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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: Boudicca on November 12, 2015, 12:00:03 PM
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That's my guy! He and Cruz are apparently the only two R candidates standing on the main stage who demand that the government uphold the law and respect our national borders. Everyone else advocates amnesty, and just try to kick sand over that stark fact with some political mumbo jumbo shuckin' and jivin'. :bird:
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/11/11/donald-trump-we-will-have-a-deportation-force/
Donald wants to round them up (humanely, duh although the libs have their panties wadded far up their ass cracks/crack asses :confused:) and ship 'em back from whence they came. Extrapolating into real life, when we receive a package in the mail we didn't order, a telemarketing call we didn't request, or an unauthorized guest in our house (BURGLAR or ROBBER), we get to get rid of it. These illegals don't deserve anything but a one way ticket out of here and should be giving thanks Donald doesn't want to incarcerate their criminal breaking and entering asses. :fuelfire:
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We don't even need to "round them up".
About 1 to 2% attrition will get rid of the problem in 20 years or less.
That is provided the floodgates are closed today.
Close the border.
Then any illegal that comes out of the shadows...off to deportation they go.
Driving without a license, gone.
Driving without insurance, gone.
Any adverse contact with law enforcement, gone.
Any irregularities at work, gone.
Any picketing, activism, protesting...while having illegal alien status, gone.
Overstayed Visa, gone.
Comb the IRS rolls for illegals receiving EIC, or any other form of welfare, gone.
Stay in the shadows, be productive, pay your taxes, and you can stay.
Illegals, they're not automatically America's problem.
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It may come down to that if, as I suspect, the ****wad litigants over at ACLU and the Southern Poverty Law Center (only impoverishment going on there is in their mental faculties) pitch a bitch fit and run crying to the liberal Supreme Court.
Ginsberg can't last forever on the bench and while I don't wish her ill, health wise, I hope she realizes there's more to what's left of her life than dying in the demonrat yoke ruling for stuff the majority has opposed and will oppose until the end of the world. Therefore, the next real president, aka Trump or Cruz, can simply continue on building that wall and deporting the illegal criminal border crossers! I am certain, as you say, that facing stark reality will light a fire under their alien asses so that they hie themselves back to whence they came.
For the life of me I have NEVER been able to reconcile the pathos in stories about poor, decent and law abiding :mental: people just coming over to the USA for economic reasons with the REALITY that these so-called impoverished paisanos pay upwards of 3 or 5 thousand dollars apiece to the coyotes. Where, pray tell, did they get the money? Wherever it originated, obviously there are resources within their own country and community they could exploit to forge a better life for themselves.
I will certainly welcome with open arms any true REFUGEE fleeing terrorism provided they are first vetted. If there's a massive relief effort sent to some starving nation, yeah, I'll be in line to donate. What I won't do is be so damn simpleminded as to conflate true desperation and need with personal greed and desire for gain. Got enough of that in DC's political class and the professional mooches they pander to, thanks very much!
Show me the starving, emaciated, bullet and disease ridden people barging rudely and uninvited into my home and I'll be the first to open the door and usher them inside. Show me today's opportunity seeking dreamer and this is my response GO AWAY YOU ARE NOT WELCOME :bigbird:
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We don't even need to "round them up".
About 1 to 2% attrition will get rid of the problem in 20 years or less.
That is provided the floodgates are closed today.
Close the border.
Then any illegal that comes out of the shadows...off to deportation they go.
Driving without a license, gone.
Driving without insurance, gone.
Any adverse contact with law enforcement, gone.
Any irregularities at work, gone.
Any picketing, activism, protesting...while having illegal alien status, gone.
Overstayed Visa, gone.
Comb the IRS rolls for illegals receiving EIC, or any other form of welfare, gone.
Stay in the shadows, be productive, pay your taxes, and you can stay.
Illegals, they're not automatically America's problem.
Self-deportation. Just make E-verify necessary to receive welfare benefits. Side bonus would be, no E-verify queries, no EBT refresh...
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Boudicca:
Show me today's opportunity seeking dreamer and this is my response GO AWAY YOU ARE NOT WELCOME.
Agree.
Who's the most forceful voice advocating borders & deportation? Trump. & its scaring the living daylights out of the republican elitists. I was going to start a new thread, but I think it fits quite well in this one.
From the liberal Washington Post: GOPe is stressing that Carson or Trump might win.
& their panic leads to desperation; they're even thinking of waking up Romney, who fell asleep after the 1st debate with O. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/time-for-gop-panic-establishment-worried-carson-and-trump-might-win/2015/11/12/38ea88a6-895b-11e5-be8b-1ae2e4f50f76_story.html)
They're mocking us conservatives. & they're fearful their gravy train will be interrupted.
Austin Barbour, lobbyist-bundler & advisor to Jeb Bush:
“If we don’t have the right [nominee], we could lose the Senate and we could face losses in the House. Those are very, very real concerns."
