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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Carl on October 13, 2015, 08:26:21 AM
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Mon Oct 12, 2015, 08:31 PM
grasswire (43,688 posts)
Karl Rove is VERY AFRAID of the new Dan Rather - Robert Redford movie
Yesterday afternoon I watched FOX. Yes, I did. Neither MSNBC nor CNN was live with news commentary. So I watched Howie the Duck Kurtz on his media show. And I watched Chris Wallace.
What I learned mostly is how afraid Karl Rove is of the new movie "Truth" about George W. Bush's AWOL adventure -- a story that, of course, Rove is featured in up to his fat eyeballs.
He really attacked Rather and Bob Burkett and promoted all those old lies.
Really, really scared.
Damn,I bet President Bush will lose to Kerry now. :rofl:
Response to grasswire (Original post)
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 08:35 PM
Star Member malaise (133,655 posts)
1. Get thee to the greatest page
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeet! This won't help Jeb.
They really think Jeb will be the nominee. ::)
Response to grasswire (Original post)
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 09:46 PM
no_hypocrisy (26,134 posts)
14. Is it too late to indict him?
Just 24 business hours to go!
Response to grasswire (Original post)
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 10:05 PM
Spitfire of ATJ (25,820 posts)
17. Rove needs to go to jail.....
We all know the list of charges.
Still waiting for you mutts to ever name them.
Response to Renew Deal (Reply #26)
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 11:25 PM
Star Member starroute (12,515 posts)
33. It matters because the case was used to destroy Dan Rather's reputation
The right had been hoping for years to get an opportunity to go after CBS, and especially after Rather, and this gave it to them.
There was some sloppiness on CBS's part -- what they got were xeroxes of documents and not originals, and there was no chain of custody. But the stuff Rove says about the font not being available at the time is completely false, and there were plausible answers to the other questions that were raised.
Response to starroute (Reply #33)
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 11:38 PM
0rganism (17,850 posts)
37. variable width type setting (kerning) was uncommon to find on a typewriter back then
and seems unlikely to have been used for day-to-day personnel reports by the CO's secretary.
personally, i think the documents were forgeries fed to CBS by Rove's goons, with text taken from actual reports. that way, not only did Rove destroy Rather, he took the entire AWOL story off the table completely as anyone else coming forward, even with the genuine memos, would have been mired in confusion and conflation with the phony documents. it was a winning strategy for W. slimy, but winning.
Response to 0rganism (Reply #37)
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:36 AM
grasswire (43,688 posts)
41. yes
It was a total op. A political op.
And it's time to expose all of it.
Worse than slimy, considering that thousands of men and women died under the command of a fraudulent commander in chief.
Your oatmeal and sedation will be along shortly.
Response to 0rganism (Reply #37)
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 07:52 AM
Star Member yardwork (38,962 posts)
49. That seemed to be exactly what happened.
The internet lit up during the 60 Minutes broadcast with accusations of fraud. It was clear that the whole thing was planned. Dan Rather took the bait.
It's too bad 60 Minutes didn't run the other story they had prepared for broadcast that night. It was about Abu Ghraib.
The entire universe is a grand conspiracy against you,abandon all hope!
Response to 0rganism (Reply #37)
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 08:51 AM
Star Member deutsey (19,610 posts)
53. I also think it was a Rovian trap
And Rather, who was a bit too eager to break the story, fell right into it.
In slimy Rovian style, Turdblossom took out an enemy and inoculated Bush from the AWOL charges at the same time.
I would love to see Rove get what he deserves someday, but the system is rigged to hide the dark, seamy underbelly where the likes of him reside.
Bush will be impeached!
Response to grasswire (Original post)
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:05 AM
Star Member tomm2thumbs (11,281 posts)
39. I'm sure he is hoping no one is working on a screenplay about The Franklin Scandal
Anyone know what this dolt is talking about?
Response to tomm2thumbs (Reply #39)
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:39 AM
grasswire (43,688 posts)
42. ayep
or the airliner that went down in Queens on the day that the newspaper consortium was scheduled to report their investigation into the uncounted ballots in Florida.
What??? Would the Bushes take down an airliner?
They did it before.
The orderlies will be taking the computer away again Judy. :mental:
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You gotta be kidding me.
Judy is really off her meds.
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Wait wait wait...
Are you saying the entire story was a plant by Rove using fake documents (that could be proven to be fake) using real information to try to discredit W. a few weeks before the election but then exposing them to be fake (documents- not the information) thus removing the possibility that the information (REAL, DAMMIT!!!) could be used to discredit W. two weeks before the election?
:rotf:
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Wait wait wait...
Are you saying the entire story was a plant by Rove using fake documents (that could be proven to be fake) using real information to try to discredit W. a few weeks before the election but then exposing them to be fake (documents- not the information) thus removing the possibility that the information (REAL, DAMMIT!!!) could be used to discredit W. two weeks before the election?
:rotf:
Huh?
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/2077970/dog-chasing-tail-o.gif)
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Response to tomm2thumbs (Reply #39)
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:39 AM
grasswire (43,688 posts)
42. ayep
or the airliner that went down in Queens on the day that the newspaper consortium was scheduled to report their investigation into the uncounted ballots in Florida.
What??? Would the Bushes take down an airliner?
They did it before.
(http://global3.memecdn.com/I-BELIEVE_o_96222.jpg)
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With all the pols they hate living rent-free in their heads it's a wonder their heads have room for their own min ... ummmmm ....... never mind .........
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Response to grasswire (Original post)
cpompilo (239 posts) Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:06 PM
69. Bush was a coke head at the time which is why he skipped out on his flight readiness physical.
He was partying at our neighbor's beach house down near Galveston at that time. According to our neighbor, his drug of choice was cocaine which was preferable because he would get belligerent when he smoked pot.
TominTib maybe?
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Response to grasswire (Original post)
cpompilo (239 posts) Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:06 PM
69. Bush was a coke head at the time which is why he skipped out on his flight readiness physical.
He was partying at our neighbor's beach house down near Galveston at that time. According to our neighbor, his drug of choice was cocaine which was preferable because he would get belligerent when he smoked pot.
My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.
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I look forward to the wailing and gnashing of teeth by the DUmbasses when this movie bombs in its opening weekend due to people choosing to see movies that entertain instead of bore you to death.
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It's pretty bad that even CBS has run a review saying "There is precious little truth in Truth"
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Anyone know what this dolt is talking about?
Yes.
Financial and sex scandal in the late 1980s. The lead investigator, Gary Caradori, and his son died in a private plane crash in 1990. The investigation unraveled shortly afterward.
(http://hotk.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/franklin.jpg)
There is a "rest of the story". Buy me a beer sometime, and I'll tell you.
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The FRANKLIN SCANDAL is the story of a nationwide pedophile ring that pandered children to a cabal of the rich and powerful. The ring’s pimps were a pair of political powerbrokers who had access to the highest levels of our government. Nebraska legislators attempted to expose the network in 1989 and 1990, but the legislators' efforts were followed by a rash of mysterious deaths and the overpowering responses of federal and local law enforcement, including the FBI and Justice Department, which effected an immaculate cover-up of the trafficking network.
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The Franklin child prostitution ring allegations took place between 1988 and 1991 and involved an alleged child sex ring serving prominent citizens of the Nebraska Republican Party, as well as high-level U.S. politicians. The allegations also claimed that the alleged sex ring was led by, "a cult of devil worshipers involved in the mutilation, sacrifice and cannibalism of numerous children." The allegations centered on the actions of Lawrence E. King Jr., who ran the now defunct Franklin Community Federal Credit Union (FCFCU) in Omaha, Nebraska
The Nebraska State Foster Care Review Board submitted the results of a two-year investigation into the alleged physical and sexual abuse of foster children to the Executive Board of the Nebraska Legislature, who were investigating reports of child sexual abuse linked to the credit union. Authorities launched a probe, interviewing a number of claimed abuse victims who said that children in foster care were flown to the U.S. East Coast and were abused at "bad parties." After investigation, a grand jury in Douglas County (of which Omaha, Nebraska is the largest city and county seat) determined the abuse allegations were baseless, describing them as a "carefully crafted hoax" and indicted two of the accusers on perjury charges. The grand jury also suggested that the abuse stories originated from a vindictive employee terminated by Boys Town, the famed refuge for troubled youths. Later, a federal grand jury concluded that the abuse allegations were unfounded and indicted 21-year-old Alisha Owen, an alleged victim, on eight counts of perjury. The same grand jury also indicted multiple officers of the credit union, including King, for crimes related to the embezzlement of funds from the credit union. Alisha Owen served 4-1/2 years in prison.
This was the biggest pedophile scandal in the history of the U.S.A. The story received some newspaper coverage but there was a TV News Media blackout on the subject. For this reason, most Americans have never heard of it.
Former republican Senator John Decamp was involved in the production a documentary called "Conspiracy of Silence" it was to air May 3, 1994 on the Discovery Channel. This documentary exposed a network of religious leaders and Washington politicians who flew children to Washington D.C. for sex orgies. At the last minute before airing, unknown congressmen threatened the TV Cable industry with restrictive legislation if this documentary was aired.
Almost immediately, the rights to the documentary were purchased by unknown persons who had ordered all copies destroyed. A copy of this videotape was furnished anonymously to former Nebraska state senator and attorney John De Camp who made it available to retired F.B.I. chief, Ted L. Gunderson. While the video quality is not top grade, this tape is a blockbuster in what is revealed by the participants involved. You can purchase a VHS copy at this link. Or you can view an online copy at this page. Franklin Cover up video page
Boy prostitutes 15 years old (and younger) were taking midnight tours of the Whitehouse. There are 19 more Washington Times articles in full text about this case available here at this link.
Newspaper scans or text are not for commercial use. Solely to be used for the educational purposes of research and open discussion.
Update 3/26/2005
Bush Jr. continues in has father's Homosexual footsteps, by having callboys visiting the Whitehouse. Again the press plays the whole thing down.
(http://www.voxfux.com/features/bush_child_sex_coverup/15yearoldboy.gif)
Another Fake but accurate 'news' item.
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I guess I'm struggling with why Rove would care one whit about any of this shit at all.
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Response to grasswire (Original post)
Star Member Snotcicles (6,713 posts) Tue Oct 13, 2015, 02:41 PM
89. You just got a shout-out from Thom Hartmann for this thread grasswire. way to go. nt
The ultimate DUmmy honor! :rofl: