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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: libertybele on September 02, 2015, 10:26:18 AM
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I absolutely want to puke. The GOPe is absolutely worthless. Obama has won (again). Yep, as Kerry stated; the framework laid out by Obama and himself will certainly get the job done. I predict that this country will not make it to the next election.
Obama wins critical backing on Iran deal, virtually ensuring survival in Congress
The Obama administration now appears to have enough support in Congress to stave off Republican efforts to reject the president's controversial Iran nuclear deal, after a retiring Maryland Democratic senator came out Wednesday morning in favor of the pact.
Sen. Barbara Mikulski, D-Md., announced her support for the deal as Secretary of State John Kerry delivered a lengthy and detailed address in Philadelphia defending the accord.
In his speech, Kerry disputed what he called "false information" circulating on the deal. He said, contrary to the views of many critics, that the deal provides "access" to keep Iran in check, preserves "every option" to respond if Iran balks, and has elements that will last "for the lifetime of Iran's nuclear program."
"President Obama and I are convinced beyond any reasonable doubt that the framework that we have put forward will get the job done," Kerry said. ...
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/09/02/kerry-tries-to-close-deal-with-congress-on-iran/?intcmp=hpbt1
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I would love to revisit all Kerry's lies about Vietnam.
I loved when Kerry got his backside handed to him by John O'Neill on the Dick Cavett show.
I would love to see someone force Kerry to say all the lies he told before his testimony in congress, that he still stands behind them and they were all absolutely true.
I just keep thinking that at some point in his life he will want to set the record straight.
But now that Kerry is in full swing on the Iran deal, I can see he hasn't changed one iota from the lying sack he was as a youth.
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I would love to revisit all Kerry's lies about Vietnam.
I loved when Kerry got his backside handed to him by John O'Neill on the Dick Cavett show.
I would love to see someone force Kerry to say all the lies he told before his testimony in congress, that he still stands behind them and they were all absolutely true.
I just keep thinking that at some point in his life he will want to set the record straight.
But now that Kerry is in full swing on the Iran deal, I can see he hasn't changed one iota from the lying sack he was as a youth.
Not only is he a liar he is a traitor. You will never convince me that he and Barry aren't being handsomely compensated for handing this country over to the Iranians. For that matter, I believe Putin has them in his pocket as well as Hilda beast.
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Obama wins critical backing on Iran deals
another way to look at this is America looses.
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This tears it for me. Come 2016 I will NOT vote for a candidate the GOP establishment endorses. I'll vote 3rd party if I have to because the GOP is dead.
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Until it is put to a full vote, obinga hasn't won anything. Right now, these demoshits are engaging in some risk free rebellion. Let them put their name to a vote and hang it on posterity.
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This tears it for me. Come 2016 I will NOT vote for a candidate the GOP establishment endorses. I'll vote 3rd party if I have to because the GOP is dead.
There are only 4 candidates that are NOT associated with the GOP RINO's: Trump, Carson, Cruz and Fiorina. My preference of course is Cruz, but I will vote for one of them before I vote for the GOP RINO's. If one of the GOPe wins the nomination, I too will vote 3rd party. You are absolutely correct; the GOP establishment is DEAD.
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WTF does the GOP have to do with democrats supporting this?
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WTF does the GOP have to do with democrats supporting this?
Without the GOP's consent, it would not gotten to this point. They caved in and said that they could pass a bill outlawing the agreement, but that Obama could veto it and then they would need a veto proof majority to override the veto.
They basically gave up their right to advise and consent on what every sane person would call a treaty with Iran. They caved to Obama and placed the world at peril, especially Israel and the US.
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Without the GOP's consent, it would not gotten to this point. They caved in and said that they could pass a bill outlawing the agreement, but that Obama could veto it and then they would need a veto proof majority to override the veto.
They basically gave up their right to advise and consent on what every sane person would call a treaty with Iran. They caved to Obama and placed the world at peril, especially Israel and the US.
Exactly. The GOPe caved as usual. It's to the point that I can't remember an instance where the GOPe hasn't sided with the DEMS and Obama.
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There are only 4 candidates that are NOT associated with the GOP RINO's: Trump, Carson, Cruz and Fiorina. My preference of course is Cruz, but I will vote for one of them before I vote for the GOP RINO's. If one of the GOPe wins the nomination, I too will vote 3rd party. You are absolutely correct; the GOP establishment is DEAD.
After the Great Con of Nov. 2014 how can anyone just vote for a Republican just because. This will be one of the hardest elections for me in my life. I will not vote for anyone who even has the hint of RINO stench.
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Good news is it seems like the country is waking up, the liberals have gone full crazy and even some of the leftists are waking up. It's time for a change, I can feel it in me loins
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Without the GOP's consent, it would not gotten to this point. They caved in and said that they could pass a bill outlawing the agreement, but that Obama could veto it and then they would need a veto proof majority to override the veto.
They basically gave up their right to advise and consent on what every sane person would call a treaty with Iran. They caved to Obama and placed the world at peril, especially Israel and the US.
Except the fact the administration still states this is not a treaty as many other administrations have done on both sides of aisle. What the GOP did was to have at least a say on this. The Senate can't declare that this a treaty, it has to be considered a treaty by the administration.
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Except the fact the administration still states this is not a treaty as many other administrations have done on both sides of aisle. What the GOP did was to have at least a say on this. The Senate can't declare that this a treaty, it has to be considered a treaty by the administration.
If it looks like a treaty and smells like a treaty, it is a treaty. The congress could have sued over that fact, but Boehner and McConnell have bent over for Obama every single time .
