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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: Fundraiser on October 01, 2015, 03:24:18 PM
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I am new and this might be my only post. It is for those who did not vote in the last two presidential elections. This was posted last night on Facebook to my friends and family. No response is needed unless you want to.
THE STATE OF OUR COUNTRY by Chuck Stotz
What I am about to post will not sit well with some of my family and friends. If this posting offends you then I am truly sorry, ask for your forgiveness and ask you to dump this post in the electronic round basket.
For those of you who agree with this posting I ask you to pass it on to all of your friends on Facebook and I ask them to do the same.
I post this out of love of country, the one I served as a United States Marine and the one that has given me (under God) the best life I could have possibly imagined.
What set me off were the Russians telling us to leave Syria. This is just the last straw on a bale of hay that has been building for the past 7 years. Now you think I am going to bash President Obama and his council of leaders that surround him. No that is not what I am going to do.
I blame the 2 or 3 million conservatives and Republicans who did not go to the poles in 2012 because our candidate did not fit some notion of conservatism or religion or whatever. If you were one of those then any response to me will go unheard for you get what you don’t vote for. I was not one of those. It seems that in the Republican Party you need to be Joan of Arc, Richard the Lionhearted, General Douglas MacArthur, Condoleezza Rice or some other Knight or Lady on a Hill that will ride down and save us from whatever doom we conjure up at the moment. I am sorry to report to you that this person does not exist, say-one who is religious enough, conservative enough, states-person enough, tall enough, good looking enough, on and on.
It is time for us to GET REAL and, if we really believe that the country is on the wrong track, then get behind whoever is the nominee of the Party and show up at the poles. If you stay home again you will definitely get what you didn’t vote for.
PS to the Republican Candidates - GET REAL YOURSELVES. Tell us what you are going to do and not what the other candidate looks like, said about you or whatever little prissy thing you all are doing to win this nomination. There will be plenty of that CR$^%# in the main event.
Well, I have wanted to get that off my chest for a long time and now that I have I can go to bed. Good night all of my friends and family (who by the way are also my friends)
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Welcome to CC.
I'm glad you got that off your chest. In fact, just the other day I was saying, 'what this place needs is a new guy to come in and tell people to get real.'
Thanks for doing your part!
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Welcome to CC.
I'm glad you got that off your chest. In fact, just the other day I was saying, 'what this place needs is a new guy to come in and tell people to get real.'
Thanks for doing your part!
The coffee's for closers.
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Sorry, I'm confused here, are you Chuck or are you just cutting and pasting Chuck's words?
This group is going to take a lot stronger hand than yours to shape them up....Like herding cats you know. So far only the Coach has demonstrated a modicum of control over us.
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Sorry, I'm confused here, are you Chuck or are you just cutting and pasting Chuck's words?
This group is going to take a lot stronger hand than yours to shape them up....Like herding cats you know. So far only the Coach has demonstrated a modicum of control over us.
:ohmy:
MEOW! :-)
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I am new and this might be my only post.
I quit reading right there. I'm not wasting time on some asshole that swoops and poops his brains out all at once.
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I quit reading right there. I'm not wasting time on some asshole that swoops and poops his brains out all at once.
:coffee:
There's no damn wine smilie for this, dammit.
MODS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, being nice and ladylike the way I tend to be :lmao: I had a post all fired up ready to go earlier about this dude (who has indeed swooped and shit) but decided to refrain.
Thanks and hi 5 for flushing the toilet.
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The coffee's for closers.
And sprinkles are for winners, according to Fran.
For whoever doesn't understand my reference, thank your lucky star you don't watch tv enough to choke on the commercials.
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To answer to all of you. I am Chuck and I am Charles the poster. I did this last night but wanted to build a larger group who, if they agree, could get the word out to the 2 million sit at homes that cost us the election in 2012. I will now pay some attention to other posts and see if this is a good home for me. I am 73 and the good news is that unless we have a nuke war the govt can't do much more to me so I can sit back and watch the circus. HAGD
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Welcome, Chuck.
Where are you from, and how'd you find us?
73- you're right at my father's age.
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Found this place by trial and error. Google then looked at a couple and settled on this one. I live in N. Carolina now but am originally from Chicago. I am a news junkie mostly FOX, play Forge of Empires on the net, Sing in an old folks choir and work with my local Marine Corps League. Wife a farm girl from Central Illinois, cooks like a registered chef, and enjoys all the cop shows we watch on TV. Retirement is great.
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Boudicca: I sure am not here to control anyone. The only thing that keeps me from throwing things at the TV is venting my frustrations on occasions. I have learned in this long life controlling anyone is not real easy or not important. I look for straight honest discussion and not emotion. Kind of like Bill O'Reilly. No Spin but facts. Glad to meet you.
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I am new and this might be my only post. It is for those who did not vote in the last two presidential elections. This was posted last night on Facebook to my friends and family. No response is needed unless you want to.
THE STATE OF OUR COUNTRY by Chuck Stotz
What I am about to post will not sit well with some of my family and friends. If this posting offends you then I am truly sorry, ask for your forgiveness and ask you to dump this post in the electronic round basket.
For those of you who agree with this posting I ask you to pass it on to all of your friends on Facebook and I ask them to do the same.
I post this out of love of country, the one I served as a United States Marine and the one that has given me (under God) the best life I could have possibly imagined.
What set me off were the Russians telling us to leave Syria. This is just the last straw on a bale of hay that has been building for the past 7 years. Now you think I am going to bash President Obama and his council of leaders that surround him. No that is not what I am going to do.
I blame the 2 or 3 million conservatives and Republicans who did not go to the poles in 2012 because our candidate did not fit some notion of conservatism or religion or whatever. If you were one of those then any response to me will go unheard for you get what you don’t vote for. I was not one of those. It seems that in the Republican Party you need to be Joan of Arc, Richard the Lionhearted, General Douglas MacArthur, Condoleezza Rice or some other Knight or Lady on a Hill that will ride down and save us from whatever doom we conjure up at the moment. I am sorry to report to you that this person does not exist, say-one who is religious enough, conservative enough, states-person enough, tall enough, good looking enough, on and on.
It is time for us to GET REAL and, if we really believe that the country is on the wrong track, then get behind whoever is the nominee of the Party and show up at the poles. If you stay home again you will definitely get what you didn’t vote for.
PS to the Republican Candidates - GET REAL YOURSELVES. Tell us what you are going to do and not what the other candidate looks like, said about you or whatever little prissy thing you all are doing to win this nomination. There will be plenty of that CR$^%# in the main event.