My take: Hey, Mr. Barbour, what did we actually accomplish by helping to turn the House & Senate to R? Pre-election promises went in the dumpster, & all we got are the R's bending over backward to push O's agenda.
George Voinovich, a moderate, career politician, now retired, is supporting John Kasich:
“We can’t afford to have somebody sitting in the White House who doesn’t have governing experience and the gravitas to move this country ahead.â€
My take: We had Bush, who gave us TARP, DHS, TSA & tried, but failed @ amnesty. He opened the can of worms to the never ending middle eastern wars, along with nation building (great for biz but not for our debt), a democracy that the many didn't want, & placing our military in harm's way with the dreadful PC handbook. Aren't you really afraid of having a President who isn't of, by & for the lobbyists? Or that the revolving door of cronyism may be abolished? Or that cheap labor wouldn't be flooding our country? Or America would be defined by borders?
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We don't even need to "round them up".
About 1 to 2% attrition will get rid of the problem in 20 years or less.
That is provided the floodgates are closed today.
Close the border.
Then any illegal that comes out of the shadows...off to deportation they go.
Driving without a license, gone.
Driving without insurance, gone.
Any adverse contact with law enforcement, gone.
Any irregularities at work, gone.
Any picketing, activism, protesting...while having illegal alien status, gone.
Overstayed Visa, gone.
Comb the IRS rolls for illegals receiving EIC, or any other form of welfare, gone.
Stay in the shadows, be productive, pay your taxes, and you can stay.
Illegals, they're not automatically America's problem.
Thats not enough. In theory it would attack the problem of illegal immigration itself, yes, but It wouldn't take the issue off the table. In addition to everything you listed, Illegal Entry needs to be made a felony, as in permanent disenfranchisement. That would effectively take the issue off the table, after a short outrage period, and the left would drop immigration like a hot potato, because they could no longer gain votes from it. The only reason the left cares is votes.
Plus it would be a good pre-emptive measure against whats happening in europe being copied on U.S. soil.
Slightly OT, but I sure hope one of ours takes any/all of theirs to task when they utter the words "broken immigration system" (those words are coming, bank on it).
Our immigration system shouldn't be gauged in effectiveness by how many want to come here, but rather how many WE want coming here.
CMD
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Someone entering our country illegally is a criminal. Bleeding hearts like Rubio, Bush, Kasich and to some extent Carson need to understand that FACT. Trump and Cruz are the only two that are strong on sending all of them back within a couple of years.
As far as I am concerned, it is inhumane to allow a law breaker to take the job of an American just because he/she wants a better life or will work for cheaper wages. These people need to be sent back now. That how immigration works in Mexico and other countries. Only liberals view this as a guilt trip or whether it is humane or not.
Our borders needs to be secure and we need to know who is a legal residents and who is not. Rinos talk out of both sides of their mouths when talking about a path to amnesty. No one in their right mind believes that the majority of the illegals will pay a fine, pay back taxes, learn our language and apply for citizenship. No, many will game the system by sending money back home, collect welfare/ food stamps and avoid paying taxes at all costs.
They all need to go like Trump says, and allow work permits to come back in legally. That is the humane way. Plus, those that have applied to come into this country legally will not be held at a disadvantage.
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Someone entering our country illegally is a criminal. Bleeding hearts like Rubio, Bush, Kasich and to some extent Carson need to understand that FACT. Trump and Cruz are the only two that are strong on sending all of them back within a couple of years.
As far as I am concerned, it is inhumane to allow a law breaker to take the job of an American just because he/she wants a better life or will work for cheaper wages. These people need to be sent back now. That how immigration works in Mexico and other countries. Only liberals view this as a guilt trip or whether it is humane or not.
Our borders needs to be secure and we need to know who is a legal residents and who is not. Rinos talk out of both sides of their mouths when talking about a path to amnesty. No one in their right mind believes that the majority of the illegals will pay a fine, pay back taxes, learn our language and apply for citizenship. No, many will game the system by sending money back home, collect welfare/ food stamps and avoid paying taxes at all costs.
They all need to go like Trump says, and allow work permits to come back in legally. That is the humane way. Plus, those that have applied to come into this country legally will not be held at a disadvantage.
Bleeding hearts, retarded Repubs and Dems alike, gets you THIS SHIT:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/11/13/french-police-report-shootout-and-explosion-in-paris/?intcmp=hpbt1
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It is very refreshing to be in a forum where it seems that all of us are on the same page:
BUILD THE DAMN WALL AND DEPORT THEM ALL.
Our next additional problem is that Barry wants to allow 85,000 refugees into this country annually. That's right annually! They will be eligible for citizenship in 5 years. He is trying his best to destroy this country.
Cruz and Trump are the only two that have any sanity in this matter.