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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on September 07, 2015, 06:27:28 PM
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gobears10 (189 posts)
Reactionary students in Missouri protest transgender student's right to use bathroom/locker rooms [View all]
Full Article: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/02/us/teenagers-protest-a-transgender-students-use-of-the-girls-bathroom.html?_r=0
Holy ****, why is this even a problem? Just let people go to the bathroom and locker room they feel most comfortable in. If others get offended then they are the ones with a problem. This should be a non-issue.
I'll take the bathroom with no confused sissy fags in it.
I wish this article had more of the protesters opinions though, if only so that I could refute them. It would probably the whole "This is just a guy who wants to look at girls in the locker room" spiel. Yeah, like people just choose to receive endless harassment and a significantly increased change of killing themselves in order to catch an unsexualized glimpse or two of women's bodies several years after they come out. That kind of argument makes me sick. It's such a dehumanizing and dishonest point of view.
Instead of protesting in favor of higher wages, lower college tuition, environmental sustainability, police accountability, reproductive rights, LGBT rights, and whatnot, these students felt it was more worth their time to protest against transgender rights. What these students are doing is very bigoted and reactionary, and I just hope that as they grow older, they'll become less intolerant, prejudiced, and ignorant. This is absolutely pathetic.
LostOne4Ever (4,099 posts)
1. Sad that they rather discriminate against a transgirl than find a solution
Before the transphobes and haters start posting in this thread I want to say I personally think the solution here is that we need to get rid of this ridiculous notion of gendered bathrooms and locker rooms. Not only are communal restrooms/locker rooms/showering areas cause these situations, but they are also traumatizing to cis-people.
Just thinking back to gym class in high school leaves me shuddering at the extreme shame and embarrassment it caused me. I refused to get naked in front of everyone and showered wearing a towel, and I wasn't the only one who did that. It was a nightmare.
What they need to do is have co-ed bathrooms and locker rooms with private changing stalls, private showering stalls, and private toilet stalls. Not only would this fix the problem for transmen and transwomen, but also stop putting children through the hell that is the locker room. That would protect all the kids without singling out or excluding anyone.
jberryhill (39,402 posts)
2. Yeah, it's an architectural issue, not a social one
oberliner (31,244 posts)
3. Co-ed bathrooms and locker rooms?
I do agree with you about the unpleasantness of communal showers and the like, but I am not sure that co-ed locker rooms are a great idea.
Might that make some female students uncomfortable to have male students in the same bathroom/locker room?
LostOne4Ever (4,099 posts)
9. Again they have private stalls
Women would have the same safety as they have in the main hall as they leave. Not to mention several sturdy stalls to lock yourself into if you feel unsafe.
This in comparasion to the semi private stalls we have now that anyone can crawl under. All an attacker has to do now is just enter the room and there is no where to run with the current system. Also having more people around more often would actually act as a deterrent.
So, in fact, If anything my solution would make women/girls more safe than they are now...
The only problem I can see w/ my suggestion is cost.
TexasMommaWithAHat (1,660 posts)
10. No thanks. The camaraderie in the locker room
is part of the experience. Put guys in there. Ugh
Besides, even if the stall is locked, guys would still be in the locker room.
No thanks.
LostOne4Ever (4,099 posts)
12. So camaraderie is more important than privacy and inclusion
There are also guys in the regular halls. Why not call for full gender segregation by that logic?
**** off and die pedo.
WinkyDink (44,288 posts)
16. And the money for these renovations?
LostOne4Ever (4,099 posts)
23. Public funds and taxes if need be
I think if conservatives care so much about privacy it would be worth it. Otherwise just let the trans girl use the girls restroom and locker-room with all the other girls.
He's not a girl. He's a confused idiot.
gollygee (18,556 posts)
4. Transgender people need to use the restrooms and locker rooms they're most comfortable in
Restrooms have individual stalls so no one has any reason to complain about them ever.
There's a transgender middle school kid in my life, and he is very uncomfortable about this issue. There are some boys at his school who bother him, and the school does a pretty good job keeping the bullies in line, but the restroom and locker room feel outside the adults' reach and therefore unsafe to him, so he wants to use the girls' locker room and restroom. Also, his friends are girls and he feels safest if he has them with him.
Kids are generally pretty uncomfortable and modest in locker rooms. The scene from Porky's was fiction. I don't think this is worth worrying about. Let the trasngender kid in the article use the facilities she's most comfortable with. She is probably afraid of bullies too. Don't force her to change around bullies. I don't think people are aware how difficult this is for transgender kids.
There are no transgender middle schoolers.
There are confused kids with deep seated issues and victims of pedos.
blah-blah-blah
The mentally ill get to do whatever they want.
**** the rest of you.
You aren't allowed to choose; you're only allowed to bow down and obey.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027146698
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So, feminazis, who hate men for sexualizing all womyn, are completely cool with co-ed lockers?
Cool! 1 out of 1,000 are good looking enough to share a shower with.
I hereby declare myself a transgendered lesbian. I defy any DUmmy to apply the standard transgender criteria to me. Oh wait! There AREN'T any! It is declaration only!
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Transgender "IT" has a problem so "IT" has to cause everyone to have a problem.....typical liberal.
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If any one of us guys walks into a ladies bathroom in a bar there would be a bouncer readjusting our perception of what is okay almost instantly at the womens demand.
If a lady did the same in a mens room,she would have a legal case if the guys told her to get out.
So much for equality in the leftist world
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1. Sad that they rather discriminate against a transgirl than find a solution
That freak was offered a private shower room and refused. Making normal people feel uncomfortable is what freaks want to do.
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Once again, the feelings of one queer supersede the SUM of the feelings of everyone else.
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I'll take the bathroom with no confused sissy fags in it.
If was a teenage male I'd take the girls bathroom. :whistling:
:-)
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gobears10
I wish this article had more of the protesters opinions though, if only so that I could refute them.
:rotf: :lmao: :rotf:
Now that's funny,
Look primitive, you aren't bright enough to refute anything.
That these idiots actually believe they're smart in any shape, form, or fashion is a constant amusement.
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So, feminazis, who hate men for sexualizing all womyn, are completely cool with co-ed lockers?
Cool! 1 out of 1,000 are good looking enough to share a shower with.
I hereby declare myself a transgendered lesbian. I defy any DUmmy to apply the standard transgender criteria to me. Oh wait! There AREN'T any! It is declaration only!
(http://foolery.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/01/24/master_thespian.jpg)
Genius!
Dear God,
Isn't there a recall on these miscreant imbeciles?
Signed,
Earth.
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[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2gCfwILUVc[/youtube]
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That freak was offered a private shower room and refused. Making normal people feel uncomfortable is what freaks want to do.
Well gees. He or she should take a private shower room.
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That freak was offered a private shower room and refused. Making normal people feel uncomfortable is what freaks want to do.
All must bow to the altar of gayness and not only tolerate it, but you must be made to celebrate it and preach the gospel of gayness to all.
All this is is one confused cross-dressing guy with a swingin johnson who wants into the girls locker room regardless the amount of discomfort experienced by those same girls who don't want a confused guy looking at their bodies.
Liberalism is a mental disease and liberals disgust me.
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Transgender "IT" has a problem so "IT" has to cause everyone to have a problem.....typical liberal.
Yes. Standard operating procedure for the reality-denialists, the left.
Hi-5.
CMD
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Just let people go to the bathroom and locker room they feel most comfortable in. If others get offended then they are the ones with a problem.
DUmmy gobears10, can I quote you on this next time we hear that kids aren't allowed to wear clothing to school that have the American flags on them on May 5 because it may offend mexicans living in this Country (legally or illegally)?
Or how about when a restaurant has to remove posters advertising items with bacon because it may offend muzzies?
Or an establishment has to remove sanitizing hand wipes because they contain alcohol and again might offend muslims?
Or the Confederate Flag has to be removed from any property because it offends the delicate sensibilities of delicate flowers?
It's a 2 way street here DUmmy. Your turn.
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I say good for the students who protested. Did you see the picture over there of the freak? It's a male kid wearing a bad wig. I wouldn't want to be within 10 miles of him.
The thread over there is pure insanity.
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I may not have an Einstein level IQ, But I am smart enough to that I wouldn't want my daughter to share shower space with a 'pretend' he/she. Especially if the he/she has lacked the commitment to have his pee-pee whacked off.