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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: CC27 on September 11, 2015, 10:16:20 AM
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Star Member Are_grits_groceries (16,063 posts)
I just went after an old friend of mine.
We have had a detente on Facebook. She keeps posting screeds against welfare people who take ALL her money. She also posts about Jesus and Amen. I finally had enough.
I asked about corporate tax avoidance and the fact that most welfare recipients do work. That was dismissed as nonsense. I then told her the poor were mentioned over 1000 times in the Bible. WWJD? She brought up that old standby Paul. I asked her when did what Paul said ever supercede what Jesus said. Jesus didn't ask for pay stubs or country of origin papers.
I can Bible battle with the best.
Oh well. Easy come. Easy go.
Another one bites the dust.
Sure you did. :whatever:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027160264
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Star Member Are_grits_groceries (16,063 posts)
I just went after an old friend of mine.
We have had a detente on Facebook. She keeps posting screeds against welfare people who take ALL her money. She also posts about Jesus and Amen. I finally had enough.
I asked about corporate tax avoidance and the fact that most welfare recipients do work. That was dismissed as nonsense. I then told her the poor were mentioned over 1000 times in the Bible. WWJD? She brought up that old standby Paul. I asked her when did what Paul said ever supercede what Jesus said. Jesus didn't ask for pay stubs or country of origin papers.
I can Bible battle with the best.
Oh well. Easy come. Easy go.
Another one bites the dust.
Cool story, bro.
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Well, Jesus, unlike the late vast Teddy and contemporary Democrats, liberals, and primitives, wouldn't give away franksolich's money so they look good.
Jesus would give away Jesus' own stash.
The primitives can shove that up their rectal apertures and smoke it.
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Socialists, when you care so much about other people you are willing to steal other people's money to give them.
The DUchebags are the worst when complaining about paying taxes, fees, or not getting their free shit like they want.
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Jesus never commanded a federal government to confiscate 90% of ones work earnings to give to lazy ass deadbeats.
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When it comes to despoiling everything they touch, Libs and DUmmies have no equal.
Luckily they don't deign to touch a Bible very often.
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Response to starroute (Reply #38)Fri Sep 11, 2015, 12:13 PM
vlyons (915 posts)
39. That's correct
Members of the earliest church pooled all their resources and wealth to benefit the entire community. Early "communists" without the Marxian ideology of the state owning all the means of production. Jesus was pretty harsh about rich, greedy fat-cats.
Jesus invented communism? The stuff you learn on democrat underground.
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vlyons (915 posts)
39. That's correct
Members of the earliest church pooled all their resources and wealth to benefit the entire community.
Well not quite, and ignores the historical context as well.
Acts 5:1-11, among other things, illustrates how things were done. For brevity, I'll only quote verses 3 and 4:
But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back for yourself part of the proceeds from the sale of the land? Before it was sold, did it not belong to you? And when it was sold, was the money not at your disposal? How have you thought up this deed in your heart? You have not lied to people but to God!â€
IOW, the sharing was entirely voluntary, not under government or church leadership duress. Quite different from any variety of socialism. Which leads to the obvious question, why did they do that?
The first few years of the first church, in Jerusalem was a challenging time, even ignoring any persecution by the established religious leadership and/or the Roman government. Early in the morning of the day of Pentecost the church numbered all of 120 believers. By the end of that day they numbered over 3000. More to the point, many of those 3000 were hundreds or thousands of miles from their home, and stayed on in Jerusalem. That would be 1 or 2 thousand (possibly more!) people with no permanent homes, no jobs, and no food beyond what they had provided for their Passover holiday. So the believers who did live in/near Jerusalem did what made sense. They helped them find housing, get food, and get jobs.
IOW, the sharing of resources in the first church was not an act of spirituality that somehow has since gotten neglected, but a temporary practical measure to deal with a large temporary problem. And while the collection and distribution was organized, the donations were voluntary rather than coerced and given rather than taken.
Not understanding such things is what happens when one sees the Bible as a collection of just-so stories or uses it as a source for mantra-grade quips.
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Jesus never commanded a federal government to confiscate 90% of ones work earnings to give to lazy ass deadbeats.
Yeah, but Bernie Sanders, who must believe he's God, thinks he WILL. And those Bowel Liberation Movement folks aren't the least bit grateful either, are they, Tawana Bravenak?
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Now she is off drinking Jose' with Jose' ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDKyfWppptw