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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on November 02, 2015, 08:23:29 AM
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So did mine. Quiet a few of them. On both sides.
Not sure where this is going...
JDPriestly (52,898 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027308484
Members of my family volunteered for the Union Army and fought in the Civil War.
So I have a personal interest in making sure we all understand the facts about that War to the extent possible.
The Union Army consisted of 2,647,341 soldiers.
178,975 were African-American.
3,350 were Native American.
Just wanted to clarify these facts.
Many white people fought against the rebellion of the South and many of the soldiers fought because they opposed laws that permitted white slaveholders from the South to capture slaves in the North. Many of the white men who fought for the Union despised slavery so much that they were willing to die to abolish it.
Please do not forget the selfless sacrifice of any of these soldiers, regardless of race, for the Union -- our United States -- and for the abolition of slavery.
We owe them so much. And some of them were very, very young.
http://www.nps.gov/civilwar/facts.htm
... Now.... looking at this from a DUmp Monkie veiwpoint I think he is trying to lay aside white guilt? My money is on the rest of the horde to beat the shit out of him.
pinboy3niner (45,569 posts)
1. A Quincy Jones treat for you
I love this song! About black soldiers in the U.S. Army, many of whom also served in the Civil War.
:???: um... what?
pinboy3niner (45,569 posts)
6. The song for me evokes the black troops I served with in Vietnam Though in my platoon it didn't matter what color you were. We were all Olive Green.
um... the army was segregated during Vietnam. There were black soldiers in every platoon...
panader0 (12,708 posts)
16. The local army base, Fort Huachuca, is home to the Buffalo Soldier.
Damn, the picture didn't come through....
Fort Huachuca: The Traditional Home of the Buffalo Soldier
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Buffalo Soldier statue at Fort Huachuca's Main Gate.
It was dedicated in 1977 to recognize the part Huachuca
has played in African-American military history.
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Behind the Aegis (37,848 posts)
3. OK?
I am not sure why this "reminder" is needed, but AA soldiers were not allowed to serve in the Union Army until late 1862. Also AA served in the Confederate Army...so... While some certainly were abolitionists in the Union Army, I would assert most were about "preserving the Union" much like their Commander-in-Chief, Lincoln. There were also Southerners who were abolitionists.
I don't understand the need for this "history" lesson.
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Star Member Behind the Aegis (37,848 posts)
8. OK.
While not being a PoC, [then shut the **** up] I have to say that isn't how I read this post. I certainly agree it is important to work together to achieve equality, another component is to remember those who are at the receiving end of the oppression are generally, almost always, more knowledgeable about what it is like to be oppressed and don't need reminders how those who are from the group which did/does the oppressing "did good" on this occasion or that one. If we want to move forward, we have to be willing to listen to those who have traditionally been left behind.
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um... the army was segregated during Vietnam. There were black soldiers in every platoon...
Yeah, I think you meant "Integrated" there. Segregation ended under Truman, though it took a few years of assignment cycles for things to level out.
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Yeah, I think you meant "Integrated" there. Segregation ended under Truman, though it took a few years of assignment cycles for things to level out.
Yup. It was early...
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Yup. It was early...
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When did the rate steward or mess man cease to exist? Anyone remember?
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When did the rate steward or mess man cease to exist? Anyone remember?
You can have the messman, I'll take these (see if you can find the burger)
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Maybe I'm expecting too much from DUmmies, but it's as if most of these morons have not yet needed to defend their own lives.
It should not be fun, but it's got to be done.
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So what, some freed slaves fought for the union army? Some also fought for the south.
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You can have the messman, I'll take these (see if you can find the burger)
There's a burger in that pic?????
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There's a burger in that pic?????
So I've been told... :rotf: