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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on October 28, 2015, 11:21:51 AM
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Oh my.
Always full of resolution to do better, the primitives.
Aerows (34,522 posts) Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:28 PM
I'll use my number to discuss quitting smoking to rant about the media reaction to e-cigarettes. I quit smoking because of them. Yes, I like a puff off of an e-cigarette every now and then, but they aren't going to kill me as fast as I was dying to cigarettes.
I run now because my lungs function, I lift weights because I'm not sluggish due to lack of oxygen, and I smell infinitely better than a day old ashtray.
I had to explain an e-cigarette to my 82 year old father who was afraid I was in a cult and doing drugs how they work.
Lay the hell off, everybody, and let people freaking quit smoking. I quit drinking coffee two and a half years ago, because nothing compares to that experience. I quit doing things that I associate with smoking - yeah I'm different, I don't want to start back up.
I have dreams about the shit. I wake up relieved, in a cold sweat, that I haven't smoked.
I have a little pack of cigarettes shrine that I look at - it's 6 cigarettes, in a sealed pack. They are there if I crack. But I absolutely refuse to crack.
I have decided not to kill myself anymore by smoking. I run, work out, and I am healthier than I have been in years.
Can you quit making e-cigarettes out to be the greatest sin known to mankind?
You won't make me smoke again. I can promise you that.
<<<learned a long time ago to never say "never."
<<<finds that "never" happens when one doesn't even mention it.
TreasonousBastard (26,190 posts) Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:33 PM
1. I hear ya! I quit before e-cigs, but it was a nightmare and...
if they were around I would have jumped on them.
The hysterical reaction against them is idiotic.
Aerows (34,522 posts) Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:57 PM
3. It truly is
Half of my family thought I'm on bath salts or something the way the news talks about it.
No, I just quit smoking in the easiest way I could since I know it was going to kill me and have been trying to get off of the sob-ing cigarettes for years.
Aerows (34,522 posts) Tue Oct 27, 2015, 07:12 PM
5. Quitting smoking is
probably the assholeish, bitchiest, most soul-dredging horrible thing I've ever done.
It has been awful. I would have crawled though a wall for a smoke.
I don't need one now.
CaliforniaPeggy (117,132 posts) Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:37 PM
2. A big, fat K&R!
You rock, my dear Aerows!
<<<wonders if CaliforniaPeggy, who'd be ideal as a singer in a Russian all-women's "German language and culture" band, would agree then that franksolich rocks too.
https://youtu.be/dzqJmPGoIW0
^^^only two and a half minutes, but well worth the listen; there's even an ancient woman there who bears a remarkable similarity with CaliforniaPeggy. But the violinist between 1:45 and 1:50 is awesome, powerfully awesome, playing so good that a deaf person can "hear" every note.
They're all and each very good, these women singers.
Aerows (34,522 posts) Tue Oct 27, 2015, 07:02 PM
4. I've made it about 8 months
I have no intention of starting smoking again. I have wanted to quit for years. I've tried everything.
Quit drinking coffee. Failed. (didn't start drinking coffee again, because it would likely make me fail). Running. My lungs died. Weights, my lungs died.
These are things that I like to do, but couldn't.
Tried an e-cigarette as my last hope.
And I will be *damned to hell* if I smoke another cigarette. I am no longer Marlboro's customer.
That was a major breakthrough for me, and here is sit, 8 months later.
Tobin S. (8,038 posts) Tue Oct 27, 2015, 08:23 PM
7. I've been an ex-smoker for over three years now.
I quit cold turkey and it was one of the hardest things I've ever done. I'm not opposed to e-cigs, or the patch, or the gum. I tried all of them in the past and I just didn't like them. The main thing is that you are finished with tobacco. I don't care what tools people use to accomplish that. Some people swear by nicotine replacement products. The main thing is to be done with tobacco.
Congratulations on what you have accomplished.
Aerows (34,522 posts) Tue Oct 27, 2015, 08:40 PM
8. Thank you
And I am done with smoking. Like you, I finally "got there".
ms liberty (4,065 posts) Tue Oct 27, 2015, 09:56 PM
9. Six months on 10/11 for me...
I had tried everything, including cold turkey, more than once. Vaping has made it doable.
Next week, six months for franksolich, but am hardly expecting kudos from CaliforniaPeggy.
Aerows (34,522 posts) Tue Oct 27, 2015, 10:14 PM
10. I'd rather be shot
than smoke again. I am so glad to be rid of that demon, that if vaping is my demon, I'm happy with it.
I love exercise, and I didn't realize how limited I was when I was smoking.
<<<used no substitutes, no artificial means, no "tricks," to quit a 37-year-old 2-3-packages a day cigarette habit; stopping smoking just happened naturally.
A sudden unexpected massive heart attack can make a lot of things happen; the primitives on Skins's island should consider themselves lucky that they weren't reading an obituary of franksolich early last May.
<<<can honestly say has not even had a twinge of an urge; it's almost as if cigarettes had never even been a part of this life.
bettyellen (28,930 posts) Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:14 PM
11. Good for you!! I made 9 weeks last Sunday and I am thrilled.......
and also mainlining the vapor. If that's what it takes, so be it!
I got my EgoOne and Dr Crimmy on speed dial. We can play poker in my apartment without making half the players sick this winter.
^^^a prominent Andyite during the scamdal nearly eleven years ago.
Star Member Aerows (34,522 posts) Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:52 PM
12. I DO NOT GIVE A F*CK
what it takes anybody to get off of the coffin nails.
There is absolutely no reason to stay on them, and every reason to BE off of them.
And you guys need to deal me in at some point
bettyellen (28,930 posts) Wed Oct 28, 2015, 12:05 AM
13. I've seen people laugh or balk and I do not care. It's tasty and I am getting the nicotine that I
want. That is all that matters. I was smoking too much out of stress, I had to stop. Good for you!
Consider yourself dealt in when you make it up to NYish next time.
<<<the same here; smoked because of unrelenting stress; it's very tense and stressful, being a deaf person in a hearing society.
But also the bettyellen primitive has to acknowledge that she herself was to blame for some of franksolich's stress eleven years ago, for which she should feel ashamed. She was a real bitch to handle gracefully.
Aerows (34,522 posts) Wed Oct 28, 2015, 12:12 AM
14. I'm neither Brooklyn, nor Queens
I'm just a Mississippi river sort.
I am just like you - I was too stressed, and my body did not need to be stressed on top of it all.
I feel better than I have in years! I put the cigarettes down and if anyone thinks they can shame me for taking a puff on an ecigarette?
Laughable.
Star Member bettyellen (28,930 posts) Wed Oct 28, 2015, 12:22 AM
15. People fear new fangled shit. I'm sure I was a defensive smoker too, ha ha. Now I grabbed some
vaporizer "condoms" from the vape store and offer people sterile hits off it! I'm mixing flavors and swapping them. I'm going to set up one for other people to use when I have them over to decorate the tree in December. So they don't have to go downstairs to smoke. I'm all in. Can't wait for it to be a whole year, so I stop counting the weeks.
<<<after the heart attack, friends in the music business, seeking to ease my melancholy and misery, with the help of a professional audiologist, set up some sort of Rube Goldberg system so I could "hear" music, generally via bone conduction of sound.
It was like injecting franksolich with heroin.
It's been like laboring a mountain to bring forth a mouse, and gives one violent headaches, but it's been the best this deaf person has ever "heard."
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Aerows (34,522 posts) Tue Oct 27, 2015, 07:12 PM
5. Quitting smoking is
probably the assholeish, bitchiest, most soul-dredging horrible thing I've ever done.
It has been awful. I would have crawled though a wall for a smoke.
I don't need one now.
Maybe that raccoon that bit you does. :whistling:
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And then there are what may be the unintended consequences of quitting with E-cigs...
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Evan Spahlinger, 21, is in a medically induced coma at a Miami hospital after he was badly burned when his e-cigarette blew up in his mouth.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/florida-man-coma-e-cig-explodes-face-family-article-1.2413702
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Though rare, the explosion wasn't the first of its kind for the battery-powered device.
Earlier this month a California woman was awarded nearly $2 million after she was badly burned by an exploding e-cigarette in 2013.
In 2014, a 65-year-old British grandmother was left fighting for her life after her oxygen supply blew up as she puffed on an e-cig. That same month, video captured an e-cig exploding in an English pub and nearly igniting a barmaid.
http://www.wsvn.com/story/30363771/e-cigarette-explodes-in-naples-mans-face
WSVN
Spahlinger's sister said she found him lying on the ground, with his face and upper chest covered in soot. He was apparently puffing on this e-cig when it exploded.
On Monday, the Department of Transportation banned the battery-powered portable devices from all airline passengers' checked luggage because of past incidents where they caught fire during transpot
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