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After the Great Con of Nov. 2014 how can anyone just vote for a Republican just because. This will be one of the hardest elections for me in my life. I will not vote for anyone who even has the hint of RINO stench.
Hi 5. Exactly. Voters handed the GOPe the majority and they have done absolutely nothing as Ted Cruz pointed out when he called McConnell a liar and explained and disclosed the corruption in the Senate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaWgFoVI4JU
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One distasteful word sums up the Iran deal: Corker.
The Corker bill is a “constitutional perversion.â€
The republicans want this Iran deal, but just didn’t want the American people to know they wanted it.
“The Corker bill is a ploy to circumvent this constitutional roadblock.â€
“Under the Constitution, Obama’s Iran deal would not have a prayer. Under the Corker bill, it would sail through. And once again, it would be Republicans first ensuring that self-destruction is imposed on us, then striking the pose of dogged opponents by casting futile nay votes.â€
Why do the liberal R's want to to empower Iran, a terrorist state? In so doing, the security of Israel & America will be @ greater risk. & in so strengthening Iran, will this trigger a nuclear arms race?
The author of this link gives one rational:
“...many on the GOP side of the political class calculate that it is more important to avoid blame for frustrating Obama — this time, on his delusional Iran deal — than to succeed in actually frustrating Obama.â€
Or could it simply be a case of follow the money via the military industrial complex.
Mitch McConnell: "While the president may be able to sustain a veto with the tepid, restricted and partisan support of one-third of one house of Congress over Americans' bipartisan opposition, it will require a bipartisan Congress to strengthen our defenses in the Persian Gulf and to stand up to the inevitable Iranian violations of the agreement that will need to be addressed after he has left office."
Back in May, the Senate approved the Corker bill 98 - 1. The only republican to vote "no" was Senator Tom Cotton.
http://www.morningstar.com/news/dow-jones/TDJNDN_201509026953/obama-locks-in-votes-to-secure-iran-nuclear-deal.print.html
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/417128/corker-bill-isnt-victory-its-constitutional-perversion-andrew-c-mccarthy
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This tears it for me. Come 2016 I will NOT vote for a candidate the GOP establishment endorses. I'll vote 3rd party if I have to because the GOP is dead.
Eating worms is a great strategy.
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A few tweets from obama's new BFF, the grand poobah of iran
Khamenei.ir â€@khamenei_ir 6h6 hours ago
.@IRKhomeini stated “US is the Great Satan,†some insist on depicting this Great Satan as an angel.
Khamenei.ir â€@khamenei_ir 7h7 hours ago
After negotiations, in Zionist regime they said they had no more concern about Iran for next 25 years; I’d say: (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COcjn6NWsAAxKT5.jpg)
https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir (https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir)
Well done you leftist ****sticks. You have gotten in bed with pure evil
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Andrew C. McCarthy @ the National Review has been consistent in digging into the Iran Deal & why the republicans are so complicit.
In a previous article he made his case why the Corker-Cardin deal:
...meant they would be able to complain about the deal and vote to disapprove it — thereby creating the impression that they were staunchly against the lifting of sanctions that they had already authorized.
In this article he asks the question why wouldn't the GOP congressional leaders oppose the Iran deal? & then he provides evidence why so many R's want it passed.
Boeing is the world’s largest aerospace company, with revenues expected to surge past $96 billion this year. It is a major GOP donor. It gives mountains of money to Democrats, too, but the lion’s share of its political contributions go to Republicans.
Iran needs aircrafts, & Boeing has just what they need. "Tens of billions of dollars in sales for manufacturers" will be for the taking to those companies who can supply what Iran needs once the sanctions are lifted.
To sum up: Obama cuts a deal with Iran. The implementation of the deal is abetted by legislation pushed by the Republican-controlled Congress despite massive opposition from the GOP base. Under the deal, a major GOP donor stands to make billions selling aircraft to Iran. Iran will use the aircraft to fortify the Assad regime (which Obama and GOP leadership claim to want to topple) and to promote terrorism by networks with a history of murdering Americans.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/424263/republicans-donors-iran-deal-boeing
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I had a vision back in Nov when I voted for the R's, it was that they would pass bill after bill and let OBlamer VETO everyone so it could be used against any D running for POTUS. Then I woke up it was a dream!!!! :argh:
BUT they have caved and are doing their best to elect another D.
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I had a vision back in Nov when I voted for the R's, it was that they would pass bill after bill and let OBlamer VETO everyone so it could be used against any D running for POTUS. Then I woke up it was a dream!!!! :argh:
BUT they have caved and are doing their best to elect another D.
47% of the populace aren't upset at anything owebuma does.
In fact there's a good bit of that support who actually are enamored by owebuma's actions.
They don't care what owebuma's record is they will vote for him and support him no matter what, and that goes for the next dem to run.
So having anything on the record doesn't move that 47% of the populace.
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47% of the populace aren't upset at anything owebuma does.
In fact there's a good bit of that support who actually are enamored by owebuma's actions.
They don't care what owebuma's record is they will vote for him and support him no matter what, and that goes for the next dem to run.
So having anything on the record doesn't move that 47% of the populace.
I agree the 47% is the magic number!
But it will matter to the MILLIONS of VOTERS like me who always felt well a not voting or a third party vote is a vote for the D's.
WE the MILLIONS will not do it anymore. Our leaders in the congress and the senate sold us out as the biggest suckers ever. WE gave them the majority and they pissed on us, never again. I will be voting for a CONSERVATIVE even if it has to be third party!