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The Bar => The Lounge => Topic started by: mrclose on August 29, 2015, 08:34:25 PM
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Yes, I'm an Old Fart myself so .. I cannot be reported to the PC police!
I've been watching Turner movies and I just wanted to ask you other Old Farts .. Who, today is equal to yesterdays actors?
Actors like Paul Newman, Steve Mcqueen, Marlon Brando, Clark Gable, Tyrone power, Earl Flynn, James Cagney, Edward G Robinson .. etc. etc.
Yes, I asked about the men simply because I know that we have Kim kardashian which would be the answer to the female roles!
Seriously, can anyone give me some answers to who is as good as the male (or female) actors of yesteryear?
Name ONE actor today who will be remembered fifty years from now?
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Speaking only of his acting, Tom Hanks might, though he isn't exactly young.
One curiosity, which I think is related to modern Hollyweirdian mediocrity, is how many "stars" are straight out of the cute-guy or cute-girl cookie cutters. A Peter Lorre or Margaret Hamilton or Sidney Greenstreet would not be cast in significant roles in modern Hollyweird. It takes ordinary (or even homely and ugly) looking people to pull off substantial stories.
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Speaking only of his acting, Tom Hanks might, though he isn't exactly young.
One curiosity, which I think is related to modern Hollyweirdian mediocrity, is how many "stars" are straight out of the cute-guy or cute-girl cookie cutters. A Peter Lorre or Margaret Hamilton or Sidney Greenstreet would not be cast in significant roles in modern Hollyweird. It takes ordinary (or even homely and ugly) looking people to pull off substantial stories.
OMG ... Margaret Hamilton!!
The greatest witch of all time!!
Thank You.
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I have no idea who you're talking about, aside from Tom Hanks.
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I have no idea who you're talking about, aside from Tom Hanks.
Long, long ago, talented men and women used to pretend to be other people for the amusement of audiences. Sometimes a man would pretend to be a cowboy, or a Roman soldier, or a detective. Women would pretend to be witches, princesses, or seductive criminals.
We alter kakkers (Yiddish for "old farts") call that "acting".
Today, you kids have Seth Rogan stumbling around and mumbling to himself in a marijuana-induced fog for 100 minutes, computer-generated dinosaurs flying computer-generated spaceships, and Leonardo DiCaprio is considered a serious artist.
You don't know what you're missing.
:-) :-) :-)
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I have no idea who you're talking about, aside from Tom Hanks.
Just off the top of my head ...
For Peter Lorre, watch "Arsenic and Old Lace". Lorre plays a supporting part, a plastic "surgeon".
For Margaret Hamilton, watch the 1939 version of "The Wizard of Oz". Hamilton plays the Wicked Witch of the West.
For Sydney Greenstreet, watch "Casablanca" or "The Maltese Falcon"; even better, watch both; Greenstreet played supporting roles in both, some shady characters.
"Old Hollywood" didn't lack for beautiful and handsome stars (Besides those who appeared in the movies I listed above, Myrna Loy in the "Thin Man" series comes to mid). But Hollywood employed a rather varied range of people, more so than modern Hollyweird.
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No one even comes close.
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I like Johnny Depp because he came up with one of the funniest comebacks when a reporter asked his opinion on some political subject.
(Don't remember what it was)
Not his exact words but as close as I can remember: "Why would anybody want an opinion from someone who makes faces for a living"?
:rotf: :rotf:
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He's not the best actor, but Keanu Reeves in John Wick was fantastic. I love that movie.
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Speaking only of his acting, Tom Hanks might, though he isn't exactly young.
One curiosity, which I think is related to modern Hollyweirdian mediocrity, is how many "stars" are straight out of the cute-guy or cute-girl cookie cutters. A Peter Lorre or Margaret Hamilton or Sidney Greenstreet would not be cast in significant roles in modern Hollyweird. It takes ordinary (or even homely and ugly) looking people to pull off substantial stories.
The film is 28+ years old, but this gal wins the award for greasy, scummy, Oscar-winning performances:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j0KhXH6xLE[/youtube]
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He's not the best actor, but Keanu Reeves in John Wick was fantastic. I love that movie.
You may be the first human being to say "Keanu Reeves" and "fantastic" in the same paragraph, much less the same sentence.
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You may be the first human being to say "Keanu Reeves" and "fantastic" in the same paragraph, much less the same sentence.
Have you seen John Wick?
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Have you seen John Wick?
Yes. I saw the DVD in the bargain bin at K Mart recently. :rofl:
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I like Johnny Depp because he came up with one of the funniest comebacks when a reporter asked his opinion on some political subject.
(Don't remember what it was)
Not his exact words but as close as I can remember: "Why would anybody want an opinion from someone who makes faces for a living"?
:rotf: :rotf:
I was going to say Johnny Depp. Can't remember the movie but asked my wife "who is that guy" after a pretty good performance.
Some of my favorites; Steve McQueen, Yul Brynner, Charles Bronson, Eli Wallach in "The Magnificent Seven" (1960).
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I would say, in no particular order:
Tom Hanks
Liam Neeson
Brad Pitt
Robert Downey Jr.
Johnny Depp when he isn't doing his make-up fetish stuff, for instance Transcendence was a really good movie in spite of getting panned.
Christian Bale
Edward Norton
Michael Keaton
Paul Bettany
If there is a problem I think it is in the types of movies being produced these days. Comedies have gone for the sh!t jokes, there are probably too many superhero movies being made, they haven't made a really good romantic comedy in 4 or 5 years. Dramas usually revolve around some sort of agitprop.
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A few of these guys are retired or close to, but my favorites include:
Gene Hackman
Kevin Spacey
Edward Norton
Clint Eastwood
Tom Hanks
George Clooney (sometimes)
Tommy Lee Jones
Sam Elliott
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I'd include Denzel Washington. He might not go down as the greatest actor of the age, but he's one of the few consistently makes movies that I enjoy.
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Yes. I saw the DVD in the bargain bin at K Mart recently. :rofl:
Nah, it's a really good movie.
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I'd like to think Russell Crowe will endure.
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Have you seen John Wick?
Never even heard of it.
Have you seen any of the Matrix? Or the screwed up remake of When the Earth Stood Still? Or watched concrete dry?
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I'd include Denzel Washington. He might not go down as the greatest actor of the age, but he's one of the few consistently makes movies that I enjoy.
Yep, agreed!
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I'd like to think Russell Crowe will endure.
He hasn't made a good movie since Beautiful Mind.
His last films have all been turkeys, first and foremost Les Miz (which was so bad I had to turn it off about 1/4 of the way in).
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Tom Cruise.
Not so much for his acting, but his name recognition for many blockbuster movies.
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I'd like to think Russell Crowe will endure.
Ah, yes. Russell Crowe:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyWsFfd9pqE[/youtube]