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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on July 25, 2008, 12:29:10 AM
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Oh my.
But the funniest comment by a primitive is near the end of this bonfire.
live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-24-08 09:55 PM
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Air America has been watered down
That's the best way I can find to describe the boring schedule of programs on their current lineup.
They used to have show hosts who were entertaining and colorful--like Randi, Jeaneane, Sam, Mike... Now there's shows like David Bender (zZZZzZzzzZZZZZ), Family Values with an Oy Vey (totally lame) and shows on things like organic gardening :wtf: during prime time and weekends when people like me have time to catch up and are available to hear the news that the corporate media is already suppressing.
What I find even more upsetting is that during evening drive time, Rachel Maddow's first hour is spent interacting with MSNBC hosts who spew nothing but right wing talk points and bullshit (IMHO) while Fox-esque sound effects like whooshes and the like are played in the background as the comments move from one host to the other. I usually have to end up turning her show off within five minutes of hearing this utter crap. My only struggle now is to remember not to turn it on at all in the first place.
During morning drive time I hear Bill Press followed by Stephanie Miller. Bill Press is pretty dry. I love Stephanie Miller for the record. She's funny and she still gets the new out amid the jokes.
I have been saying since they got right of Malloy that Air America has a death wish. Seeing what they have become now, I think that the death has occurred and the right's point will be proven--that people don't want liberal radio. Of course, people like me are starving for liberal radio but if the crumbs I am getting from Air America are "it", then I will settle for nothing.
Also, if you look at the way BushCo has replaced competence with incompetence at all levels of government there is a resemblance to what has happened at Air America. While the hosts that are in the current line ups are competent, they are not the right people to carry prime time shows and the ratings of an already fledgling network. It makes me wonder if sabotage is the reason for the decline. All I know is, once again I am sad and disappointed that I cannot readily get information in my country about my country.
I don't know radio personalities; perhaps some of these names might ring a bell with someone.
It's sort of like that Pete Camejo guy or Thom Hartman guy Doug's ex-wife is always getting tumescent over; one's a small-time radio guy, and the other's a small-time fringe California politician, but I can't ever remember which is which.
burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-24-08 09:58 PM
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1. You don't think David "Karl can I hump your leg" Gregory is a liberal?
Seriously, I cannot stand that tool.
live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-24-08 10:01 PM
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2. "Tool" is the right word. David Gregory is just another whore like so many that I have unfortunately come to see on the air.
in search of sanity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-24-08 10:02 PM
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3. I agree, regretfully
Air America's flagship station is 1600 Am in New York and they recently replaced Thom Hartmann with Ed Schultz. Thom is without a doubt progressive, super smart and has great guests, including Sen. Bernie Sanders. Ed is more middle of the road and is so NOT New York. I don't understand why they put him on -- he's not even Air America while Thom is.
undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-24-08 10:12 PM
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7. Fortunately my affiliate carries both Hartmann and Maddow who are the best. They've also added back Mike Malloy. He and Stephanie Miller are not Air America but they have both been kept by the affiliate because they are popular. We also have Ed Schultz, who I'm not wild about, but I figure he reaches people the others don't.
ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-24-08 10:23 PM
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12. You're right
Hartmann and Maddow are the only things left on Air America to get excited about. They've lost so much good talent.
I also agree on Ed Schultz, he's not especially insightful or funny but I figure he's great for appealing to more conservative dems or those who aren't sure where they fit in politically (much better to have them listen to Ed than Limbaugh).
Obviously my favorite progressive show is The Young Turks, who are actually streamed on Air America again even though their radio show is on XM 167 (Stephanie Miller is also on XM 167 now).
OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-24-08 11:22 PM
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22. Agreed.
I love Cenk....Why can't he have his own television show?
undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-24-08 11:34 PM
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23. We had them in the early morning for awhile
but let me tell you the best thing about our Air America affiliate- we have a great local guy (Lee Rayburn - sometimes he subs for the national shows) for 2 hours every morning. Since this is uber liberal Madison and there are lots of activists and people to have on the show we get our own version of Local Air America radio. All the candidates and politicians get interviewed and the activists do too. Radio at its best.
live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-24-08 10:13 PM
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9. Your name says it all--in search of sanity. Sounds like New York and Chicago are getting the same kind of programming which probably means it's the same way all over the country.
Seems like we were lured in and then they did a bait-and-switch routine.
Hmmmm.
"Bait-and-switch"--isn't that something Barry "Goldwater" Obama's going to be doing to the primitives sometime the next several weeks? You heard it here first.
sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-24-08 10:25 PM
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13. Bob Kincaid is the man, he's a lot like Malloy in the ass whippins' he hands out
BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-24-08 10:07 PM
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6. I used to listen almost 24/7. Had every radio tuned to it. I stopped listening when they killed the Marc Maron morning show.
irkthesmirk (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-24-08 10:12 PM
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8. IMO, EVERY decision that Bob Greene has made in the past year has been wrong
Thom Hartmann is the only person I listen to on AAR anymore and I get him through NovaM (KPHX). Rachel Maddow ran me off with RTTWH and, while I support her getting MUCH more exposure, I will not sit through an hour of David Gregory and his fellow hacks. I found Stacy Taylor at www.sandiego1700.com and I listen to him now instead of Rachel. He's just as entertaining and a bit edgier. AAR could close up tomorrow and I wouldn't miss them a bit. It's really sad when you think of the level of hope that they represented when they first came on the air. And Bill Press sucks ass, BTW.
Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-24-08 10:17 PM
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10. Maddow's 1st hour doesn't even have Maddow
Instead, it's David Gregory gushing over the latest Republican talking points in an "objective" manner.
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-24-08 10:36 PM
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15. I would say the water has passed through Mark Green's bladder and has become the urine he pisses on his radio station.
defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-24-08 10:47 PM
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19. Actually I think it's much, much more . . .
They were trying to kill Air America from the very first . . .
and I think your description of what's going on there couldn't be done better --- !!!
I think we have to look back at how exciting Randi Rhodes was and how successful she was on Air America --- how many people she was waking up ----
and then, suddenly, she has an accident ----
and then a short time later she's kind of set up for a comedy skit which is heavily publicized and -- poof! -- she's out of Air America ---
I think some people have been MAINLY interested in getting rid of Randi Rhodes where people could hear her best -- on Air America ---
and also Sam Seder and others who were actually getting the info out ---
Bless Randi Rhodes and I'm thrilled she is OK and at NOVA --- but I can't listen to her much of the time --- cause I'm often in my car!
And -- granted a lot of people have Satellite radio --- I don't --- and a lot of people don't . . .
It makes me wonder if sabotage is the reason for the decline. All I know is, once again I am sad and disappointed that I cannot readily get information in my country about my country.
Me, too ---
Randi was knocking the GOP and Rush to all hell ---
live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-24-08 10:56 PM
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20. It's almost like Randi and the other good hosts were lures and now that AAR has an audience
they have done away with them and we are not supposed to notice now that we have tuned in or leave, or they are expect to lose a few of us, but they are counting on the unsuspecting people who think that are actually getting liberal news to carry them...and they are probably right, those people probably will stay.
And here's the primitive funny:
defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Jul-25-08 12:05 AM
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24. Randi Rhodes became enormously popular . . . killing Rush . . .
telling America what is really going on --- and being listened to!
I would think most listeners dropped off ---
Lionel? they finally let him go --- but only after he killed most of the audience ---
Should we believe these people are that dumb?
Or does this all serve another purpose?
In order for the right-wing to stay in power they have to ensure that there is NO challenge to them. Every bit of truth or info that sparks thinking is dangerous for them.
And they have to protect RUSH ....
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I think we have to look back at how exciting Randi Rhodes was and how successful she was on Air America --- how many people she was waking up ----
and then, suddenly, she has an accident ----
and then a short time later she's kind of set up for a comedy skit which is heavily publicized and -- poof! -- she's out of Air America ---
Accident = falling down drunk? And then claiming some agent of the bogeyman beat her up...until witnesses said otherwise?
Set up = Doing a monologue that involves calling Clinton a "whore" several times? And then claiming that it was some GOP trick?
Are these people that deluded? Or, are lies the only thing they cling on to?
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Killing Rush? :rotf:
Rush Limbaugh is THE Gold Standard in talk radio. Even his closest competitors (O'Reilly, Hannity, Beck, Ingraham) aren't even close to de-throning him.........it'll be a cold day in hell before a moonbat does.
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irkthesmirk (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-24-08 10:12 PM
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8. IMO, EVERY decision that Bob Greene has made in the past year has been wrong
Anyone want to take a bet that the Err Amerika bottom line doesn't look like the St. Valentines Day Massacre though?
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I hate to help the DUmmies out but here goes anyway: Outsource ERR AMERICA to India, cheap non-union labor and you still can't understand WTH they're talking about.
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I hate to help the DUmmies out but here goes anyway: Outsource ERR AMERICA to India, cheap non-union labor and you still can't understand WTH they're talking about.
But, once the Indian governament found out that you still couldn't make money, they'd drop it, too.
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I hate to help the DUmmies out but here goes anyway: Outsource ERR AMERICA to India, cheap non-union labor and you still can't understand WTH they're talking about.
But, once the Indian governament found out that you still couldn't make money, they'd drop it, too.
True!.....so I guess China will be their last resort.
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24. Randi Rhodes became enormously popular . . . killing Rush . . .
Does this just not sum up the DUmp in all its . . . glory?
Strawberry Alarm Clock became enormously popular . . . killing The Beatles . . .
Shasta Root Beer became enormously popular . . . killing Coca-Cola . . .
Just say it! It doesn't matter if it is the most stupid thing ever uttered . . . the message is more important than the truth.
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Shasta Root Beer became enormously popular . . . killing Coca-Cola . . .
Damn - Shasta root beer. That shit was a nickel a can back in the days when you needed an opener to open the can.
Of course nothing could beat a Hires root beer - back in the days.
Oh, sorry, this is a DUmmy thread:
A DUmmy can not grasp the importance of a good root beer.
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ihavenobias
You're right
Hartmann and Maddow are the only things left on Air America to get excited about.
As is expected, if this is true then it's just another way of saying that liberals like their radio talk show hosts to tell them the lies they want to hear, because virtually every time I've heard either of these two on the radio, it's so easy to pick out the lies they tell it's not even a challenge.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-24-08 10:47 PM
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19. Actually I think it's much, much more . . .
They were trying to kill Air America from the very first . . .
Who? If you mean the mental cripples that were "running" it, then you and I could agree on at least one thing.
I think we have to look back at how exciting Randi Rhodes was and how successful she was on Air America --- how many people she was waking up ----
If I had to listen to that harpy's voice, I would wake up, too. Probably diving for cover and locating my sidearm......
and then, suddenly, she has an accident ----
Since when is getting shitty drunk and falling on your face an "accident"?
and then a short time later she's kind of set up for a comedy skit which is heavily publicized and -- poof! -- she's out of Air America ---
DUmmie, what you call a "set up", I call being herself.
Bless Randi Rhodes and I'm thrilled she is OK and at NOVA --- but I can't listen to her much of the time --- cause I'm often in my car!
You have a car? And can afford gas? In the middle of this horrible * recession? :o :whatever:
And -- granted a lot of people have Satellite radio --- I don't --- and a lot of people don't . . .
Maybe Senator Hussein will shake down the tax payers so you can get one. Then again, he doesn't give a shit about you, either. :-)
It makes me wonder if sabotage is the reason for the decline. All I know is, once again I am sad and disappointed that I cannot readily get information in my country about my country.
Try going reading some history books in the library instead of surfing DU and porn, DUmbass.
Randi was knocking the GOP and Rush to all hell ---
Now that is a special kind of stupid. The kind that cupsize couldn't overcome.
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Does anyone know what "comedy skit" they are talking about?
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Does anyone know what "comedy skit" they are talking about?
I believe it was her crass comments about Her Thighness that got her suspended.
Air America Radio, which already has enough problems, suspended afternoon host Randi Rhodes Thursday for remarks she made during an off-the-air public event in San Francisco.
Rhodes called Democratic Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton a "f------ whore," several times, in the course of a standup comedy routine built on political bits.
Her specific problem with Clinton, said Rhodes in the routine, is that she's disingenuous: "Her deal is, 'Read the fine print, a-------.' "
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/04/03/2008-04-03_air_americas_randi_rhodes_suspended.html
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They don't like Air America? They can form their own online radio show. FR does that.