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Title: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: Boudicca on October 22, 2015, 09:16:50 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/22/high-stakes-for-clinton-in-benghazi-committee-appearance/?intcmp=hppop

In advance of her testimony, the Clinton campaign released a summary that said she is appearing before the committee to honor the memory of the four Americans killed in Benghazi. The summary said Clinton will testify that Benghazi was a tragedy that must be learned from but that America must continue to lead in a dangerous world.

Further, the statement said this approach to diplomacy "involves an element of risk-taking that can never be eliminated outright."

The statement does not mention evidence that under her leadership, the State Department ignored requests for additional security from then-Ambassador Chris Stevens, killed in the attack along with three other Americans. This, as well as concerns that she helped push a faulty narrative that the attack grew out of protests over an anti-Islam Internet video, are sure to surface Thursday.



I certainly have confidence that Trey Gowdy will do everything in his power today to bring closure, finally, to the victims' families.  I'm every bit as confident that HRC and her Democrat minions on the committee will do all in their power to obfuscate, up to and including perjury in her case, to attempt to wiggle out from under the case against her. :fuelfire:
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: txradioguy on October 22, 2015, 09:18:42 AM
What is the over/under on her saying "what difference does it make" or blaming the whole thing on the VWRC?
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: DLR Pyro on October 22, 2015, 09:25:05 AM
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the Clinton campaign released a summary that said she is appearing before the committee to honor the memory of the four Americans killed in Benghazi.

so her appearance has nothing to do with the fact that she was subpoenaed to appear and is legally required to appear, but she is appearing to "honor the memory" of the people she left out twisting in the wind.

That statement shows how she feels she is above the law and not subject to it.
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: Boudicca on October 22, 2015, 09:26:23 AM
What is the over/under on her saying "what difference does it make" or blaming the whole thing on the VWRC?

They just began their opening statements; Trey's was brilliant while Elijah Cummings is being the white woman's whore, you know, what you'd expect from a Dimmie.

From the news article I linked to earlier, this is all the liar has stated thus far re the four dead heroes:

In advance of her testimony, the Clinton campaign released a summary that said she is appearing before the committee to honor the memory of the four Americans killed in Benghazi. The summary said Clinton will testify that Benghazi was a tragedy that must be learned from but that America must continue to lead in a dangerous world.

Further, the statement said this approach to diplomacy "involves an element of risk-taking that can never be eliminated outright."

The statement does not mention evidence that under her leadership, the State Department ignored requests for additional security from then-Ambassador Chris Stevens, killed in the attack along with three other Americans. This, as well as concerns that she helped push a faulty narrative that the attack grew out of protests over an anti-Islam Internet video, are sure to surface Thursday.

Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: txradioguy on October 22, 2015, 09:38:23 AM
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In advance of her testimony, the Clinton campaign released a summary that said she is appearing before the committee to honor the memory of the four Americans killed in Benghazi. The summary said Clinton will testify that Benghazi was a tragedy that must be learned from but that America must continue to lead in a dangerous world.

She's not honoring them in any way shape or form.

This arrogant Libtard bitch still to this day doesn't hink she did anything wrong or had anything to do with what happened in Benghazi.

Just look at her answer about Libya during the debate.  She still insists it was a great use of "smart power".

The blood of four dead Americans is on her hands as well as a couple of others and she quite frankly doesn't care.
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: Boudicca on October 22, 2015, 09:50:17 AM
Trey just told her they didn't cut off her opening remarks, but that they WOULD get to ALL the questions today. :cheersmate:  That's my guy.  I'm glad I am DVRing this because I'm going to have to miss part of this right now and I do want to watch justice being done for those four men. 
The damn twat is stonewalling on Question #1 already and here already came her first CACKLE.  History will damn that woman because she has absolutely no shame.  Go over to the fox news article and read some of the comments.  I'm not the only HRC hater out there. :rofl:
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: txradioguy on October 22, 2015, 09:56:14 AM
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and here already came her first CACKLE. 

She always does that when she's nervous and about to lie about something.  It's a device she uses.

You'll always hear the mating call of the Arkansas Broadbeam when Her Thighness gets cornered.
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: The Stranger on October 22, 2015, 10:35:18 AM
I just cut my ears off. :naughty:
BORING and nothing has been said yet just a CAMPAIGN STOP for her!
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: The Stranger on October 22, 2015, 10:42:56 AM
BOY her staff sure does make a lot of stuff up!
Now she don't even know them and they're not even on the staff.
BUT they emailed about her or to her.
This is a waste of time she will just make up lie after lie as she is doing.
I have no recollection.  :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: Belle on October 22, 2015, 11:09:11 AM
Savage said yesterday, that even if she were indicted & thrown in jail, she'd still win the nomination!

 txradioguy: 
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She always does that when she's nervous and about to lie about something...

I always thought of lies to Hillary are as natural to her as breathing air.
 
Boudicca: 
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...while Elijah Cummings is being the white woman's whore, you know, what you'd expect from a Dimmie.

True, & oh, so funny!

Prediction:  If O says nothing will come out of these hearings, nothing will.  & since his reputation in entwined with hers, well, sit back & enjoy the show.  After all, we're funding it.

The saddest, most tragic part of all of this:  4 Americans died, & in my opinion, it could have been prevented. 
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: Boudicca on October 22, 2015, 12:00:19 PM
Well, at this point I've come back and now can saw I can't watch any longer.  That creature sitting there feels no shame.  She is nothing more or less than a psychopathic, soulless borg.  When faced with her own words, in the emails this committee has managed to collect after 7 other investigations were met with total stonewalling tactics by her and her demons, those likewise soulless creatures inhabiting seats with the Democrat imprimatur, this **** (and yes, it is more than deserved in this particular case and I make no apologies for deploying it) lies and lies and lies some more.  I imagine if I were to watch the Nuremberg trial testimony of evil men, I could easily place her amongst them, equally as morally devoid and as pitiless in her view of those she considers lesser beings (in her case the American people).
She is not worth the shit I scraped off the bottom of my shoes when I accidentally stepped into a doggie pile out back, nothing she says or does makes a tinker's damn's worth of difference.  She has blood dripping from her hands like Lady MacBeth, but unlike the lady, she doesn't even possess enough conscience of wrongdoing to compulsively wash the blood from her hands.  I cannot stand listening to her Dimmie lackey foot soldiers pontificate on how wronged she's been while she plays the victim card.
I thought Obama was evil; today I have looked upon it and it is a bland granny.  **** her and all of her supporters.  YOU ARE THE REASON EVIL THRIVES.
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: Mary Ann on October 22, 2015, 12:08:44 PM
Trey Gowdy is ripping the old crone a new one!!!!! She's going to blow at any minute!
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: The Stranger on October 22, 2015, 12:10:34 PM
Well, at this point I've come back and now can saw I can't watch any longer.  That creature sitting there feels no shame.  She is nothing more or less than a psychopathic, soulless borg.  When faced with her own words, in the emails this committee has managed to collect after 7 other investigations were met with total stonewalling tactics by her and her demons, those likewise soulless creatures inhabiting seats with the Democrat imprimatur, this **** (and yes, it is more than deserved in this particular case and I make no apologies for deploying it) lies and lies and lies some more.  I imagine if I were to watch the Nuremberg trial testimony of evil men, I could easily place her amongst them, equally as morally devoid and as pitiless in her view of those she considers lesser beings (in her case the American people).
She is not worth the shit I scraped off the bottom of my shoes when I accidentally stepped into a doggie pile out back, nothing she says or does makes a tinker's damn's worth of difference.  She has blood dripping from her hands like Lady MacBeth, but unlike the lady, she doesn't even possess enough conscience of wrongdoing to compulsively wash the blood from her hands.  I cannot stand listening to her Dimmie lackey foot soldiers pontificate on how wronged she's been while she plays the victim card.
I thought Obama was evil; today I have looked upon it and it is a bland granny.  **** her and all of her supporters.  YOU ARE THE REASON EVIL THRIVES.
:hi5:
Wonder why we look like buffoons to the rest of the world. Not one question has been answered yet!
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: Linda on October 22, 2015, 12:39:37 PM
All of the (D)'s on the committee are making statements saying this is a witch hunt against Hillary and all these allegations have been refuted over and over again. And Hillary just sits there with this shit eating grin and smirk on her face when they the (D)'s talk.

Another reason why I dislike (D)'s ... they bullshit, avoid and give non answers to everything that comes up.
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 22, 2015, 01:33:30 PM
All of the (D)'s on the committee are making statements saying this is a witch hunt against Hillary and all these allegations have been refuted over and over again. And Hillary just sits there with this shit eating grin and smirk on her face when they the (D)'s talk.

Another reason why I dislike (D)'s ... they bullshit, avoid and give non answers to everything that comes up.
It is a witch hunt...to expose Hillary as the witch she is.
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: txradioguy on October 22, 2015, 01:33:57 PM
All of the (D)'s on the committee are making statements saying this is a witch hunt against Hillary and all these allegations have been refuted over and over again. And Hillary just sits there with this shit eating grin and smirk on her face when they the (D)'s talk.

Another reason why I dislike (D)'s ... they bullshit, avoid and give non answers to everything that comes up.

Perfect example of the difference between Republicans right now and the Dems.  Dems circle the wagons around their own.
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: The Stranger on October 23, 2015, 06:35:58 AM
All of the (D)'s on the committee are making statements saying this is a witch hunt against Hillary and all these allegations have been refuted over and over again. And Hillary just sits there with this shit eating grin and smirk on her face when they the (D)'s talk.

Another reason why I dislike (D)'s ... they bullshit, avoid and give non answers to everything that comes up.
This is in part because the RINO's allow it. They should endlessly ask a question if it takes 10 minutes or ten hours until they either get an answer or Clintoon blows a gasket. But they cave every time!
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: SVPete on October 23, 2015, 07:45:02 AM
The Ds did this, successfully, with WJC and ever since. Until the Rs jam it down their throats and out the other end the Ds will keep using the tactic.
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: Boudicca on October 23, 2015, 11:26:40 AM
The morning after news drivel is that she won.  Before I had to stop watching, I was shaking so hard with anger that I was afraid I'd have a heart attack.
Like Custer, Hitlary fought the enemy behind carcasses of the fallen.  Unlike Custer, she didn't use dead horses, she hunkered down behind the bodies of four heroes savagely slain by the same kind of animals she and Obama's Libyan strategyfatal error in judgement enabled.  I thought she couldn't sink any lower but then I heard the bloody cow actually had the nerve to state that no one had lost as much sleep over the events of September 11, 2012, than she had.  I can only cringe in horrified sympathy for the victims' loved ones who were forced to sit there listening to her LIE and her Dim minded, morally bankrupt asshole cronies on the panel spend their allotted time, not to question her about her role in the deaths, but to offer supportive platitudes and attempt to scold the Republicans on the panel.
I hope they all burn in Hell for their sins.  They certainly don't seem to mind that right now the victims' families are living in hell right here on Earth.  They could at least be honest enough to spare all of us the spectacle of their crocodile tears and false sympathy for the families.
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: Belle on October 24, 2015, 04:52:37 PM
It's a scary thought to think she could be the next President. 
Yikes, did she blame Ambassador Steven's for his own death?

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But Mrs. Clinton said the lack of better security in Benghazi at the time of the attack was the responsibility of Stevens himself and the security professionals she trusted to advise her, and who rejected some of the ambassador’s requests.

“Chris Stevens had an opportunity to reach me directly any time he thought there was something of importance,” the former secretary said.

"...more than 600 security requests related to Libya and Benghazi that came in in 2012 before the Sept. 11, 2012 terrorist attack none ever reached her desk." (http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/melanie-hunter/more-600-benghazi-security-requests-never-reached-clintons-desk-reports)

All of Blumenthal's 150 emails did reach her desk.

In my cynical opinion, this ended up being a showcase for Hillary to look Presidential under pressure.  The MSM did the spin on this multiple times. 

& after the hearing in which she accepted no responsibility for the 4 slain Americans, it it was party time @ her house where "we sat around eating Indian food, and drinking wine and beer." (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3352330/posts?page=64)

Boudicca:
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I thought she couldn't sink any lower but then I heard the bloody cow actually had the nerve to state that no one had lost as much sleep over the events of September 11, 2012, than she had.  I can only cringe in horrified sympathy for the victims' loved ones who were forced to sit there listening to her LIE and her Dim minded, morally bankrupt asshole cronies on the panel spend their allotted time, not to question her about her role in the deaths, but to offer supportive platitudes and attempt to scold the Republicans on the panel.

Yes, we know her lies & how well she's protected.  & the families of these unforgotten heros also know. (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/24/families-benghazi-victims-say-clinton-dishonest/)

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/22/clinton-benghazi-hearing-gowdy-dead-deserve-truth/
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: Lacarnut on October 25, 2015, 12:04:10 AM
Hitlery may have won the hearing debacle but she will lose the war come election time. For most independent thinking voters, this will remind them of the numerous lies she told such as she was not in the loop, she never heard about the distress signals, she knew nothing about security, not remembering thousand of emails that were government related, and what difference does it make that 4 Americans are dead.

She is a liar and a crook for taking $190,000 worth of china and silverware when they left office. Looks like that scum bag, convicted criminal will campaign for her. I hope that we  have a candidate that  will remind folks of that because this is going to be a down and dirty race. Plus, I have not mentioned the fact the M.E. is in a hell of a mess because of her and Obummer's leadership.
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: libertybele on October 25, 2015, 06:41:50 AM
Hitlery may have won the hearing debacle but she will lose the war come election time. For most independent thinking voters, this will remind them of the numerous lies she told such as she was not in the loop, she never heard about the distress signals, she knew nothing about security, not remembering thousand of emails that were government related, and what difference does it make that 4 Americans are dead.

She is a liar and a crook for taking $190,000 worth of china and silverware when they left office. Looks like that scum bag, convicted criminal will campaign for her. I hope that we  have a candidate that  will remind folks of that because this is going to be a down and dirty race. Plus, I have not mentioned the fact the M.E. is in a hell of a mess because of her and Obummer's leadership.

While I agree with you, I am not so sure that she will lose the war come election time. The liberal leftist midget mentality at the end of the day, still believes that the GOP was on a witch hunt and she is innocent when it comes to Benghazi.  Hillary can do no wrong; the reality of the situation is she is all the DEMS have other than Sanders. They will vote for her.  The other reality is and perhaps her "trump" card is who she selects as her running mate.  If she picks Warren the GOP will be in an uphill battle all the way.  I have no doubt.  Warren is the progressive's dream.  You would have Hillary who will appeal to the more moderate long time DEMS and you will have Warren who will appeal to the young DEMS and all those "politically correct" and the far left.  Secondly, they would be the first female president and vice president.  That in itself will be a huge draw (again we are talking liberal mentality). Biden is not running.  O'Malley dropped out of the race; if he runs 3rd party as he hinted, it would help the GOP. So Hillary is it.

Not trying to be negative here, but the other reality is several voting districts in key states such as Florida have been mandated to redraw their districts which heavily favors DEMS.  Amnesty via executive order as far as I know is still on the table -- if they grant voting rights -- the GOP is done.

Last but not least.  We are talking about trying to stop the Clinton dynasty which not only includes a former popular president but the Clinton Global Initiative Foundation which is  deeply connected with the U.N. as well as the Middle East.
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: Boudicca on October 25, 2015, 05:22:48 PM
While I agree with you, I am not so sure that she will lose the war come election time. The liberal leftist midget mentality at the end of the day, still believes that the GOP was on a witch hunt and she is innocent when it comes to Benghazi.  Hillary can do no wrong; the reality of the situation is she is all the DEMS have other than Sanders. They will vote for her.  The other reality is and perhaps her "trump" card is who she selects as her running mate.  If she picks Warren the GOP will be in an uphill battle all the way.  I have no doubt.  Warren is the progressive's dream.  You would have Hillary who will appeal to the more moderate long time DEMS and you will have Warren who will appeal to the young DEMS and all those "politically correct" and the far left.  Secondly, they would be the first female president and vice president.  That in itself will be a huge draw (again we are talking liberal mentality). Biden is not running.  O'Malley dropped out of the race; if he runs 3rd party as he hinted, it would help the GOP. So Hillary is it.

Not trying to be negative here, but the other reality is several voting districts in key states such as Florida have been mandated to redraw their districts which heavily favors DEMS.  Amnesty via executive order as far as I know is still on the table -- if they grant voting rights -- the GOP is done.

Last but not least.  We are talking about trying to stop the Clinton dynasty which not only includes a former popular president but the Clinton Global Initiative Foundation which is  deeply connected with the U.N. as well as the Middle East.

I have, very, very reluctantly, concluded that in order to stop the creature that is Hitlery, it will take every opposition vote we can muster against her.  She will have arrayed a consortium of illegal criminals with their felonious documents, the racial hucksters and deluded groupies, her vast network of bought and paid for union and business interests and their ignorant followers and above all, the myriad gaggle of faux outraged Ta'Shaye's, Benito's, and Muhamed's out there, plus all their moronic sympathizers like the inmates at Skimmer's Sanctuary for Sorta People with Major Brain Damage.
It absolutely GALLS me to admit this, but better Jeb :sad1: or Rubio, Mr. Gang of Eight Amnesty Advocates, than the likes of Hitlery or the oh so romantic Bernie.  Seriously, what better honeymoon could a gal ever dream of than one spent in the old Soviet Union?  Wonder if Bernie was as epic a FAIL on the big night as the Communist government proved over the decades?
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: Belle on October 25, 2015, 11:02:57 PM
Boudicca: 
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...it will take every opposition vote we can muster against her. 

I admire your optimism.  I kind of lost mine.  The liberals have the MSM, illegals, refugees, dead people, double people, public unions, Scytl (http://novobrief.com/scytl-pere-valles-interview/) &  what libertybele reminded us:
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...the other reality is several voting districts in key states such as Florida have been mandated to redraw their districts which heavily favors DEMS.

Here's an article titled "Do Hillary's Lies Matter?"

It starts out with the author's thoughts on a campaign video:

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it would be Hillary before the caskets of the four Americans slaughtered in Benghazi blaming an obscure video and its maker for the incident; Hillary telling the father of one of the deceased, Ty Woods, that the video maker would be arrested (“we are going to have the film maker arrested who was responsible for the death of your son"), and her testimony before the committee that she never blamed it on the video. The ad would take just a couple of minutes. .  Message at end -- are you ready for a president who lies over the bodies of dead American patriots? 


http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/10/do_hillarys_lies_matter.html
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: Lacarnut on October 25, 2015, 11:22:28 PM
Boudicca: 
I admire your optimism.  I kind of lost mine.  The liberals have the MSM, illegals, refugees, dead people, double people, public unions, Scytl (http://novobrief.com/scytl-pere-valles-interview/) &  what libertybele reminded us:
Here's an article titled "Do Hillary's Lies Matter?"

It starts out with the author's thoughts on a campaign video:
 

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/10/do_hillarys_lies_matter.html

I doubt that any of the Repub. candidates with the exception of Trump and Cruz would air a video like that. Although I like Carson, he is in the goody, goody, two shoes mole of Mitt, who wimped out) and the rest of the Repub. candidates running in 06. IMO, we need a bare knuckles fighter who will sling as much mud as Clinton and the Demos do. 
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: txradioguy on October 26, 2015, 03:01:15 AM
I have, very, very reluctantly, concluded that in order to stop the creature that is Hitlery, it will take every opposition vote we can muster against her.  She will have arrayed a consortium of illegal criminals with their felonious documents, the racial hucksters and deluded groupies, her vast network of bought and paid for union and business interests and their ignorant followers and above all, the myriad gaggle of faux outraged Ta'Shaye's, Benito's, and Muhamed's out there, plus all their moronic sympathizers like the inmates at Skimmer's Sanctuary for Sorta People with Major Brain Damage.
It absolutely GALLS me to admit this, but better Jeb :sad1: or Rubio, Mr. Gang of Eight Amnesty Advocates, than the likes of Hitlery or the oh so romantic Bernie.  Seriously, what better honeymoon could a gal ever dream of than one spent in the old Soviet Union?  Wonder if Bernie was as epic a FAIL on the big night as the Communist government proved over the decades?

The problem is....you'll have people like you and I that will hold our nose for the betterment of the country...(yes even Jeb is better than Hillary)...but there will be that group of people...you know them...the 1 issue crowd the "either I get my candidate of I'm not voting!" tantrum throwers that will stay home and not support the GOP ticket no matter what it means for the country.

They are the same people that handed Obama a second term inoffice and could quite possibly...give Hillary her time in office.

Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: Lacarnut on October 26, 2015, 04:25:58 AM
The problem is....you'll have people like you and I that will hold our nose for the betterment of the country...(yes even Jeb is better than Hillary)...but there will be that group of people...you know them...the 1 issue crowd the "either I get my candidate of I'm not voting!" tantrum throwers that will stay home and not support the GOP ticket no matter what it means for the country.

They are the same people that handed Obama a second term inoffice and could quite possibly...give Hillary her time in office.

