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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Carl on September 18, 2015, 07:40:36 PM
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Fri Sep 18, 2015, 02:21 PM
KamaAina (65,914 posts)
Emanuel to ask residents to pay $9.50 monthly Chicago garbage bill?
http://wgntv.com/2015/09/18/best-guess-a-9-50-monthly-chicago-garbage-bill/
It appears Mayor Rahm Emanuel will ask Chicago residents to pay $9.50 a month to have their garbage hauled away.
Free garbage pickup would end under the mayor’s plan to help balance the city budget.
City hall won’t confirm the $9.50 figure, but one source within the Emanuel administration says the garbage fee definitely won’t be any higher than $11.00 a month.
It would be part of each homeowner’s bi-monthly water bill.
How very Republican of him.
Socialism isn`t cheap,pay up mutts.
Brought this over for this exchange.
Response to KamaAina (Original post)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 04:00 PM
Star Member valerief (46,724 posts)
26. Just what the privatizers want. Wonder how much they'll have to pay for the fire dept. nt
Response to valerief (Reply #26)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 04:12 PM
Rex (55,774 posts)
36. I'm worried that Chi town is going to go the way of Detroit. nt
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Response to Rex (Reply #36)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 04:15 PM
Star Member valerief (46,724 posts)
37. If we don't get Republicans out of our govt, it'll be every city in the nation. nt
Response to valerief (Reply #37)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 04:18 PM
Rex (55,774 posts)
38. Very depressing but the absolute truth, they are all self-destructing and taking us with them. nt
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You make idiots laugh at you Rex.
Response to valerief (Reply #37)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 04:51 PM
Throd (6,201 posts)
45. Chicago and Detroit are Republican bastions.
Who knew?
Response to valerief (Reply #37)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 06:08 PM
Travis_0004 (3,356 posts)
50. Chicago hasnt had a republican mayor in over 80 years
Their city council is 49 democrats, 1 republican.
I dont think you could find a republican with a seach warrant in the city of Chicago.
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Rolex randy trying to prove he is not a wealthy straight white guy.
Response to KamaAina (Original post)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 06:11 PM
randys1 (10,035 posts)
52. Free? Should be but isnt most places. see how they get us used to paying for shit
that we shouldnt have to pay for.
Tax money should do it.
And water and healthcare and education and internet access.
:yawn:
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Meh, just dump the garbage at Mopinko's place. Nobody will notice the difference.
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Response to valerief (Reply #26)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 04:12 PM
Rex (55,774 posts)
36. I'm worried that Chi town is going to go the way of Detroit. nt
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Look dummie... Chicago has already gone the way of detroit... it just isn't as far along yet. It will get there at some point in the future. The only question is when.
I find it funny that when the dummies are asked to pay for city provided services they bitch.
As for the dummie whining... well little girl, would you like to haul off your refuse yourself? That is what you tell us when we bitch about taxes and fees. Embrace the liberal suck!!!!
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Rolex randy trying to prove he is not a wealthy straight white guy.
:yawn:
I wonder which "tax money" he's alluding to. Property taxes? Gas taxes? Income taxes? Sales taxes? Sin taxes? Which one is it?
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Meh, just dump the garbage at Mopinko's place. Nobody will notice the difference.
I'm reminded of the 'garbage stike' episode of "Monk".
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I wonder which "tax money" he's alluding to. Property taxes? Gas taxes? Income taxes? Sales taxes? Sin taxes? Which one is it?
The ones everyone else is supposed to pay.
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The ones everyone else is supposed to pay.
There's a Rolex tax?
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Meh, just dump the garbage at Mopinko's place. Nobody will notice the difference.
:-) :-)
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Response to valerief (Reply #37)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 04:51 PM
Throd (6,201 posts)
45. Chicago and Detroit are Republican bastions.
Who knew?
Say what????????????????????
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It's worth $9.50 a month.
(http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/340/36a/46c/resized/evil-plotting-raccoon-meme-generator-easily-frightened-woman-taking-out-the-trash-guess-where-i-m-hiding-774d69.jpg)
Just ask Aerows.
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I wonder which "tax money" he's alluding to. Property taxes? Gas taxes? Income taxes? Sales taxes? Sin taxes? Which one is it?
You can't tax the ghetto rats who live off welfare, live in section 8 housing, and buy everything with food stamps...
(everything they don't steal that is)
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Free garbage removal is a basic human right.
As an added bonus free garbage removal is stifling interest rate increases...
The business press just can't understand why the Federal Reserve decided not to raise interest rates on Thursday.
After all, these alleged journalists have been telling us for months bordering on years that U.S. economy is really in good shape.
So it should be able to handle a rate hike, especially after over seven years of rates at essentially zero.
The problem is that they now believe their own bogus blather.
The U.S. economy is not in good shape, and data seen during the past several weeks show that the situation is deteriorating, not improving.
Excerpts from an early Friday report at the Associated Press by Josh Boak illustrate how out of touch the business press really is (bolds and numbered tags are mine):
WHAT THE FEDERAL RESERVE WANTS TO SEE BEFORE RAISING RATES
So what will it take for the Federal Reserve to finally raise interest rates?
The U.S. economy is now in its seventh straight year of expansion.
It's growing at a steady if unexciting 2.2 percent annual rate. [1]
Unemployment has sunk from a 10 percent peak to a reassuring 5.1 percent. [2]
Auto and home sales have accelerated. [3]
Yet on Thursday, Fed officials declined to lift rates from record lows.
The decision left some Fed watchers mystified over what the central bank needs to see to begin phasing out a policy it launched in 2008 to help save a collapsing economy. ...
... The doubts remain so severe that the Fed appears to consider even a mild rate hike
- one that many economists say will barely affect most Americans
- a step too far.
Yellen signaled some concern Thursday about China's slowdown and volatile financial markets. [4]
But many economists say the Fed is paying particular attention to three key gauges in weighing whether to raise rates. [5]
They say the Fed needs to see:
- A STABLE DOLLAR
... - STEADY OIL PRICES
... - AN EVEN STRONGER JOB MARKET [6]
Notes:
[1] — When it comes to measuring expansion, winning streaks are not measured in calendar years.
They're measured at the very least in quarters.
Back in the 1960s during the Kennedy and Johnson administrations, they were typically measured in months.
Using a quarters-based metric, the economic expansion has not been continuous, and the press needs to stop pretending that it has been.
The economy shrank at an annualized rate of 1.5 percent in the first quarter of 2011, and contracted by 0.9 percent in the first quarter of 2014.
The current positive winning streak is therefore five quarters — from 2Q14 to 2Q15.
[2] — The unemployment rate is only reassuring if you believe that every one of the 94 million Americans described as "not in the labor force" isn't looking for work.
If they are looking for work, even if not particularly aggressively, they should be included among the unemployed.
There is reason to believe that the government has made the benchmarks for what qualifies as "looking for work" tougher since Dear Leader took office.
If as few as 5 million of that group of 94 million is genuinely looking for work, the reported unemployment rate should really be about 8.0 percent instead of 5.1 percent.
Maybe the administration is fooling the American people, but it's not fooling Janet Yellen.
It's reasonable to see the Fed's contention that it needs to see a stronger labor market as a de facto admission that it believes that the government's official unemployment rate is being fudged.
[3] — Auto sales have only accelerated because credit standards have become incredibly lax, and have been accompanied by significant growth in the subprime borrower segment.
The level of new-home sales is still only about two-thirds of what one would see in a healthy market.
[4] — Ah yes, it's the rest of the world's fault.
It couldn't possibly be weakness here.
As will be seen in a moment, there was enough deterioration in the domestic economy during the past several weeks to cause Yellen and the Fed significant concern.
[5] — The first two of the three gauges cited are nowhere near as important as the problems I will cite shortly.
[6] — Boak, in citing the Fed's concern about the job market, could have noted the government's disclosure early Thursday that the economy added 208,000 fewer jobs (255,000 fewer in the private sector) through March of this year than originally thought.
But, though it's quite relevant, he didn't.
The U.S. economy has not been performing well since late last year, and there are signs that things are getting worse.
Here are just a few of the problem areas:
Retail sales are tepid.
Industrial production has declined or failed to grow in five of the past six months.
Economic growth in general remains historically anemic.
Manufacturing and trade sales have trailed the same month of the previous year for seven straight months.
Meanwhile, inventories are bloated.
In addition to the jobs write down noted above, August's reported seasonally adjusted increase of 173,000 payroll jobs was far weaker than expected.
Based on the raw, not seasonally adjusted data, even that 173K number looked like an overstatement of true job-market conditions.
The growth in consumer spending and consumption in general have been unimpressive, despite being heavily propped up by (initially) pain-free borrowing (student loans, car loans) and welfare state subsidies (food stamps, Obamacare subsidies).
As noted earlier today, thanks to Obama-era economic policies, real median household income, which declined by 8.3 percent during and shortly after the recession, is still 6.5 percent below its pre-recession peak.
Also noted earlier today, again thanks to Obama-era economic policies, the official poverty rate is still more than 2 percentage points higher than it was before the recession.
At 14.8 percent, it has barely come down from its 15.1 percent peak in 2010.
Yellen and the Fed had every reason to raise interest rates, and should have, because the past seven years of zero rates have created distortions which must be unwound.
But they have a long wait ahead of them if they continue to insist on holding off until the economy looks legitimately healthy.
The non-stop pretending in the business press about a "steady" and "reassuring" economy won't change that.
full article...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tom-blumer/2015/09/19/aps-boak-economy-so-good-why-wont-fed-raise-rates (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tom-blumer/2015/09/19/aps-boak-economy-so-good-why-wont-fed-raise-rates)
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I'm going to type real slow so that all the high IQers at the DUmp can understand this but I know they won't.
You confuse "free" with "someone else paying for it." There is no "free" except in volunteer charity.
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It's worth $9.50 a month.
(http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/340/36a/46c/resized/evil-plotting-raccoon-meme-generator-easily-frightened-woman-taking-out-the-trash-guess-where-i-m-hiding-774d69.jpg)
Just ask Aerows.
It's not the regular raccoons I worry about. It's the enhanced ones with heavy weaponry that concern me:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB8BLMMVFLg[/youtube]
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It would be worth $9.50 a month if they'd take all the trash out....get my drift?
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Fri Sep 18, 2015, 04:51 PM
Throd (6,201 posts)
45. Chicago and Detroit are Republican bastions.
Who knew?
Say what????????????????????
I had to look ... per Wikipedia's article on the office, Chicago hasn't had an R Mayor since 1931. IOW, some one born in the last year of the last R Mayor would be 84 or 85!
Detroit last had an R Mayor on January 2, 1962, >53 years ago.
Is this DU member THAT ignorant and stupid? Or a badly inept mole?
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Meh, just dump the garbage at Mopinko's place. Nobody will notice the difference.
The skank is already facing fine and time, for non-compliance.
A little push would be wonderful.
Up thread, jukin mentioned "there is no free'" Well, I say FREE MOMO!!
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Say what????????????????????
I had to look ... per Wikipedia's article on the office, Chicago hasn't had an R Mayor since 1931. IOW, some one born in the last year of the last R Mayor would be 84 or 85!
Detroit last had an R Mayor on January 2, 1962, >53 years ago.
Is this DU member THAT ignorant and stupid? Or a badly inept mole?
I read this primitive comment as sarcasm, myself.
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It's not the regular raccoons I worry about. It's the enhanced ones with heavy weaponry that concern me:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB8BLMMVFLg[/youtube]
Guardians of the Galaxy: Aerows' nightmare fuel.
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I read this primitive comment as sarcasm, myself.
Given the context of DU, discerning sarcasm from ignorance can be difficult. They need to use sarcasm tags.