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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on November 04, 2015, 06:44:52 PM
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Blue_Tires (42,523 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/118731272
This video of Texas cops stopping a black professor is a racial ‘Rorschach test’
On Oct. 24, University of North Texas professor Dorothy Bland was walking around her affluent Dallas suburb when she was stopped by police. Bland, who is African American, had been exercising in the street. The cops, who are both white, asked her to walk in the opposite direction so she could see traffic or, even better, to use the sidewalk. Roughly three minutes later, she was on her way.
The short and seemingly simple interaction has proved anything but, however.
Several days later, Bland, who is the dean of UNT’s journalism school, penned an op-ed in the Dallas Morning News claiming that she had been racially profiled.
“Walking while black is a crime in many jurisdictions,†she wrote. “May God have mercy on our nation.â€
Corinth Police responded by releasing the officers’ dashcam video of the interaction and claiming Bland had turned a “cordial†stop into a “racial issue.â€
“If we didn’t have the video, these officers would have serious allegations against them,†police chief Debra Walthall told Fox News. “Every white officer that stops an African American does not constitute racial profiling.â€
Now it is Bland, not the cops, who is facing pressure as nearly 2,500 people have signed a petition urging UNT to fire her.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/11/04/racism-by-whom-this-video-of-tex-cops-stopping-a-black-professor-is-a-racial-rorschach-test/?postshare=8421446660462567
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Erich Bloodaxe BSN (12,358 posts)
1. I think it's only a Rorschach test if you don't hear this part of it...
“If officers were concerned only about Bland’s safety and her impeding traffic, why did they ask her for her ID? Why did they need her birthdate? Why did they radio in a ‘name check’?†wrote Dallas Morning News writer Leona Allen, who is African American.
If all you knew was that police asked her to walk so she could see oncoming traffic, or use the sidewalks, then yeah, I can see how you'd say 'They stopped someone running on the street to ask them to do so more safely.'
But once you hear they started asking for ID, a birthdate, even 'radio'ed in', the story takes on, pardon the pun, a whole new complexion. There's nothing about being safe in how you use public property for exercise (without a vehicle) that should require you to tell police who you are.
We check every single person's identity and call for a wanted check. Every single time. Everybody.
gwheezie (1,936 posts)
3. This is "proof" of reverse racism
I got this on my Facebook as some kind of proof blacks folks are lying about the police and therefore this is why cops get killed, ya know because black folks are just sinister.
It makes me sick. I don't buy the story they stopped her for her own safety. Any excuse to put black folks in their place.
JI7 (53,471 posts)
6. they asked for her id and other info
You don't do that if you are just giving a safety warning
You do this on every stop, no matter what it is. We have no clue (usually) who you are or what you are doing. We ascertain your Identification and check to see if you are wanted. To do that we need your name and birthday. We need your ID to see if the name you give is the right one.
Standard cop procedures.
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We check every single person's identity and call for a wanted check. Every single time. Everybody.
You do this on every stop, no matter what it is. We have no clue (usually) who you are or what you are doing. We ascertain your Identification and check to see if you are wanted. To do that we need your name and birthday. We need your ID to see if the name you give is the right one.
Standard cop procedures.
They don't care. They want to act with impunity, especially when dealing with white people.
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They don't care. They want to act with impunity, especially when dealing with white people.
Blacks killed by other blacks are good, but blacks killed by cops when they are committing crimes is bad. Got it?
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We check every single person's identity and call for a wanted check. Every single time. Everybody.
You do this on every stop, no matter what it is. We have no clue (usually) who you are or what you are doing. We ascertain your Identification and check to see if you are wanted. To do that we need your name and birthday. We need your ID to see if the name you give is the right one.
Standard cop procedures.
If you are not driving or suspected of a crime in some areas you dont have to show ID. A lot of police officers don't understand that.
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Erich Bloodaxe BSN (12,358 posts)
1. I think it's only a Rorschach test if you don't hear this part of it...
“If officers were concerned only about Bland’s safety and her impeding traffic, why did they ask her for her ID? Why did they need her birthdate? Why did they radio in a ‘name check’?†wrote Dallas Morning News writer Leona Allen, who is African American.
If all you knew was that police asked her to walk so she could see oncoming traffic, or use the sidewalks, then yeah, I can see how you'd say 'They stopped someone running on the street to ask them to do so more safely.'
But once you hear they started asking for ID, a birthdate, even 'radio'ed in', the story takes on, pardon the pun, a whole new complexion. There's nothing about being safe in how you use public property for exercise (without a vehicle) that should require you to tell police who you are.
Has this character really never been stopped for having a burnt out tail light or for having accidentally not turned on one's headlights at night (due to having been in a well-lit parking lot)? I have. The police officer always checks ID, registration, proof of insurance, and for warrants. Whenever I get pulled over I always have the necessary docs ready to hand to the officer. And I am "white".
As d508 pointed out, this protects the officer (to some degree) when (s)he doesn't know who they are dealing with, and it occasionally gets wanted people off the streets. Those effects would, "understandably", be much disliked by many DU-folk.
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If you are not driving or suspected of a crime in some areas you dont have to show ID. A lot of police officers don't understand that.
Sure... sure...
Why don't you try that.
Obligation to identify, States with "stop and identify" laws
Alabama Ala. Code §15-5-30
Arizona Ari. Rev. Stat. Tit. 13, §2412 (enacted 2005) & Tit. 28, §1595
Arkansas Ark. Code Ann. [1]§ 5-71-213 - Loitering
Colorado Colo. Rev. Stat. §16-3-103(1)
Delaware Del. Code Ann., Tit. 11, §§1902, 1321(6)
Florida Fla. Stat. §901.151 (Stop and Frisk Law); §856.021(2) (loitering and prowling)
Georgia Ga. Code Ann. §16-11-36(b) (loitering)
Illinois Ill. Comp. Stat., ch. 725, §5/107-14
Indiana Indiana Code §34-28-5-3.5
Kansas Kan. Stat. Ann. §22-2402(1)
Louisiana La. Code Crim. Proc. Ann., Art. 215.1(A); La. Rev. Stat. 14:108(B)(1)(c)
Missouri (Kansas City Only) Mo. Rev. Stat. §84.710(2)
Montana Mont. Code Ann. §46-5-401
Nebraska Neb. Rev. Stat. §29-829
Nevada Nev. Rev. Stat. §171.123
New Hampshire N.H. Rev. Stat. Ann. §594:2, §644:6
New Mexico N.M. Stat. Ann. §30-22-3
New York N.Y. Crim. Proc. Law §140.50
North Dakota N.D. Cent. Code §29-29-21 (PDF)
Ohio Ohio Rev. Code §2921.29 (enacted 2006)
Rhode Island R.I. Gen. Laws §12-7-1
Utah Utah Code Ann. §77-7-15
Vermont Vt. Stat. Ann., Tit. 24, §1983
Wisconsin Wis. Stat. §968.24
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I don't buy the story they stopped her for her own safety. Any excuse to put black folks in their place.
Have you seen the dash cam footage moron?
I'm guessing the answer is no.
http://nydn.us/1NbJK4s