I hope they have learned their lesson but I doubt it. Any of the Repubs running for the President is better by miles than Hillary. She wants amnesty. If that happens, the Democratic party will win every presidential election. It will not even be close. They will do for the immigrants what they  have already done to blacks. Free food, housing, education, health care, etc. will eventually bankrupt this country. Like most voters, they will vote  with their pocketbooks.
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: txradioguy on October 26, 2015, 05:23:11 AM
I hope they have learned their lesson but I doubt it. Any of the Repubs running for the President is better by miles than Hillary. She wants amnesty. If that happens, the Democratic party will win every presidential election. It will not even be close. They will do for the immigrants what they  have already done to blacks. Free food, housing, education, health care, etc. will eventually bankrupt this country. Like most voters, they will vote  with their pocketbooks.

Just by having the illegals in any given state automatically skews the Electoral College votes.  So the illegals don't even have to vote to tilt the election towards the Dems.

If we don't get a Republican into office this time...we may not do it again in my lifetime.
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: Belle on October 26, 2015, 03:11:26 PM
Lacarnut: 
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I doubt that any of the Repub. candidates with the exception of Trump and Cruz would air a video like that. Although I like Carson, he is in the goody, goody, two shoes mole of Mitt, who wimped out) and the rest of the Repub. candidates running in 06. IMO, we need a bare knuckles fighter who will sling as much mud as Clinton and the Demos do.

Agree. 
Some of Hotair's writers have posted supportive articles for GOPe candidates.  &, in my opinion, are obviously against Trump & Cruz.  This is one of several posts about Trump's decline in Iowa. (http://hotair.com/archives/2015/10/26/monmouth-poll-of-iowa-carson-32-trump-18-cruz-10-rubio-10/)  My thoughts on this are that if his slide spreads to other states, then that would be significant.  In the past they chose Huckabee & Santorum.

Carson's small government principles may come into question:

- "Ben Carson supports citizenship for illegal aliens" (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/09/ben_carson_supports_citizenship_for_illegal_aliens.html)

- "The first thing we need to do is get rid of for profit insurance companies". (http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2013/03/ben_carsons_views_on_health_care_problematic.html)

Unless my mind is closed, I don't see much difference between the liberal R neocon candidates vs. Hillary.  Both are for big government, big spending programs, amnesty, continuing wars to maintain the military-industrial complex, legislate according to the donor class, & regardless of what they say, I believe both support socialized medicine.   Let's not forget the R's in the House fully funded Obamacare & O's executive amnesty.
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: Lacarnut on October 26, 2015, 06:26:45 PM
Lacarnut: 
Agree. 
Some of Hotair's writers have posted supportive articles for GOPe candidates.  &, in my opinion, are obviously against Trump & Cruz.  This is one of several posts about Trump's decline in Iowa. (http://hotair.com/archives/2015/10/26/monmouth-poll-of-iowa-carson-32-trump-18-cruz-10-rubio-10/)  My thoughts on this are that if his slide spreads to other states, then that would be significant.  In the past they chose Huckabee & Santorum.

Carson's small government principles may come into question:

- "Ben Carson supports citizenship for illegal aliens" (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/09/ben_carson_supports_citizenship_for_illegal_aliens.html)

- "The first thing we need to do is get rid of for profit insurance companies". (http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2013/03/ben_carsons_views_on_health_care_problematic.html)

Unless my mind is closed, I don't see much difference between the liberal R neocon candidates vs. Hillary.  Both are for big government, big spending programs, amnesty, continuing wars to maintain the military-industrial complex, legislate according to the donor class, & regardless of what they say, I believe both support socialized medicine.   Let's not forget the R's in the House fully funded Obamacare & O's executive amnesty.

Trump should not concern himself if he comes in second in Iowa or NH. Trump will thrash Carson in the South. However, the media, RINO's, liberals and Trump haters will make a big deal out of it.
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: thundley4 on October 26, 2015, 06:42:09 PM
Trump should not concern himself if he comes in second in Iowa or NH. Trump will thrash Carson in the South. However, the media, RINO's, liberals and Trump haters will make a big deal out of it.

That almost sounds like something the DUmmies would say based on their idea that the south is racist.
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: Lacarnut on October 27, 2015, 12:39:29 AM
That almost sounds like something the DUmmies would say based on their idea that the south is racist.

Nope. IMO, Obama has set back blacks 50 years. I feel that this has placed Carson at an unjustified disadvantage in the South and throughout the country.

If Carson is the nominee, I will gladly support and vote for him. However, my first two choices are Trump and Cruz.
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: txradioguy on October 27, 2015, 03:16:47 AM
Nope. IMO, Obama has set back blacks 50 years. I feel that this has placed Carson at an unjustified disadvantage in the South and throughout the country.

He's got a self fulfilling prophecy going on where race is concerned.  People who might not normally have any issue with a person's skin color...are seriously looking at it now because they've spent the last 7 years being called racists and bigots because of the state they live in and the fact they either own a gun or have no problem with the Confederate Flag.

Hell according to our CINC...racism is in our DNA...that right there is enough to make a lot of people bring race into their voting decision when they otherwise wouldn't have.

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If Carson is the nominee, I will gladly support and vote for him. However, my first two choices are Trump and Cruz.

I reverse those two...Cruz then Trump.
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: Lacarnut on October 27, 2015, 05:50:15 AM
He's got a self fulfilling prophecy going on where race is concerned.  People who might not normally have any issue with a person's skin color...are seriously looking at it now because they've spent the last 7 years being called racists and bigots because of the state they live in and the fact they either own a gun or have no problem with the Confederate Flag.


Additionally, Trump is leading in every poll in S.C., VA and beating Bush and Rubio combined in FL. Plus, the white guilt mentality with some voters is dead.   

Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: thundley4 on October 27, 2015, 08:48:54 AM
Nope. IMO, Obama has set back blacks 50 years. I feel that this has placed Carson at an unjustified disadvantage in the South and throughout the country.

If Carson is the nominee, I will gladly support and vote for him. However, my first two choices are Trump and Cruz.

True. I've said before that Democrats electing Obama has ensured that no black will be elected president, again for decades.
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: dutch508 on October 27, 2015, 09:47:52 AM
True. I've said before that Democrats electing Obama has ensured that no black will be elected president, again for decades.

I like Carson. I really do. BUT- he seems almost to weak and quiet to confront the troubles in the world we are going to have to face in the next 8 years. I hate to say it but I am thinking Trump might be the only one who would actually do something instead of all the rest of the possible [R]s who would just wring their hands and whine about it.
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: Boudicca on October 27, 2015, 10:35:44 AM
FOX morning news was really shilling the fact that Carson leads Trump for the first time in a national poll.  CBS, I think it was.

They did mention that there was a margin of error of + or - 6 points.
They did not mention, and it was at the bottom in small letters, that the sample of registered R voters was a whopping 575.
Color me unsurprised that they are pushing the Carson is winning meme.  Of course, should they happen to manage to discourage enough Trump voters to switching to Carson, they'd immediately begin to savage him as well.
I turned off the news.  I don't need to listen to a bunch of prejudiced opinionated assholes who masquerade as journalists keep tearing into my candidate.
Carson has some major disadvantages going for him, as much as Trump, or anyone else.  That quiet manner of his is TOO low energy, I thought it before Donald mentioned it.  He literally lulls me to sleep when I listen for more than a minute or two.  Guess he will do that to the average American as well.  Also, I had no clue he was a Seventh Day Adventist.  One of my sisters-in-law married into the church and there are some doctrinal differences with fundamental Protestant Christianity that may prove problematic once the Iowa evangelicals sink their teeth into that reality.
And if it's shown Carson was for amnesty recently, or Trump for that matter, they're gonna have as much of a hurt on them as Bush and Rubio currently do.
Mostly though, Carson has never run a business, served in government and while he would make a fantastic Surgeon General I can't see him being able to lift this country out of bankruptcy or regain our place in the world.  Not with the bullies in charge of enemy nations like Russia, and particularly Iran.  And China would continue to sneak around stealing our economic and defense secrets the way they have for decades.  No, we need a very strong and tough leader to stand up to them and kick them in the balls.
I don't see Rubio, Carson or Bush able to be a strong leader, although granted Rubio is a nice piece of eye candy for the ladies.

And while I said I would, and I will, vote for the R candidate, I really don't have any confidence in some of them, first that they could defeat HRC unless she's indicted   :whatever: because that bitch can fake it like no other candidate out there.  If she gets in trouble and Biden rides to the rescue, he's got enough gullible voters believing he really is a kindly elder statesman, when he's really a mean vindictive bastard. 

Politics is a long game and most of the stadium hasn't even filed into the stands to watch the kickoff so everything can change.
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: thundley4 on October 27, 2015, 12:05:31 PM
FOX morning news was really shilling the fact that Carson leads Trump for the first time in a national poll.  CBS, I think it was.

They did mention that there was a margin of error of + or - 6 points.
They did not mention, and it was at the bottom in small letters, that the sample of registered R voters was a whopping 575.
Color me unsurprised that they are pushing the Carson is winning meme.  Of course, should they happen to manage to discourage enough Trump voters to switching to Carson, they'd immediately begin to savage him as well.
I turned off the news.  I don't need to listen to a bunch of prejudiced opinionated assholes who masquerade as journalists keep tearing into my candidate.
Carson has some major disadvantages going for him, as much as Trump, or anyone else.  That quiet manner of his is TOO low energy, I thought it before Donald mentioned it.  He literally lulls me to sleep when I listen for more than a minute or two.  Guess he will do that to the average American as well.  Also, I had no clue he was a Seventh Day Adventist.  One of my sisters-in-law married into the church and there are some doctrinal differences with fundamental Protestant Christianity that may prove problematic once the Iowa evangelicals sink their teeth into that reality.
And if it's shown Carson was for amnesty recently, or Trump for that matter, they're gonna have as much of a hurt on them as Bush and Rubio currently do.
Mostly though, Carson has never run a business, served in government and while he would make a fantastic Surgeon General I can't see him being able to lift this country out of bankruptcy or regain our place in the world.  Not with the bullies in charge of enemy nations like Russia, and particularly Iran.  And China would continue to sneak around stealing our economic and defense secrets the way they have for decades.  No, we need a very strong and tough leader to stand up to them and kick them in the balls.
I don't see Rubio, Carson or Bush able to be a strong leader, although granted Rubio is a nice piece of eye candy for the ladies.

And while I said I would, and I will, vote for the R candidate, I really don't have any confidence in some of them, first that they could defeat HRC unless she's indicted   :whatever: because that bitch can fake it like no other candidate out there.  If she gets in trouble and Biden rides to the rescue, he's got enough gullible voters believing he really is a kindly elder statesman, when he's really a mean vindictive bastard. 

Politics is a long game and most of the stadium hasn't even filed into the stands to watch the kickoff so everything can change.

Fox still wants Jeb Bush.
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: CollectivismMustDie on October 28, 2015, 01:57:05 PM
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IMO, we need a bare knuckles fighter who will sling as much mud as Clinton and the Demos do.

The enemy never sleeps, so as the saying goes, we must endeavor to sleep even less. They already fight with bare knuckles, so we must endeavor to equip the right people with brass knuckles.

CMD

Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: Eupher on October 28, 2015, 07:17:29 PM
Fox still wants Jeb Bush.

I knew there was a reason I stopped watching Fox!

Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: The Stranger on October 29, 2015, 06:53:40 AM
Fox still wants Jeb Bush.
No doubt there are some over there who wet their panties at the mere mention of his name!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: libertybele on October 29, 2015, 08:21:11 PM
I doubt that any of the Repub. candidates with the exception of Trump and Cruz would air a video like that. Although I like Carson, he is in the goody, goody, two shoes mole of Mitt, who wimped out) and the rest of the Repub. candidates running in 06. IMO, we need a bare knuckles fighter who will sling as much mud as Clinton and the Demos do.

Hi 5. Exactly...Carson is too subdued and soft spoken.  There is no way he will win a debate against Hillary.  I am hoping that after last night's lackluster debate for him, he will start to fade away and eventually step down.
Title: Re: Benghazi Committee Hearing Just Started
Post by: Boudicca on October 30, 2015, 02:50:56 PM
Hi 5. Exactly...Carson is too subdued and soft spoken.  There is no way he will win a debate against Hillary.  I am hoping that after last night's lackluster debate for him, he will start to fade away and eventually step down.

I spent all day yesterday watching the various networks dissect that disgrace of a "debate" debacle those CNBC pukeheads moderated
The main thing that struck me was how little coverage Carson received, positive or negative.  Jeb got alot of grief, but he at least got mentioned.  And if Carson closes his eyes one more time while he's speaking I will scream.  I can't imagine trying to listen to him for four years.  I'm sure he was plenty competent and animated while he was performing surgery, but there's a reason older people retire from high pressure jobs and he's Exhibit A, imo.