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Title: Where's the pork?
Post by: Belle on October 13, 2015, 06:33:07 PM
The topsy-turvy world of political correctness has landed on the prison system.
No more pork for prisoners.
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The federal Bureau of Prisons, responsible for over 200,000 inmates, reportedly imposed the ham ban at the beginning of the month and said it was in response to surveys of prisoners' food preferences. According to the government, pork just wasn't a popular menu item.

Spokesman for the prison bureau, Edmond Ross:
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“Pork has been the lowest-rated food by inmates for several years.”

Hard to believe, right?  Kind of reminds me of a poll that most Americans favor amnesty & open borders.

Spokesperson for the Nat'l. Pork producers council (NPPC):
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"We find it hard to believe that a survey would have found a majority of any population saying, ‘No thanks, I don’t want any bacon.  For people who are incarcerated, we understand that they’re denied certain rights and freedoms but we don’t think bacon should be one of them.
 
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The NPPC says 547,800 jobs are involved in various aspects of the pork industry, creating an estimated $22.3 billion in personal incomes and contributing $39 billion to the GDP.

CAIR denies any involvement but "welcomed the move."

Ibrahim Hooper, CAIR spokesman:
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“It helps with the religious accommodation of Muslim and Jewish inmates who don’t eat pork."

Wow, glad CAIR cares about the Jewish inmates.  What?!? 
 
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/13/outrage-as-pork-chopped-from-federal-prison-menu-by-feds/
Title: Re: Where's the pork?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on October 14, 2015, 04:52:34 AM
Well you wake up in the morning,
You hear the work bell ring.
Then they march you to the table
You see  the same old thing.

Ain't no meat upon the table
Ain't no pork up in the pan
But you better not complain boy,
You get in trouble with The Man.

 :yum:
Title: Re: Where's the pork?
Post by: dutch508 on October 14, 2015, 05:28:48 AM
Well you wake up in the morning,
You hear the work bell ring.
Then they march you to the table
You see  the same old thing.

Ain't no meat upon the table
Ain't no pork up in the pan
But you better not complain boy,
You get in trouble with The Man.

 :yum:

Is that the midnight special?
Title: Re: Where's the pork?
Post by: SVPete on October 14, 2015, 08:03:06 AM
Is withholding bacon from inmates safe?

And, yes, that was a quote from a CCR song, and it was written by John Fogerty. Despite their bayou country image, at least 3 of CCR's four original members were born and raised in the SF Bay Area (Berserkeley and Palo Alto). I like the sound of their music - loved it when I was growing up - but their fatuous populism nauseates me.
Title: Re: Where's the pork?
Post by: clemdawg on October 14, 2015, 08:12:58 AM
Maybe its me, but since when do inmates get to decide meals? Eat or dont.
Title: Re: Where's the pork?
Post by: Boudicca on October 14, 2015, 09:20:14 AM
Maybe its me, but since when do inmates get to decide meals? Eat or dont.

And since WHEN does political correctness transcend BACON?  That's just un-American.  I agree prisoners should eat, or not, what they are served, so why can't the Muslim inmates simply not accept bacon, ham and other pork products on their plates?  Why does the majority of the prison population, some of whom are incarcerated for some of the same, or similar low level offenses most, if not all, of people walking around free on the streets have committed sometime in their lives, have to kowtow to this ridiculous notion of not ruffling feelings of those who are easily offended?  It's just another encroachment of liberty into ALL of our freedoms.

Prisoner menus should be decided by what's cheap, healthy and popular.  Next thing you know, if the Muslims have their way, we won't be able to buy pork products in our local grocery stores because it might offend the religious practices of Jews  :whatever: and Muzzies.  Forget the Jews, CAIR and the other La Raza like Islamic promoting groups certainly do unless they want to drag them out as whipping boys, or props in their ludicrous arguments.  **** Islamic sensibilities.  If you don't like pork, don't eat it, but don't try to take away my bacon, or for that matter, the pork we serve to inmates.  And if the poor offended Muzzies don't like it, they can get the hell out of this nation, which was founded on religious freedom.  Religious freedom doesn't mean freedom only from Christianity, you ****ing libs, as you like to assume, but equally freedom from Islam.  Not getting into the entire debate about how we were founded on Judeo-Christian practices, just using your so-called logic to point out the inconsistency of shoving crosses out of campus chapels given half a chance while breaking out into a flop sweat so as to not offend one precious little Muslim person's feelings. :bird: you  :mental: idiots.

Not directed at you clemdawg; I don't know you from Adam, so let me welcome you to the Cave.  Alot of us take our bacon very seriously. :cheersmate:
Title: Re: Where's the pork?
Post by: clemdawg on October 14, 2015, 09:24:29 AM
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Maybe its me, but since when do inmates get to decide meals? Eat or dont.
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And since WHEN does political correctness transcend BACON?  That's just un-American.  I agree prisoners should eat, or not, what they are served, so why can't the Muslim inmates simply not accept bacon, ham and other pork products on their plates?  Why does the majority of the prison population, some of whom are incarcerated for some of the same low level offenses most, if not all, of people walking around free on the streets, have to kowtow to this ridiculous notion of not ruffling feelings of those who are easily offended?  It's just another encroachment of liberty into ALL of our freedoms.

Prisoner menus should be decided by what's cheap, healthy and popular.  Next thing you know, if the Muslims have their way, we won't be able to buy pork products in our local grocery stores because it might offend the religious practices of Jews  :whatever: and Muzzies.  Forget the Jews, CAIR and the other La Raza like Islamic promoting groups certainly do unless they want to drag them out as whipping boys, or props in their ludicrous arguments.  **** Islamic sensibilities.  If you don't like pork, don't eat it, but don't try to take away my bacon, or for that matter, the pork we serve to inmates.  And if the poor offended Muzzies don't like it, they can get the hell out of this nation, which was founded on religious freedom.  Religious freedom doesn't mean freedom only from Christianity, you ****ing libs, as you like to assume, but equally freedom from Islam.  Not getting into the entire debate about how we were founded on Judeo-Christian practices, just using your so-called logic to point out the inconsistency of shoving crosses out of campus chapels given half a chance while breaking out into a flop sweat so as to not offend one precious little Muslim person's feelings. :bird: you  :mental: idiots.

Not directed at you clemdawg; I don't know you from Adam, so let me welcome you to the Cave.  Alot of us take our bacon very seriously. :cheersmate:

I agree completely
Title: Re: Where's the pork?
Post by: Boudicca on October 14, 2015, 09:29:03 AM
Well, now that we know you like bacon too, clemdawg, please tell us a bit about yourself.  We do have an introductions and welcome forum, but a topic about pork will definitely get more attention. :yum: :yum: :lmao:
Title: Re: Where's the pork?
Post by: Belle on October 14, 2015, 12:19:48 PM
Boudicca: 
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...so why can't the Muslim inmates simply not accept bacon, ham and other pork products on their plates?

Right, why can't they?

Perhaps its because they are part of this administration's protected/privileged groups:
- African americans
- illegal immigrants
- Syrian refugees

The protected classes may be expanded to include solar buddies, (eg. Solyndra),  legislators (laws for thee, not for me), Global warmists, Bundlers (eg.Corzine, $1.6B missing), lobbyists & so goes the favoritism & corruption.

O's selective favoritism:  CAIR trumps NPPC.

 DumbAss Tanker:  loved those lyrics.
 
Title: Re: Where's the pork?
Post by: Chris_ on October 14, 2015, 12:23:07 PM
Federal prisons already have halal, kosher, and vegetarian menus in addition to the standard fare.
Title: Re: Where's the pork?
Post by: thundley4 on October 14, 2015, 04:09:07 PM
Federal prisons already have halal, kosher, and vegetarian menus in addition to the standard fare.

However, the fact that pork is even prepared in the same kitchen probably offend the delicate Muzzies.
Title: Re: Where's the pork?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on October 14, 2015, 04:17:24 PM
Is that the midnight special?

Yep.
Title: Re: Where's the pork?
Post by: Boudicca on October 14, 2015, 06:10:30 PM
Boudicca: 
Right, why can't they?

Perhaps its because they are part of this administration's protected/privileged groups:
- African americans
- illegal immigrants
- Syrian refugees

The protected classes may be expanded to include solar buddies, (eg. Solyndra),  legislators (laws for thee, not for me), Global warmists, Bundlers (eg.Corzine, $1.6B missing), lobbyists & so goes the favoritism & corruption.

O's selective favoritism:  CAIR trumps NPPC.

 DumbAss Tanker:  loved those lyrics.

Sorry, Belle, meant to write the comment about them not accepting pork products on their plate, as okay, they don't want it, refuse to eat pork.  More bacon for the rest of us.
Hmm, maybe we can make Christian chapels and churches more ecumenically friendly for our Muslim friends and have a life size humanized statue of Porky Pig in the doorway with a plate of bacon wrapped cheese puffs?  I'll run that by our friend the lesbian bishop of Stockholm.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/worlds-first-openly-lesbian-bishop-to-remove-crosses-build-islamic-prayer-room-in-swedish-seamens-church-147095/

OKAY this just proves

1) European Christianity and culture are well on the way to being Islamized.  The shit Mohammed started back in pagan Mecca to infest, not just his part of the world, but the rest of us, has spread its blight over what used to be civilized humanity.

2) Lesbians don't get any prettier when someone sprinkles them with holy water.

Yeah, okay, cheap shot cuz some gays and lesbians are smokin' hot, but this dame is certainly not and anyone who believes otherwise is  :stoner:
Title: Re: Where's the pork?
Post by: clemdawg on October 15, 2015, 07:35:06 AM
Well, now that we know you like bacon too, clemdawg, please tell us a bit about yourself.  We do have an introductions and welcome forum, but a topic about pork will definitely get more attention. :yum: :yum: :lmao:

Well. I love Bacon. Everything is better with bacon. 44 year old conservative, who works as a Mechanical Designer. Football fan. Enjoy time with my family. Think this country is going horribly ary. Hows that.
Title: Re: Where's the pork?
Post by: Belle on October 15, 2015, 10:01:50 AM
Boudicca:
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European Christianity and culture are well on the way to being Islamized

So true.  & after Europe, well, its already starting here. 

 I suppose there will also be a war on Caucasians until we start paying reparations.  Which is the craziest idea ever (like we were here when slavery happened), but it's a way to make alot more people poorer. 

Why would culturally similar groups of people, including our own, want to actively engage in national suicide?  It just doesn't make sense.  Michael (sorry, I always seem to go back to him) thinks for America it is not only to decimate the middle class, which we're all aware of, but to have a voting class of slaves. That way the oligarch controls everything.
ExpeditingNationalSuicide (http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/09/expediting_national_suicide_with_refugees.html)
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By the end of 2016, the State Department anticipates we will have brought as many as 10,000 Syrians to the United States
 
and 200,000 through 2017 (http://rightwingnews.com/top-news/obama-administration-to-accept-200000-refugees-through-2017/)
 
Where's the CoC controlled Congress with all of this?  Paid & happy.
Title: Re: Where's the pork?
Post by: Maverick1987 on October 15, 2015, 10:13:57 AM
Why would culturally similar groups of people, including our own, want to actively engage in national suicide?  It just doesn't make sense.

Because misery loves company.
Title: Re: Where's the pork?
Post by: DLR Pyro on October 15, 2015, 10:31:14 AM
Maybe its me, but since when do inmates get to decide meals? Eat or dont.
I'm sure somewhere in some government warehouse we have a stockpile of decades old c-rats or MREs at or beyond their shelf life date.  I say let the criminals dine on cold beans and mother****ers to save the tax payer some dollars and remind the criminal that they are being detained because they broke the law.
Title: Re: Where's the pork?
Post by: Boudicca on October 15, 2015, 08:24:02 PM
Belle, the freaking educational system, in both Europe and the USA, is geared towards nothing less than the total annihilation of our Caucasian and cultural and religious identities.  The absolute worst thing you can be born as in this era is a white male, particularly if you are straight and non-Islamic.  Any opprobrium heaped upon you is totally lauded, even and especially by the mentally stunted, self-loathing white men who would do anything to be accepted by the worst of the worst-the Jeremiah Wrights and Louis Farrakhans and yea, Barack Hussein Obamas of this world-by throwing their fellow white men under the bus and driving and backing over them again and again until any iota of identity has been subsumed into a blight of self=hatred.  To make this offense even worse, these towering assholes want to perpetuate such a mind **** that they drag the women who married these men, who birthed these boys, into also railing about them for the audacity to be born white and male, and thus somehow sprung fully formed from the womb as an entitled asshole, no matter how poor, no matter how underprivileged they may be, by virtue of their skin color and a set of genitals, not only do they merit no special treatment, they become the focus of all indignation and hatred.  It is pervasive from Hollywood, to DC, the military, and above all, the indoctrination of ALL children to hate white boys starts, early and is reinforced often.  So, no wonder today's young men grow up hating themselves, and the men of color, which is such an assinine descriptor, but whatever, hate as well, and sometimes the women are the worse.
We are all hell bent on destruction as a culture, as nations, as a distinct religion.  It's as though these days EVERY group has a right to exist as a special minority who is proud of its identity except the white male and his female counterpart unless she joins in the hate.  Then it's labeled racism, bigotry, it's excoriated and the worst opprobrium of all is heaped upon anyone of the special groups who sees through all the utter bullshit and chooses to not play the game.  Exhibit A:  Condi Rice.  And of course nowadays the hate for men like Sheriff Clarke and Ben Carson is horrendous.
So Belle, that's my take on why liberal education will be the death of our unique civilization.  It may well be too late for Europe; certainly if it falls to the Caliphate there's no one left sorta standing, and thanks to libs, greatly weakened, except decent Americans who will have to fight not only the encroaching Muzzie terrorists but the demons infesting our national institutions.
Title: Re: Where's the pork?
Post by: obumazombie on October 15, 2015, 10:05:29 PM
Belle, the freaking educational system, in both Europe and the USA, is geared towards nothing less than the total annihilation of our Caucasian and cultural and religious identities. 
The absolute worst thing you can be born as in this era is a white male, particularly if you are straight and non-Islamic. 

Any opprobrium heaped upon you is totally lauded, even and especially by the mentally stunted, self-loathing white men who would do anything to be accepted by the worst of the worst-the Jeremiah Wrights and Louis Farrakhans and yea, Barack Hussein Obamas of this world-by throwing their fellow white men under the bus and driving and backing over them again and again until any iota of identity has been subsumed into a blight of self=hatred. 

To make this offense even worse, these towering assholes want to perpetuate such a mind **** that they drag the women who married these men, who birthed these boys, into also railing about them for the audacity to be born white and male, and thus somehow sprung fully formed from the womb as an entitled asshole, no matter how poor, no matter how underprivileged they may be, by virtue of their skin color and a set of genitals, not only do they merit no special treatment, they become the focus of all indignation and hatred. 

It is pervasive from Hollywood, to DC, the military, and above all, the indoctrination of ALL children to hate white boys starts, early and is reinforced often.  So, no wonder today's young men grow up hating themselves, and the men of color, which is such an assinine descriptor, but whatever, hate as well, and sometimes the women are the worse.

We are all hell bent on destruction as a culture, as nations, as a distinct religion. 
It's as though these days EVERY group has a right to exist as a special minority who is proud of its identity except the white male and his female counterpart unless she joins in the hate. 

Then it's labeled racism, bigotry, it's excoriated and the worst opprobrium of all is heaped upon anyone of the special groups who sees through all the utter bullshit and chooses to not play the game. 
Exhibit A:  Condi Rice. 

And of course nowadays the hate for men like Sheriff Clarke and Ben Carson is horrendous.
So Belle, that's my take on why liberal education will be the death of our unique civilization. 

It may well be too late for Europe; certainly if it falls to the Caliphate there's no one left sorta standing, and thanks to libs, greatly weakened, except decent Americans who will have to fight not only the encroaching Muzzie terrorists but the demons infesting our national institutions.

I like reading your posts.
But I'm going to have to reformat them before I can.
I hope you don't mind.
Otherwise it's like a big blur to me.
Title: Re: Where's the pork?
Post by: Maverick1987 on October 15, 2015, 10:22:23 PM
Belle, the freaking educational system, in both Europe and the USA, is geared towards nothing less than the total annihilation of our Caucasian and cultural and religious identities.  The absolute worst thing you can be born as in this era is a white male, particularly if you are straight and non-Islamic.  Any opprobrium heaped upon you is totally lauded, even and especially by the mentally stunted, self-loathing white men who would do anything to be accepted by the worst of the worst-the Jeremiah Wrights and Louis Farrakhans and yea, Barack Hussein Obamas of this world-by throwing their fellow white men under the bus and driving and backing over them again and again until any iota of identity has been subsumed into a blight of self=hatred.  To make this offense even worse, these towering assholes want to perpetuate such a mind **** that they drag the women who married these men, who birthed these boys, into also railing about them for the audacity to be born white and male, and thus somehow sprung fully formed from the womb as an entitled asshole, no matter how poor, no matter how underprivileged they may be, by virtue of their skin color and a set of genitals, not only do they merit no special treatment, they become the focus of all indignation and hatred.  It is pervasive from Hollywood, to DC, the military, and above all, the indoctrination of ALL children to hate white boys starts, early and is reinforced often.  So, no wonder today's young men grow up hating themselves, and the men of color, which is such an assinine descriptor, but whatever, hate as well, and sometimes the women are the worse.
We are all hell bent on destruction as a culture, as nations, as a distinct religion.  It's as though these days EVERY group has a right to exist as a special minority who is proud of its identity except the white male and his female counterpart unless she joins in the hate.  Then it's labeled racism, bigotry, it's excoriated and the worst opprobrium of all is heaped upon anyone of the special groups who sees through all the utter bullshit and chooses to not play the game.  Exhibit A:  Condi Rice.  And of course nowadays the hate for men like Sheriff Clarke and Ben Carson is horrendous.
So Belle, that's my take on why liberal education will be the death of our unique civilization.  It may well be too late for Europe; certainly if it falls to the Caliphate there's no one left sorta standing, and thanks to libs, greatly weakened, except decent Americans who will have to fight not only the encroaching Muzzie terrorists but the demons infesting our national institutions.

Subject #1 - randys1
Title: Re: Where's the pork?
Post by: Chris_ on October 16, 2015, 12:33:14 AM
I like reading your posts.
But I'm going to have to reformat them before I can.
I hope you don't mind.
Otherwise it's like a big blur to me.
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Title: Re: Where's the pork?
Post by: Boudicca on October 16, 2015, 08:05:20 AM
Sorry guys.  When I get rolling full steam ahead I tend to write in a stream of consciousness sort of way.  Paragraph formation rarely occurs to me.  I promise, more paragraphs!  :ashamed:
Title: Re: Where's the pork?
Post by: Belle on October 16, 2015, 04:45:44 PM
I don't know, call me different, but I kind of liked the "stream of consciousness" written in uninterrupted verse.  For me, it showed raw emotion & honesty. 
Boudicca: 
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...that's my take on why liberal education will be the death of our unique civilization.

I couldn't agree more.

 Common core, to confuse everyone.  Everyone passes & gets an A, uniformity in a communist classroom.  Assistance w/birth control, Big Brother replaces parents. (http://www.lifenews.com/2015/07/02/schools-implant-iuds-in-girls-as-young-as-6th-grade-without-their-parents-knowing/), legalized pot, soma; & my biggest pet peeve:  revisionist history.
Diversity trumps Founders. (http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/14/de-blasio-family-removes-paintings-of-founding-fathers-replaces-them-with-more-diverse-artwork/)

Title: Re: Where's the pork?
Post by: Eupher on October 16, 2015, 04:54:35 PM
Boudie tells it like it is. I just make the screen bigger (Ctrl+mouse button) to get things where I don't get lost moving left to right.

Just think -- if I were a Muzzie, I'd have to read her stuff right to left and then I'd REALLY get lost.  :-)
Title: Re: Where's the pork?
Post by: Boudicca on October 16, 2015, 05:28:19 PM
Boudie tells it like it is. I just make the screen bigger (Ctrl+mouse button) to get things where I don't get lost moving left to right.

Just think -- if I were a Muzzie, I'd have to read her stuff right to left and then I'd REALLY get lost.  :-)

LOL, Euph, and that's only the dudes.  Remember, they treat their women like animals and educating them is not encouraged.
Belle, it is totally raw emotion, my dear, and I know all of us here feel equally disgusted with the trend in our nation these daysl

I wore my Make America Great Again Trump cap today while I walked the dogs...one of the neighbors said he was for Carson but allowed that First Lady Trump would be the hawtest evah!  Another friend said she wasn't sure yet but was scared to death of Bernie.  Yet another guy shared that he'd gone to some shindig at our Veteran's Memorial Park this past weekend and at the Dem booth (where he kinda got into it with one of those people, lol) all the literature they were handing out was Bernie; Hilary wasn't even an afterthought.

Oh, and the random Hispanic dude I don't know who passed me with his dog just smiled and waved.  He musta been a legal immigrant, and not a criminal trespasser.
Title: Re: Where's the pork?
Post by: Boudicca on October 16, 2015, 05:29:26 PM
Subject #1 - randys1

Aslo, Mav, it applies to the white half of Obama. :-)
Title: Re: Where's the pork?
Post by: sargentodiaz on October 17, 2015, 11:12:51 AM
Pork Ban in Prisons Rescinded

Why? Because one powerful Senator from Iowa informed the Bureau of Prisons that he was “unhappy” with the decision. As easy as that?

Read more @ http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-just-got-this-huge-news-about-his-pork-ban-that-hes-not-going-to-like-one-bit/
Title: Re: Where's the pork?
Post by: Belle on October 17, 2015, 02:02:32 PM
Hey, sargentodiaz, great post; I just read this on Hotair. 

One of my faults (& I have many) is not always seeing the bigger picture.  Now (lightbulb) I'm seeing this as a microcosm of the corruption in politics.

Muslims don't like pork.  They don't like looking at it, being around it, or having it in the kitchen with prepared food.
Fair enough, but in prison its a different story.

This next narrative is pure conjecture.   Muslims complain to CAIR.  CAIR puts pressure on O, & wa-la, pork is banned.  & they support this ban with lies, which come easy to progressives.  No one likes bacon, pork is down on the preferred list, & now, its pork is too expensive.  (since when is anything too expensive for the O administration?  If they wanted to cut down, cut out some Air Force One vacation/fundraising trips, & give the prisoners their pork).

So the NPCC sees their bottom line cut, & they go crying to rino Grassley.  Grassley (where Iowa is the largest pork producer in America)  writes a letter to Charles E. Samuels, Jr., Director, Bureau of Prisons. Samuels calls O, & said, ya gotta give them something.  So O confers with his ladies (Michelle, the mother-in-law & Jarrett) & says, let them have pork roast, but no bacon, or something like that. 

& this is our donor paid government in action.