Well, I have wanted to get that off my chest for a long time and now that I have I can go to bed. Good night all of my friends and family (who by the way are also my friends)
Since you "unloaded" I feel compelled to do the same. I am sorry, but the GOP establishment has done NOTHING since Obama has taken office. Through his executive orders, many rounds of playing the "blame game" and the liberal leadership of the GOP it is quite apparent that there is very little difference between the liberal left progressives and the GOP establishment.
I for one, REFUSE to vote for a Republican In Name Only. If I want a liberal in the office I would vote for one.
Perhaps you have not heard the speech that Senator Ted Cruz gave regarding McConnell. I have provided the link so that you can hear it. I don't know how it will affect you, but it brought tears to my eyes. Not because he validated what most of us have realized for quite some time has been going on, especially in the Senate, but because he had the COURAGE TO SPEAK OUT AND TELL THE TRUTH!!
I feel that it is my duty to my country to VOTE MY CONSCIOUS. Not to vote just for party, but to vote for the best candidate regardless of party. Voting just for the sake of party is why we are in the mess that we are in! Secondly, I most respectfully appreciate the service and dedication of those in the military. I feel I owe it to each and every one of them to do my part in helping to restore this country instead of continuing it on it's current path of destruction. Voting DEM or RINO will certainly continue this country towards destruction. I will write in a candidate or vote 3rd party if need be, but I WILL NOT vote just for the sake of party. There is too much at stake.
The way I see it, one can chose to vote to restore this country or one can vote to continue it's destruction.
Ted Cruz 2016. Reigniting the PROMISE OF AMERICA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaWgFoVI4JU
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libertybele: Believe it or not I agree to a point. We can all promote the leader we want to win but in the end when the chips are all played and we have a candidate, those who have set their litmess test so high will just have to sit at home an complain about something they really did nothing about. I want Rubio or yes, even Cruz or anyone but Trump but when the end comes my duty is support that person that comes close to my values. There is no Democrat that comes close. I will do my God and Country Duty and vote even if I have to hold my nose in the outhouse.
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Boudicca: I sure am not here to control anyone. The only thing that keeps me from throwing things at the TV is venting my frustrations on occasions. I have learned in this long life controlling anyone is not real easy or not important. I look for straight honest discussion and not emotion. Kind of like Bill O'Reilly. No Spin but facts. Glad to meet you.
Well, I give you lots of credit for actually introducing yourself, Fundraiser. So, my apologies, but the Cave has been burned plenty by a one off poster who comes, shits on our parade, and leaves without any further explanation of motive, which we naturally assume to be nefarious.
So, since you were nice enough to introduce yourself, let me apologize for maybe being a bitch, but you see, I have *talked* to thundley plenty and you just came and made a post like we were your Facebook friends when we didn't know you from Adam. I am pretty sure if anyone came here with an agenda to control any of us they would be sadly disillusioned. Sort of like we are with the lying Republicans we put in charge of our government. You see, we did control how Obama could rule by pulling purse strings. Bonehead refused to do that. Although the Senate under Turtles Mcconnell would have obstructed all kinds of new laws (and did) he couldn't control the House's refusal to fund the madness that the Obama administration. However, the asshat in charge of the House, Boehner, declined to mount any sort of challenge to the crazy dimmie crap issuing out of Obama's mouth. We are more than disillusioned at this point; we are pissed off and ready for a change.
Rubio dug himself a hole with me with his crap about collaborating with the Dim Senators re a path to citizenship for the illegal criminals in our country. I might vote for him if he's the nominee but only if he allows Trump to build that big beautiful wall. I love Cruz, as do many on this board, but my guy is Trump so hang around and we'll dance. :-)
Seriously though, I doubt it was the conservatives boycotting the last election that put the retard Obama in office; it was rather the myriad of unenlightened morons who pollute our college campuses and their mommas' basements.
Lastly, Semper Fi, my son was honorably discharged from the Marines and is now working as an EMT, but is very proud of being a Marine because once a Marine, always a Marine. My husband served 30 years in the Army and I did a whole lot less at 5 1/2 years (thank goodness or I wouldn't have met him in Germany).
So, anyway, hope you stick around. And, glad to meet you too, although we usually do this in the Intro Forum. I don't understand this stuff about Chuck that you and Bad Dog are talking about, so maybe you already introduced yourself a long time ago.
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Welcome, Chuck. :cheersmate:
My mother-in-law used to call me Chuck, even though that ain't my name.
As everybody knows, my name is Eupher, aka Euph.
I have no idea where she got "Chuck" from. Except, of course, she suffered from dementia.
:-)
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Welcome, Chuck. :cheersmate:
My mother-in-law used to call me Chuck, even though that ain't my name.
As everybody knows, my name is Eupher, aka Euph.
I have no idea where she got "Chuck" from. Except, of course, she suffered from dementia.
:-)
You forgot to mention your parrots. :thatsright: I don't associate Chuck with you, Eupher, you are Parrot Daddy to me. :)
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Thanks to all. I will watch the topics but I may not participate a lot unless I see something that interests me. I am really sitting out the Republican contest until after the first three primaries. By that time the low hanging fruit will be gone and we can get down to serious discussions on the ones left (er I mean Right lol). I actually watch Fox News for the absolute humor in the news. How dumb some of the members of congress, pundents and most especially the spinners in the Demo Party. It is better than a comedy show. Now the trouble with Russia may not be so funny in a few months. I wish I kept my 50s Bomb Shelter.
Semper Fi to your son Boudicca and a big OORah also. The only x marine was Lee Harvey Oswald.
Charles was my middle name but I chose to use it because it seemed more athletic back in the 50s.
Good night all. I will look in tomorrow.
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I actually watch Fox News for the absolute humor in the news. How dumb some of the members of congress, pundents and most especially the spinners in the Demo Party. It is better than a comedy show.
Well, if it's political humor you're after, we may have just the forum to interest you. :-)
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BS given for telling me how I should vote.
Our present situation is NOT the fault of 2-3 million conservatives sitting out the 2012 election.
Its the fault of the GOP establishment for not offering the base what it wants.
~~we live in a representative govt. If you cannot represent the wishes of the people do not expect to get their votes.
Look at 2014. The GOPe rode the anti-Obama wave to victory. They were elected to STOP Obama.
But instead, they cave to everything Obama wants,
~~If there is no difference from a democrat congress, why vote republican?
I for one will NOT vote for a RINO ever again. I didn't leave the party, the party left me.
I done with holding my nose and voting for Democrat light.
Don't like it, go to..you know where.
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Well Mr Mannn I think you have the full right to act as you see fit. The only thing you really don't need to do is to tell me where to go. I once had a Baptist tell me that because I was a Catholic that I was going to Hell. I told him this may be true but this he would not be at the gate to tell me that. The real trouble today is that we use poor language and character assassination and epithets along with personal judgments against those with differing opinions . What I will be looking for at this forum is fact based opinion that just might change my mind as to whom I would like to vote. If you do not plan to vote because of your values this is fine. I will vote for the person that comes close to my principles for I know that there never is one person that meets all of my principles. In my opinion a non vote is a submission and a gift to the candidate that meets non of my values and principles. HAGD
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Well Mr Mannn I think you have the full right to act as you see fit. The only thing you really don't need to do is to tell me where to go. I once had a Baptist tell me that because I was a Catholic that I was going to Hell. I told him this may be true but this he would not be at the gate to tell me that. The real trouble today is that we use poor language and character assassination and epithets along with personal judgments against those with differing opinions . What I will be looking for at this forum is fact based opinion that just might change my mind as to whom I would like to vote. If you do not plan to vote because of your values this is fine. I will vote for the person that comes close to my principles for I know that there never is one person that meets all of my principles. In my opinion a non vote is a submission and a gift to the candidate that meets non of my values and principles. HAGD
Glad to hear that the Republican establishment can count on your vote. They have already selected Boner's replacement, Mitch is hanging tough and Mitt is contemplating getting back in the race. How could we resist voting for such a strong conservative slate.
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Totally agree. It is very early to be counting chickens. Even if some of those chickens are running for office. My decision will not be made until my North Carolina Primary. Since I do not have any money at this time to donate I want the field to become tighter. I plan to donate my small gift for the General Election. Let's see what Iowa and New Hampshire has to say.
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You forgot to mention your parrots. :thatsright: I don't associate Chuck with you, Eupher, you are Parrot Daddy to me. :)
Guilty as charged. Chuck, I have a history with parrots. They seem to grow on me, so once in a while I'll sprout a feather and fly away. :rotf:
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I will add though that I am a little unhappy that we do not use the rules to our benefit as do the Democrats. As Butch would say-there are no rules in a knife fight. Or as a shariff once said. Bring a gun to a knife fight and bring a big gun to a gun fight and many is better than few so bring a gun with lots of bullets.
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Excuse my ignorance but I am new to this forum. What is a parrot?
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Fundraiser, Eupher is in truth a proud parrot Daddy. He is owned by two of them, I think it's two, right Eupher?
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Excuse my ignorance but I am new to this forum. What is a parrot?
It's like a chicken- at least it tastes that way.
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Ok that explains it clearly and concisely. LOL.
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It's like a chicken- at least it tastes that way.
No, parrots taste like rabbits.
Rabbits taste like ptarmigans.
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No, parrots taste like rabbits.
Rabbits taste like ptarmigans.
I'd never touch my tongue to a ptarmigan, so I'll take you at your word.
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The Banter is great but now let's get back to Politics. Did anyone watch Lou Dobbs tonight on Fox Bus. He and Katty McFarland really tore into Obama and is fectless attitude about Russia's plans in Syria. Just to open the door to some conversation.
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Fundraiser, Eupher is in truth a proud parrot Daddy. He is owned by two of them, I think it's two, right Eupher?
We are down to one, right now - the grey. Moved the eclectus to a breeder because she wanted to be a mommy too badly. Before we moved to MS, we had three, but two of them were fosters. And no, I ain't talkin' beer. dammit.
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i317/Eupher6/Pets/DSC_0003_edited-1.jpg)
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A feathered lizard. Your bird took a liking to my water glass. I wasn't sure how to feel about that, but I didn't want to get bitten.
Thank you for your hospitality, though. It was much appreciated.
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A feathered lizard. Your bird took a liking to my water glass. I wasn't sure how to feel about that, but I didn't want to get bitten.
Thank you for your hospitality, though. It was much appreciated.
She didn't drink much. :-)
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That parrot is beautiful. A while ago, in Big Lots, there was a customer with a white parrot on her shoulder. I asked if her parrot would sit on mine, & next thing I knew, there I was with that beautiful bird! Awesome feeling. We have bird feeders all around our home. The most lovely to look at are the hummingbirds. These feeders are right next to our window, so you can see these beauties up close.
Back to politics, from 10/1, Fundraiser's post:
I blame the 2 or 3 million conservatives and Republicans who did not go to the poles in 2012 because our candidate did not fit some notion of conservatism or religion or whatever.
I voted for McAmnesty, & then voted for Romney. But I've "evolved" & my rino voting days are over. As support for my decision, I, & many others, have learned that with a liberal R in both the House & Senate, what difference has that made?
In my opinion, the GOPe has never caved. They embrace progressivism & do everything they can to advance the liberal agenda. In essence, they are partners with the D’s. Oh, sure, they try to hide it (as in the Corker bill), or engage in failure theatre (as in Obamacare repeals), or they pretend to cave (as in funding PP or executive amnesty), or they’ll resort to ridicule to minimize their opponents. Who could forget Boehner mocking conservatives who were against amnesty, ohhh, this is too hard. Or McCain pushing back against Trump for firing up the crazies.
As Boudicca aptly stated "...the lying Republicans we put in charge of our government." . Rubio & Flake ran as Tea party conservatives. McAmnesty visited the borders to help his senate re-election. & Boehner cried that he got it after the House turned R.
& then there’s money to be had. Ya’ll know the routine. Lobbyists pay individuals for access & their input in favorable legislation for the corporation they represent. Saddest one for me was our Senator Tim Scott, accepting $67,500 from pro-TPP corporations &, predictably, voted yes. I suppose because he’s a new senator he didn’t receive as much as Rob Portman, who received $119,700 from 14 different corporations.
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/may/27/corporations-paid-us-senators-fast-track-tpp
Lobbyists, a blight on our Constitutional Republic. They are not only the funding agents for our corrupt politicians, but here's the CoC dishing out the funds to quiet the conservative voice. On the other hand, these lobbyists would leave K street if our politicians had respectability, but alas, many have no scruples. Its a cycle that will never end. Because after many politicians leave, they themselves become lobbyists, taking with them all that influence & information.
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce will literally double down in its efforts to crush the Tea Party to get legislation–like a comprehensive amnesty bill and the reauthorization of the Export-Import Bank–that it covets.
After budgeting $50 million to elect establishment-friendly candidates in the 2014 election cycle, the chamber will reportedly spend as much as $100 million in the 2016 election cycle to crush conservatives. According to a Roll Call report, some of the group’s “top targets in 2016 will be right-wing, tea party candidates†who have opposed amnesty for illegal immigrants, Obamatrade, and reauthorizing the Export-Import Bank.
The Chamber of Commerce’s ultimate goal is to reportedly win back “the soul of the Republican Party†by electing more establishment Republicans “in contested primaries to strengthen their hand during policy debates on the Hill.â€
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/01/chamber-of-commerce-to-spend-100-million-to-destroy-tea-party/
In closing, our liberal R's built this when they fully funded O's executive amnesty, pushed amnesty in the Senate, & did nothing to close our borders:
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/10/illegal-immigrants-could-elect-hillary-clinton-213216
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All of this may be and in some cases true. I applaud your principle stand. And if we can get the most conservative with the ability to lead us out of this morass then that is wonderful. This is why I am not putting any support behind any candidate until I can see who floats to the top. I am mad as hell but I know I have no control over any of it. First let's us begin to find a way through this forum to talk to our fellow conservatives and push for the candidate that meets this criteria. Who are you for? I can be persuaded because I do not have to make a decision until the NC primary. Let's start a new thread that opens up with the subject - WHO SHOULD WE VOTE FOR IN THE PRIMARIES -. No name calling, emotion or innuendos, Just facts, figures and truths. If a candidate is for amnesty then show where he has supported it. If he or she has a good policy then talk about them. Wouldn't that be unique. However, I can never be convinced to not vote in the General Election just because the voters have placed a candidate in contention that I have some problems with. I just might start that myself. (ER: Maybe after football on Sunday, LOL)
HAGD
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We are down to one, right now - the grey. Moved the eclectus to a breeder because she wanted to be a mommy too badly. Before we moved to MS, we had three, but two of them were fosters. And no, I ain't talkin' beer. dammit.
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i317/Eupher6/Pets/DSC_0003_edited-1.jpg)
Of course you aren't talking beer, Eupher, because that would be Fosters! I know, at any given time we have a six-pack or more in the fridge. :cheersmate:
Your grey baby is beautiful!
And as Belle said, getting back to Fundraiser, I have been conned for the last time as well. I dutifully voted for all the RINOs that have inflicted their putrid lies upon those of us who voted in good faith for their promises. McCain and Flake are my senators, as Obama is my president; it's truly difficult to say which one of the three has engendered the most distaste in my bosom. I think we need people who tell it like it is, and that's why of all the candidates I'd rather vote for someone who, while not espousing everything I want to hear, at least embodies TRUTH. Of the insiders running, Cruz is the only one who actually has had the balls to stand up and fight for what he promised his supporters when they voted for him...and my sister in Fort Worth never lets me hear the end of it because unlike me, she can be PROUD of her representation in the Senate. :argh: Any idea how difficult it is for big sister to have to eat crow just because her senators keep their promises as well as Bill Clinton keeps his wedding vows?
I can hold my nose and vote for almost everyone who is currently a nominee, but there are one or two I draw my line in the sand over, and unlike Obama, I will take decisive action, even if it's simply writing in someone else's name. I actually would have respected Romney if he'd shown some backbone during the election instead of apologizing for his money and backing down when Mad Cow Crawley and Obutthead ganged up on him re foreign affairs at that third debate. That's water under the bridge now, but if any of us vote for the R nominee simply because there's an R after the name, well, that's up to each individual and their inner voice and so far, at least the Constitution has not been abrogated to such an extent that we still don't have one vote each.
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All of this may be and in some cases true. I applaud your principle stand. And if we can get the most conservative with the ability to lead us out of this morass then that is wonderful. This is why I am not putting any support behind any candidate until I can see who floats to the top. I am mad as hell but I know I have no control over any of it. First let's us begin to find a way through this forum to talk to our fellow conservatives and push for the candidate that meets this criteria. Who are you for? I can be persuaded because I do not have to make a decision until the NC primary. Let's start a new thread that opens up with the subject - WHO SHOULD WE VOTE FOR IN THE PRIMARIES -. No name calling, emotion or innuendos, Just facts, figures and truths. If a candidate is for amnesty then show where he has supported it. If he or she has a good policy then talk about them. Wouldn't that be unique. However, I can never be convinced to not vote in the General Election just because the voters have placed a candidate in contention that I have some problems with. I just might start that myself. (ER: Maybe after football on Sunday, LOL)
HAGD
Whatever way you want to look at the GOP establishment AKA RINO's is certainly your choice. I refuse to vote for Bush or Christie and perhaps even Rubio who was part of the Gang of 8. Again, WHY should I vote for someone who I think will continue this country on a path to destruction? Just for the sake of party?? That is absolutely ridiculous.
It is very obvious to me that there is little difference between the GOPe and the DEMS -- so why would I vote for either one??
I have never missed voting in a General Election and don't intend to do so this election. But I sure will NOT vote for someone who I don't feel is good for the country.
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All of this may be and in some cases true. I applaud your principle stand. And if we can get the most conservative with the ability to lead us out of this morass then that is wonderful. This is why I am not putting any support behind any candidate until I can see who floats to the top. I am mad as hell but I know I have no control over any of it. First let's us begin to find a way through this forum to talk to our fellow conservatives and push for the candidate that meets this criteria. Who are you for? I can be persuaded because I do not have to make a decision until the NC primary. Let's start a new thread that opens up with the subject - WHO SHOULD WE VOTE FOR IN THE PRIMARIES -. No name calling, emotion or innuendos, Just facts, figures and truths. If a candidate is for amnesty then show where he has supported it. If he or she has a good policy then talk about them. Wouldn't that be unique. However, I can never be convinced to not vote in the General Election just because the voters have placed a candidate in contention that I have some problems with. I just might start that myself. (ER: Maybe after football on Sunday, LOL)
HAGD
I admire your cojones, Marine, but you are mistaken. There is no "we" here, in the sense of "who will we vote for".
Among our Cave brothers and sisters, you will find mainstream party-line Republicans, dyed-in-the-wool social conservatives, social liberal/fiscal conservative types, compassionate conservatives, uncompromising libertarians like me, and even the occasional moonbat (who make great chew toys). As we get close to November 2016, we'll all express our opinions, just as we did in 2012.
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Now this is a better conversation. Let's put the general election to the back burner for the time being. Now those were good points on Cruz. I personally like the non insiders for the time being but Trump really is an ass. However I will not discount anyone at this early stage. Keep the thoughts coming. Who else, and why are you supporting them? Carson is quiet but I do not think he is a milktoast. Anyone that can dig around a brain can surly put together a team of conservatives to lead this country. Even Carley has some good policy points especially foreign. Bush is so inside he has fallen into the DC abyss. Where the heck is Christy who really is a Trump alternative. I don't even remember the names of the rest. HAND
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I think we're at a point in our political system where it just doesn't matter who's in the White House. Oh, sure, that person has power and that person wields that power in differing ways. Barry, for one, has abused his power with one central theme -- Congress has abdicated its own power, essentially handing Barry pretty much everything he's wanted to shove down our throats.
But apart from all that, the lobbyists on K Street and the professional politicians polluting the halls of Congress, and the Chief Statist and Muzzie Sympathizer have all degraded the political system to the point that it really just doesn't matter who's in the WH.
They all get their slice of the pie, some more than others, but in just looking at Hillary's career over the past 40 years, she is a model showcase of just how ****ed up Washington D.C. has been.
It ain't gettin' no betta either.
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Totally agree. But the good news, if there could be such a thing, is that, at least, we do not have to overthrow the govt here we do get to make some changes every two and four years. Now it usually turns out, or at least for the past 15 years, that those in become exactly what you are talking about. I guess I am a optimist on this. (Note: this is a big thing for me because I am a Cubs Fan and they are actually going to get one extra game this year) We try again and again. The worse case scenario, besides Nuke War, is that in time we become a well armed Sweden. Lots of blonds, pot, and a lack luster useless government. Of course I hope to be real dead by that time. LOL HAGD
PS: Going to bed. Us old folks need our sleep and tomorrow is FOOTBALL.
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I held my nose and voted for the republican in the last two presidential elections and to this day myself and others are accused by GOP republicans of voting for obama. Even after being informed of how I voted I still was accused of voting for obama.
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Well "Live Long And Prosper" and do not give a S^$^$ about what people say especially if they don't know what they are talking about, which, by the way is a lot of people I talk to. Especially Liberals. HAND
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another BS given for being preachy.
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Mr. Mannn: Are you always this positive. Why don't you try to convince me not to vote instead of telling me where to get off. If everyone thinks my conversation points are preachy then tell me so. You seem to be the only one who has no real direction. My premise is to get others to vote instead of hiding in their homes. If that is preachy then just change my name to profit instead of fundraiser. Have a Great Day (HAGD)
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Mr. Mannn: Are you always this positive. Why don't you try to convince me not to vote instead of telling me where to get off. If everyone thinks my conversation points are preachy then tell me so. You seem to be the only one who has no real direction. My premise is to get others to vote instead of hiding in their homes. If that is preachy then just change my name to profit instead of fundraiser. Have a Great Day (HAGD)
Not exactly. Your premise was to tell us to vote for the Republican nominee, whoever he is, or you would blame us for the election of the Donk candidate (as you did after the 2012 election). As you said in your first post, and I quote:
It is time for us to GET REAL and, if we really believe that the country is on the wrong track, then get behind whoever is the nominee of the Party and show up at the poles. If you stay home again you will definitely get what you didn’t vote for.
As for being preachy, I agree with Mr. Mannn. Relax, take a load off, light up a cigar, and save the sermons for Sunday morning.
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Ok will do.
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Ok will do.
I would like to know, and I'm not trying to be facetious, why are you asking US our preferences and WHO WE are voting for in the primaries, and WHY. A few people, including myself, have told you who we are voting for and why, but most people haven't decided yet. Some posters here will support any nominee; I am not one of them but I respect everyone's right to choose for himself to whom his vote will fall. I would hope we would ALL respect everyone's right to vote independently. I am not attempting to imply that you don't, although anyone who speaks of voting only for the nominee is more rigid than I chose to be. I am curious as to why, this far away from even the Iowa raucous, umm, caucus, that you keep asking. Just follow your own conscience and heart.
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Good question. When I started this thread I had hoped to begin some discussion back and forth about the political situation as it stands and as it grows with those of similar interests. It is useless to talk with Democrats or Liberals for they are totally emotional and do not care if the facts and truths are with them. It began well but fell into a lot of joking around and little conversation about politics. I tried to bring it back with a discussion of the candidates. I get tons of jokes through facebook. Here I was hoping for something else such as peoples feelings on current events or such. As the thread says "Getting it off our chests" Looking over the other threads in this political area it looks like we are the only ones in a conversation all others are dead. I will remain listening for such discussion and will then put my 2 cents worth into it.
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If we are not good enough for you...just leave.
BS given for being high and mighty.
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another true conservative?
Whatever shall we do?
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/6b/6bbe36f8a6e7bce8e397e6fd97d6a63b09fd52a4a7cd75862f0e6dd64ff5f0c3.jpg)
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Good question. When I started this thread I had hoped to begin some discussion back and forth about the political situation as it stands and as it grows with those of similar interests. It is useless to talk with Democrats or Liberals for they are totally emotional and do not care if the facts and truths are with them. It began well but fell into a lot of joking around and little conversation about politics. I tried to bring it back with a discussion of the candidates. I get tons of jokes through facebook. Here I was hoping for something else such as peoples feelings on current events or such. As the thread says "Getting it off our chests" Looking over the other threads in this political area it looks like we are the only ones in a conversation all others are dead. I will remain listening for such discussion and will then put my 2 cents worth into it.
I love open and honest communication and debate. I gave you my opinion; so I'm not quite sure what it is that you want.
This country is on a path to destruction that is a given. I have strong reasons for my opinion that voting along party lines or voting strictly because you think someone will win, is absolutely wrong and quite frankly one of the reasons that this country is in the mess it is in with a Congress filled with RINO's. During the McCain/Obama primary election, I went before my local Republican Club and even though the majority thought McCain was the greatest thing since sliced bread, and many voted from him for no other reason than they thought he could win, I laid out my reasons as to why NOT to vote for him based on his previous track record. The area that I live in is widely Republican and I was sneered at by the majority in my local club. Interestingly, after McCain lost to Obama in the general election, I then was told by members that they wished they had listened. They wished that they had voted for the candidate that was best qualified rather than who they thought could win. By voting for who they thought would win didn't work. Voting along party lines didn't work either, because many Republicans even at that time were fed up and see McCain as part of the problem not the solution.
I feel that the GOP conservative voters are even more fed up with our current do nothing Congress that has failed to deliver their promises. Voting for a candidate that is part of the GOP establishment will ONLY get you the same results - we will lose and we will lose big. We will lose our party completely. We need true conservative leadership. We need someone who will honor the Constitution. We need someone who has stood up time and time again against the "Washington cartel".
Ted Cruz 2016. Reigniting the Promise of America!
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Yes I agree and it my hope we can come up with a true conservative candidate. Cruz is a very likely prospect. It would be my hope also that we could build a strong third party with conservative republicans, independents and moderate democrats and rid ourselves with the progressive right and left. Now that would be something to see.
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libertybele:
This country is on a path to destruction that is a given. I have strong reasons for my opinion that voting along party lines or voting strictly because you think someone will win, is absolutely wrong and quite frankly one of the reasons that this country is in the mess it is in with a Congress filled with RINO's.
Wish it weren't true, but well said!
On a serious note, I'd be interested to know the definition of a "true conservative candidate."
On a cynical note, & in my humble opinion, most candidates aren't "true" for long. If one may agree that it takes mucho money to run for most elected offices, & the candidates need to seek out "big" money, then one can surmise that this pressure to gather funds has the potential to become a corruptible endeavor. & post-election? Legislation that is driven by cronyism & K-street.
I think Cruz is a cut above most of the candidates. But, as in anything there's always a "but":
- he has some billionaire donors
Cruz's donors (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/416643/meet-ted-cruzs-billionaire-donors-eliana-johnson)
- he was for ObamaTrade before he was against it. FYI, the final 11 Pacific job killing American deal has been reached. Clinton gave us NAFTA, & O gave us TPP with alot of help from the liberal R's.
US job killer (http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/deal-reached-on-pacific-rim-trade-pact/2015/10/05/7c567f00-6b56-11e5-b31c-d80d62b53e28_story.html)
- Not too sure about this one as a conflict of interest. Mrs. Cruz is a Goldman Sachs V.P. in Texas. She was a Bush economic advisor, & referred to as proficient in global trade transactions.
- Cruz is a supporter of increasing H-1B visas.
H-1B visas (http://www.computerworld.com/article/2900126/ted-cruz-the-presidential-candidate-who-wants-to-increase-the-h-1b-cap-by-500.html)
@ this juncture, the only one I would vote for is Trump. If he does the 1 thing he promised, & that is to close the borders, that would be a major accomplishment. Also, as yet, he hasn't been bought & paid for. True, he has the entertainment factor, but he's very intelligent &, I do believe he is proud to be an American. Imagine that, a President that wouldn't go on an apology tour. But my favorite thing is, he's never been a politician!
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You have hit the high note. Like the old game show "Who Do You Trust". In this case who can you trust. You really never know their motives. Nice article on the H-1B Cap. A little knowledge goes a long way. Trump is not dead to me either but I sure wish he would cut out the school yard vernacular. I have not idea what a serious conservative candidate really is. Never met one except for RR but he is dead. And even he got back stabbed by the Demos. I know it is not liked in this forum but I still come back to my original thought. I would vote for my left shoe over any Democrat candidate. The last one I liked was Jack Kennedy who I served under in the Cuban Crisis. And I did not even vote for him. We have plenty of time to ferret out who is real and who is not. What do you think about Carly Fiorina or Ben Carson? HAGD
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Hey, Fundraiser:
In my opinion, Fiorina is a GOPe wannabe.
http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/08/carly-fiorina-is-no-conservative-candidate/
Ben Carson, great guy, very intelligent; his politics demonstrate to me that he is weak on immigration; I'd still vote for him if he were the nominee. http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/09/ben_carson_supports_citizenship_for_illegal_aliens.html
These non-GOPe candidates have mountains to climb. The largest hurdle I see is getting past the Priebus/Rove wall. Next one is not getting torn down by the liberal/GOPe (Faux) media. & does anyone know why in the world they're accepting to go to "debates" (which really aren't debates) conducted by liberal outlets? Didn't they learn anything after the last (2) presidential debate cycles? Oops, I just answered my own question. Faux news has been liberalized for some time.
Loved JFK. I was in Mr. Brawley's science class when they announced his assassination. I unashamedly put my head down on my desk & cried inconsolably. Voted for RR. He was a great President. Great communicator, ended the cold war & helped create 16 million new jobs. As with anyone, he had his faults. Gave us our first round of amnesty in '86. I give him credit for calling it amnesty, & not comprehensive immigration reform. & he was in office when so many families lost their farms.
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libertybele:
Wish it weren't true, but well said!
On a serious note, I'd be interested to know the definition of a "true conservative candidate."
On a cynical note, & in my humble opinion, most candidates aren't "true" for long. If one may agree that it takes mucho money to run for most elected offices, & the candidates need to seek out "big" money, then one can surmise that this pressure to gather funds has the potential to become a corruptible endeavor. & post-election? Legislation that is driven by cronyism & K-street.
I think Cruz is a cut above most of the candidates. But, as in anything there's always a "but":
- he has some billionaire donors
Cruz's donors (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/416643/meet-ted-cruzs-billionaire-donors-eliana-johnson)
- he was for ObamaTrade before he was against it. FYI, the final 11 Pacific job killing American deal has been reached. Clinton gave us NAFTA, & O gave us TPP with alot of help from the liberal R's.
US job killer (http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/deal-reached-on-pacific-rim-trade-pact/2015/10/05/7c567f00-6b56-11e5-b31c-d80d62b53e28_story.html)
- Not too sure about this one as a conflict of interest. Mrs. Cruz is a Goldman Sachs V.P. in Texas. She was a Bush economic advisor, & referred to as proficient in global trade transactions.
- Cruz is a supporter of increasing H-1B visas.
H-1B visas (http://www.computerworld.com/article/2900126/ted-cruz-the-presidential-candidate-who-wants-to-increase-the-h-1b-cap-by-500.html)
@ this juncture, the only one I would vote for is Trump. If he does the 1 thing he promised, & that is to close the borders, that would be a major accomplishment. Also, as yet, he hasn't been bought & paid for. True, he has the entertainment factor, but he's very intelligent &, I do believe he is proud to be an American. Imagine that, a President that wouldn't go on an apology tour. But my favorite thing is, he's never been a politician!
Good grief. You can't get much more conservative than Cruz; yet you'd vote for Trump?? Ted Cruz has raised more "hard money" (money NOT by big money) that any other GOP candidate. You are entitled to your opinion, but I would encourage you to do a little more research on Cruz rather than go by some "liberal" slanted article and I highly recommend that you read his book "A Time For Truth"; it is available at the library. His background, his education, his accomplishment and how he got to the Senate is absolutely fascinating - I read the book in two days. I couldn't put it down.
https://www.conservativereview.com/2016-Presidential-Candidates
http://www.ontheissues.org/Donald_Trump.htm
http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Ted_Cruz.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaWgFoVI4JU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aimgwzV-77U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHhwk5eQwyM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uunhvtMOjbI
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Good post, libertybele; I'll check out your links tomorrow.
Trump sure has tapped into my political angst. I do believe without him, candidates wouldn't be talking about the waves of immigrants coming in. & I do believe he'd close the borders.
My sister & I (who is also a Trump supporter); we had a long political talk this PM. What if Trump doesn't get the nomination? We're both steadfast this time (she also voted for McCain & Romney) about no more rino votes.
Here's Andrew McCarthy (of the Corker articles fame) who wrote about 3 candidates last month:
http://therightscoop.com/andrew-mccarthy-on-the-debate-last-night-ted-cruz-is-my-favorite-candidate-but/
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Good post, libertybele; I'll check out your links tomorrow.
Trump sure has tapped into my political angst. I do believe without him, candidates wouldn't be talking about the waves of immigrants coming in. & I do believe he'd close the borders.
My sister & I (who is also a Trump supporter); we had a long political talk this PM. What if Trump doesn't get the nomination? We're both steadfast this time (she also voted for McCain & Romney) about no more rino votes.
Here's Andrew McCarthy (of the Corker articles fame) who wrote about 3 candidates last month:
http://therightscoop.com/andrew-mccarthy-on-the-debate-last-night-ted-cruz-is-my-favorite-candidate-but/
My two cents here for what it's worth. The huge attraction of course for Carson, Trump and Fiorina is their lack of political experience. While I too am sickened by the actions of the Washington cartel/RINO's, I feel the lack of political experience warrants some consideration. The positive of course is that they haven't been bought by Washington. But perhaps more importantly, if we reflect back on Obama's election two huge issues stand out to me; his lack of political experience and his strong speeches. It seems that the majority didn't do a shred of research on him or they ignored the obvious. Research would have shown his push for his Global Poverty Act S. 2433 (small arms treaty, UN mandates, redistribution of wealth); though his bill failed in the Senate he is now fulfilling that agenda. He was able to sell himself as not being a Washington insider with fresh ideas and through powerful speeches was able to tap into liberal "issues" at the time while making promises of change. I see Trump, Carson and Fiorina doing the same. All three have been able to sell to the public that they are outsiders while tapping into conservative "issues". The one difference from Obama is none of them have any political experience or a voting record to check against. We can only take what they are saying at face value and judge by their past actions. Trump and Fiorina in the business world and Carson in the medical field. With Carson there is absolutely nothing at all to judge him by. He is a neurosurgeon and he talks conservative. But really, what else do we know about him?
I do see a lot of positive in Trump and he certainly has excited the voting base. I am skeptical because of his lack of political experience. I am skeptical because of his personal attacks which I see as non-presidential. Specifically his attacks on Meghan Kelley and most recently Rubio. Trump delivered a 24-bottle care package with the label “Trump Ice Natural Spring Water - the bottled water was sent to the Rubio campaign’s Washington office along with two towels with the “Make America Great Again†Trump campaign slogan, and a note that said “Since you’re always sweating, we thought you could use some water. Enjoy!†During an appearance in SC Trump stated "“Rubio, I’ve never seen a young guy sweat that much" ... “He’s drinking water, water, water, I never saw anything like this with him with the water.†Really Donald, Really?
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You have hit the high note. Like the old game show "Who Do You Trust". In this case who can you trust. You really never know their motives. Nice article on the H-1B Cap. A little knowledge goes a long way. Trump is not dead to me either but I sure wish he would cut out the school yard vernacular. I have not idea what a serious conservative candidate really is. Never met one except for RR but he is dead. And even he got back stabbed by the Demos. I know it is not liked in this forum but I still come back to my original thought. I would vote for my left shoe over any Democrat candidate. The last one I liked was Jack Kennedy who I served under in the Cuban Crisis. And I did not even vote for him. We have plenty of time to ferret out who is real and who is not. What do you think about Carly Fiorina or Ben Carson? HAGD
I'd like to see a Trump/Cruz or even better a Trump/Carson ticket. Carson is a soft spoken polite guy, very intelligent, who is also what alot of people would see as a true conservative. Trump is loud mouthed and a bull in a china shop; I personally think that sometimes when things are broken it takes a bull to break the china so we can rebuild. And as he said, he's a builder. He's also very smart, and he knows how the system of politics is played since he's been on the donor side for both parties for a long time now. We don't need idealism at this point, not when the country's in the toilet and the socialists and commies running the dim party are ready to flush for the second time to make sure it's ALL gone.
Okay, Trump is obviously not very religious, he's a social moderate or liberal, but that pretty much sums up alot of the American populace. I couldn't even begin to tell you how many conversations I have had over the decades with people in both parties who have expressed frustration with the platforms of the two. For many Republicans, the law and order aspect, respect for authority and unborn life, all is good but the zealotry of the religious right can be overwhelming...it's TOO judgmental and alienates many. For the Democrats, while they like the social freedoms espoused by their party (although many believe the radical elements go way too far and are as zealous on the other side of the issues as the right), they are totally dismayed by the lack of respect for the military, police, the gun control ideologues, the illegal criminals crossing our southern border...for all of them, Trump represents a distillation of what is best in their view, and mine, of both parties.
Obviously, I think the good parts of the Republican party outweigh the negative, but when our so-called leaders begin behaving and voting in sync with their Dem counterparts, the lines blur to the point of uselessness. And so, since there's no clear cut distinction between a Jeb! :whatever: or a Shrillary :bird: I'll take someone who espouses the best of both parties (minimal as the Dem side's contribution is) and vote for someone who, if elected, will be able to do things like get that pipeline up and running, lock down on the flow of illegals, strengthen the military, keep the Chinese from, as he put it "eating our lunch", etc. He sure as hell won't owe his election, should he get to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, to the billionaire and millionaire donors or any special interest group or groups; he will owe it to the millions and millions of ordinary Americans who are beyond sick and tired to death of all the p.c. bullshit, LIES, mounting debt, staggering regulations and all the other excrement that has rolled down from the greedy, grasping and unpatriotic in many cases, dregs of human flotsam that morons have elected over and over in various districts and states because there's some lagniappe in it for them. Those voters and the would be political despots have one major thing in common: both groups benefit immensely from the sweat of their brow labor of decent, ordinary, hard-working (and thus despised) American man and woman.
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Hi 5 - "In my opinion, Fiorina is a GOPe wannabe." I couldn't agree more. Fiorina hasn't been exactly honest and laid off thousands of workers while she amassed wealth -- millions of dollars and several yachts. I don't trust her. Carly is out for Carly and Carly only. She could care less about anyone else; including the American public.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3156767/White-House-hopeful-Carly-Fiorina-s-claims-motherhood-secretary-CEO-rise-fire-ex-husband-ridicules-calculating-tragic-stepdaughter-s-mom-says.html
http://radio.foxnews.com/2015/10/02/laguens-carly-fiorinas-lies-will-lead-to-her-downfall/
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Ok I know I will get kickback from this but. The Daily Mail and the Allan Combs show as examples of non-biased reporting? I am not necessarily a Fiorina fan but as someone told me here that I was commenting from a Demo site once. All politicians have bad and good points. She was a director of a Fortune 200 Company. All of their salaries are big and the retirement packages heavy. If she does what she says she will do then ok. So far none of our candidates have been caught in a BIG LIE. Not like Hillery. So far it is all sniping. She did layoff workers and having worked for a large not for profit hospital I have seen layoffs for the sake of cost cutting. Her company was in business to make money. I have heard that some candidates are dropping hints about here so they can move up. It is a brutal game and we have just begun. HAGD
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A lie is a LIE period. She makes claims that are inaccurate at best (such as the PP video). I find it hard to believe that she would make a claim without fully researching whether or not it is bogus. She also lied about being a Mom. Carly is a stepmom. She has no biological children.
Carly has stated that she was a mere secretary when she started out and rose in the ranks to a CEO, but the truth of the matter is she was a secretary living at home during the summers while attending Stanford University, as a temp for the Kelly Girl agency. Her parents didn't struggle financially and so she was not the average woman trying to make ends meet as she claims. She didn't finish law school at UCLA and went on to obtain a Masters in Business. In 1980 she started out as a business manager trainee for AT&T (hardly a secretary). Yes she did quickly rise through the ranks. It is one thing to lay off workers for the "good of the company", but to lay off workers while you make millions and line your pockets well enough to purchase several yachts (most people can't even afford one) is despicable.
So let's see ... she's lied about her personal life and her business life. Carly knows how to "market" and she markets herself well. I don't trust her and don't feel we need another liar in charge.
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There's a lot of whoopin' and hollerin' about these high-brow folks and their lies.
Let's cut to the chase.
Anybody who aspires to be president of the U.S. is automatically suspect. I suspect they're narcissistic, egomaniacal, and probably difficult to wake up next to in the morning (in the case of Carly -- Homie don't do dudes :-) ). They're power-mad and more than capable of stabbing you in the back if you get in their way.
I lump all politicians in this group, except for the amateur politicians -- you know, the ones that go home after their tour of service is complete.
So let's be real about the Carlys and the Teds and the Hillarys -- they're all cut from the same cloth. Anybody who "trusts" any one of these "people" to tell the truth 100% of the time and not to bend the truth ever so slightly to paint a different story than the facts indicate has been exploring Naïve Island again.
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Eupher: Agree. So now Carly is now put to rest until after the first two primaries. Who is next? Since I have not chosen anyone to be for until then I will be listening to you all. I get my truths and lies mostly from Fox News even though they lean right the regular reporting is seemingly balanced. The commentary from Lou Dobbs, Hannity, Kelly, and the bloated 5 are far right. I do tape the shows so I miss the adds. The regular news throughout the day and at 6 with Bret Bare, Cavoto and Bill O'Riley are my favorites. Blogs are for those of you younger than 50 for they are usually slanted. The two I do not watch as much are Cavoto, can't stand his interview technique and the 5. It is totally unbalanced with one liberal and 4 right wingers. HAGD
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Eupher: Agree. So now Carly is now put to rest until after the first two primaries. Who is next? Since I have not chosen anyone to be for until then I will be listening to you all. I get my truths and lies mostly from Fox News even though they lean right the regular reporting is seemingly balanced. The commentary from Lou Dobbs, Hannity, Kelly, and the bloated 5 are far right. I do tape the shows so I miss the adds. The regular news throughout the day and at 6 with Bret Bare, Cavoto and Bill O'Riley are my favorites. Blogs are for those of you younger than 50 for they are usually slanted. The two I do not watch as much are Cavoto, can't stand his interview technique and the 5. It is totally unbalanced with one liberal and 4 right wingers. HAGD
I heard a rumor that there is a takes-no-prisoners common tater on the ray-de-oh, out in America's heartland, with an uncompromising dedication to liberty. A real Straight Talker.
:thor:
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I can't seem to click on your straight talk logo. Can you give me the www for the sight.
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I can't seem to click on your straight talk logo. Can you give me the www for the sight.
It's not a clickable link.
Go to salinapost.com, and select "podcasts" at the top of the page. Click on "Straight Talk", and it will take you to the achived episodes.
If you want to listen live, click on the "910 KINA" icon between 8-10 PM Central time M-F.
For more information, click here: http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=99686
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Eupher: Agree. So now Carly is now put to rest until after the first two primaries. Who is next? Since I have not chosen anyone to be for until then I will be listening to you all. I get my truths and lies mostly from Fox News even though they lean right the regular reporting is seemingly balanced. The commentary from Lou Dobbs, Hannity, Kelly, and the bloated 5 are far right. I do tape the shows so I miss the adds. The regular news throughout the day and at 6 with Bret Bare, Cavoto and Bill O'Riley are my favorites. Blogs are for those of you younger than 50 for they are usually slanted. The two I do not watch as much are Cavoto, can't stand his interview technique and the 5. It is totally unbalanced with one liberal and 4 right wingers. HAGD
I just don't do television at all any more. No Fox news, no PMSNBC, no CNN, none of the lies that come out of all of those "outlets." For them, it's all about money. That's why you see the Fox babes and the CNN babes and the PMSNBC dykes and faggots.
I get my news from the web. Oh, and when I can, from that ray-de-oh common tater that's got a very handsome pup named Velvet. :-)
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Go Cubs. As an old Chicago Boy I got the best gift I could have received tonight with our first playoff win in years. On to St Louis. :yahoo: :rofl: :lmao:
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I always try to listen in when Mark Steyn's on radio.
He talked about Ted Cruz, whom I'm more aware of his intelligence & articulation.
Check out the attached video with Aaron Mair, President of the Sierra Club. Cruz clearly had the upper hand as they discussed global warming. Cruz had the facts; Mair needed a little help from his friends.
I blow hot and cold on Ted Cruz the candidate, because he doesn't have that schtick down. He was quiet in the last debate. But when he's in tenacious, relentless prosecutor mode, it's a thing of beauty. I would love to watch Ted Cruz go back and forth with Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders or Joe Biden.
http://www.steynonline.com/7219/the-97-per-cent-standard-response-from-big-climate
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Wow- Now that was impressive. He ate the Sierra Club President a new one. Too bad this kind of stuff does not reach the general public.
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A classic example of the Big Man On Campus not having done his homework before he shows up to the oral exams, fully expecting not much more than softballs and bowing and genuflecting at BMOC's greatness.
Kinda like showing up to a gunfight with a knife, or a pair of scissors.
Dumb****. :whatever: