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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: GOBUCKS on August 25, 2015, 05:03:53 PM
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This thread just struck me as funny.
Nutcase nadin, who is about as cultured as a dog tick, tries to brag about her refinement.
It prompts a competition among DUmpmonkeys to see who is the most sophisticated:
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 05:36 PM
nadinbrzezinski (140,733 posts)
One of my favorite you tube videos (Bethoven's 9th symphony)
https://video-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xap1/v/t43.1792-
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027109331
Okay. Here comes the one-up:
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 05:42 PM
BKH70041 (808 posts)
1. Agreed, one of my favorites, too.
Got to hear it by the London Philharmonic Orchestra when I was living there, conducted by Klaus Tennstedt.
No way. A rare "three-up":
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 05:49 PM
hifiguy (25,828 posts)
3. Ah, Klaus Tennstedt. :)
Beethoven was seldom in better hands than Tennstedt's or Carlos Kleiber's. Bruno Walter, as well, IMO.
Unfortunately Kleiber and Tennstedt had small repertoires and recorded so little because they demanded a zillion rehearsals, costing a fortune and drove the players to distraction.
But what magnificent results.
Even the CalPig, who thinks her own pornographic poetry is artful, chimes in:
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 05:44 PM
Star Member CaliforniaPeggy (116,443 posts)
2. Just wonderful! Thank you, my dear nadin...
Actually, it's an excerpt. But I'm quibbling.
All we're missing is that dimwit bragging about his white dinner jacket.
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As great as it is, Beethoven's 9th is the iHop of classical music. It is everywhere and pretty much a classical music punchline (anyone remember PDQ Bach?)
Now, das lied von der erde OTOH.
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Since when has nadin ever started a thread and then not come back to make it even more about herself? Must have had to run real quick to cover the beat.
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not much to do with anything, just got reminded of this:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAcZT4g-f_s[/youtube]
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Since when has nadin ever started a thread and then not come back to make it even more about herself? Must have had to run real quick to cover the beat.
Be patient.
I'm pretty confident she'll eventually turn this Beethoven thread into a knockdown-drag out brawl.
It's what she does.
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Well, tough shit for nadin.
As some of you know, to help boost this morale, friends in the music business have been working on a bunch of different gadgets so as to enable me to "hear" music, mostly through bone conduction of sound.
This is something that's been going on for years, decades, people trying to figure out how to make it so franksolich can "hear."
Two weeks ago, some sort of breakthrough was accomplished--it's still pretty weak and gives me headaches, but it's the best I've "heard" music in my whole entire life.
And franksolich has now acquired instant culture.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qni-3z7Mto
I can't get enough of this refined culture; so far, I've downloaded 37 different youtube versions of Mozart's 12 Variations, and I'm hoping to collect them all, however many there are.
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Isn`t Beethoven's 9th the one most famously talked about by Schroeder in the Peanuts cartoons?
Guessing this is where the crazy bald freak heard of it.
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Tue Aug 25, 2015, 05:36 PM
nadinbrzezinski (140,733 posts)
One of my favorite you tube videos (Bethoven's 9th symphony)
https://video-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xap1/v/t43.1792-
Well, crank it up on your mainframe, Blob.
(http://www.computermuseum.li/Testpage/PlayskoolComputer1972.jpg)
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Isn`t Beethoven's 9th the one most famously talked about by Schroeder in the Peanuts cartoons?
Guessing this is where the crazy bald freak heard of it.
Yeah, the Ninth is the one everybody knows about.
It takes special refinement and elevated culture to know about Mozart's 12 Variations, though.
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Isn`t Beethoven's 9th the one most famously talked about by Schroeder in the Peanuts cartoons?
Guessing this is where the crazy bald freak heard of it.
More likely:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og1_WCYGa-w
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Isn`t Beethoven's 9th the one most famously talked about by Schroeder in the Peanuts cartoons?
Guessing this is where the crazy bald freak heard of it.
I always thought it was Beethoven's Fifth Symphony.
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I don't much care for classical music, but all those names look like the names of artists who are WHITE MALES.
What do the primitives have against some nice jazz? One gets the feeling that BMDM (black music doesn't matter) to the primitives.
Racists.
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I don't much care for classical music.....
I suggest to cousin nadin that this one's well worth the listen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL9CFbtwUWc&index=28&list=RDFjOvglYEzcg
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I suggest to cousin nadin that this one's well worth the listen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL9CFbtwUWc&index=28&list=RDFjOvglYEzcg
Are you able to "hear" certain instruments, and not others? I was going to ask about the human voice in song, but you've already answered that with this video.
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Tue Aug 25, 2015, 05:49 PM
hifiguy (25,828 posts)
3. Ah, Klaus Tennstedt. :)
Beethoven was seldom in better hands than Tennstedt's or Carlos Kleiber's. Bruno Walter, as well, IMO.
Unfortunately Kleiber and Tennstedt had small repertoires and recorded so little because they demanded a zillion rehearsals, costing a fortune and drove the players to distraction.
But what magnificent results.
(http://b.vimeocdn.com/ts/932/825/93282525_640.jpg)
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While we're immersed in refinement here, how about some poetry?
CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-13-07 08:00 PM
Original message
My newest poem....**Caution! Erotic content!**
Such strength
The masculine facade
Sharp flashing eyes
Tender fingers and tongue
The man dominates me.
His body, his mind
Overcome me.
He strokes, and licks, and drinks me.
And then he enters
I open and yield myself
I surrender to his strength, his passion.
My mind is overcome with what I cannot tell...
But it’s wrong
I dominate him.
For at the last–who yields?
At the peak of passion
He empties the aching seed
Into me...
Although it's not explicitly stated, this is probably a copyrighted work of art.
Feel free to read it for your own enjoyment and enlightenment, or to inspire friends and family.
But you should not charge admission for a reading without first reaching a royalty agreement with the CalPig.
Movie rights are available for negotiation.
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Tue Aug 25, 2015, 05:44 PM
Star Member CaliforniaPeggy (116,443 posts)
2. Just wonderful! Thank you, my dear nadin...
Actually, it's an excerpt. But I'm quibbling.
I've been reading too much CC. When I initially read the above I read it as my "dear COUSIN nadin."
And GOBUCKS is evil.
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And GOBUCKS is evil.
Well, someone had to do it. It was just more a matter of who the task fell to. :tongue:
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Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:37 PM
Star Member longship (27,651 posts)
13. Spontaneous music is wonderful.
However, I think this one was staged. Nevertheless, good shit.
My best to you, Nadine, for this post.
As Duke Ellington said, "If the music sounds good, it is good."
R&K
This primitive invokes the words of a person of color in a poorly veiled attempt at adding some diversity to the thread.
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This thread just struck me as funny.
Nutcase nadin, who is about as cultured as a dog tick, tries to brag about her refinement.
Oh yeah. She love to appear a member of the elite. I remember crossing swords with her on DI when she claimed to have narrowly missed membership in the Mexico Olympic Fencing team. She was turned down because of a bad knee that plagues her to this day. Her next breath was st say she followed that up by becoming a champion mountain climber..with a bad knee.
Sweet nads was offended that I couldn't believe her.
But that is it, she claims to be the elite of Mexico, why she left such a macical fairyland I will never know...over there bad knees are a sign of RESPECT
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... she claims to be the elite of Mexico,...
Oh, she does? Well, there's a few ways to prove that. She needs to demonstrate how good she is at harvesting produce, or laying sod, or maybe mowing, weeding, and otherwise keeping up the landscaping in my yard.
She can prove herself there, then she might be able to lay partial claim to the title of "Elite of Mexico."
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Oh, she does? Well, there's a few ways to prove that. She needs to demonstrate how good she is at harvesting produce, or laying sod, or maybe mowing, weeding, and otherwise keeping up the landscaping in my yard.
She can prove herself there, then she might be able to lay partial claim to the title of "Elite of Mexico."
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She claims to make a mean chilli relleno.
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Nuffing like a bit of the old Ludwig Van to get the vino pumping in the old golova, I always sez. Real horroshaw-like.
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Nuffing like a bit of the old Ludwig Van to get the vino pumping in the old golova, I always sez. Real horroshaw-like.
Nice
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You want culture Nadin, I will show you culture:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8C7i9kdEf8[/youtube]
Not good enough? I will one up you then:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0tGFcql8RQ[/youtube]
These are examples of a perfectly good culture you SCORN you little oompaloompa. GFYS :bigbird:
Incidentally, Someone should post the 'Elvis, Aloha From Hawaii' video on DU and watch them do this:
(http://i.imgur.com/e6XeJdi.gif)
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Tue Aug 25, 2015, 05:36 PM
nadinbrzezinski (140,733 posts)
One of my favorite you tube videos (Bethoven's 9th symphony)
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AOmaX-VuoY[/youtube]
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You want culture Gnads? This man displays more 'culture' than you will EVER know, even with all your alleged 'job titles'.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG9EgGG7t94[/youtube]
'Murica. 'nuff said. :salutearmy: :saluteaf: :saluteusmc: :salutenavy:
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It's all a dog and pony show. I doubt many if any actually listen to classical composers. It's all part of maintaining their superiority complex.
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Well heck, I like Beethoven's ninth as much as the next guy, but I'm suprised the Gnads didn't pick out this particular version of the piece:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IInG5nY_wrU[/youtube]
It is considered by some to be one of Leonard Bernstein's seminal performances of this piece. A slight change to the lyrics of the Bass part to "Freiheit" ("Freedom") from "Freude" ("Joy") made it a celebration of the fall of the Berlin wall.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._9_(Beethoven)#Notable_performances_and_recordings (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._9_(Beethoven)#Notable_performances_and_recordings)
Having heard this performed, I will agree it is a powerful piece of music, and a personal favorite (the wife (then girlfriend)) almost had to elbow me in the ribs to stop humming it at the concert), but these knuckleheads have no clue what 'culture' is.
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Are you able to "hear" certain instruments, and not others? I was going to ask about the human voice in song, but you've already answered that with this video.
I’m sorry I’m late in responding, but real life interferes, especially with the mood.
I don’t really “hear,†in the same sense that hearing people hear, and oftentimes it’s been speculated that things I “hear†are actually created in this imagination, which I suppose is eminently possible.
As some have seen from childhood photographs of myself posted here, I was born without ear canals and ear-drums; franksolich is medically classified as an “environmental accident,†as the absence of ears was caused by my mother, a registered nurse, alas grabbing a wrong bar of hand-soap when pregnant with me. I’m one of those “Accutane babies†the social architects and women’s-libbers think should’ve been terminated before I began to live.
Bah, humbug. I will match my “quality of life†with the quality of life of any primitive—any primitive, period—and I quite reasonably suspect mine has been better than theirs, loads and mountains better.
But anyway, so I can’t hear a damned thing the way hearing people hear.
However, there’s bone conduction, the conduction of sound through the skeletal structure. Every human has the ability to use such a thing, but since most people can hear the usual and normal way, they never bother discovering and utilizing it.
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By an odd quirk of chance, I was born into a musical family; only my mother, an older brother, and I never sang, never used a musical instrument. Everybody else did, though. The talent came from my father, who when in high school received a full-ride scholarship to Wittenberg College in Ohio, in music, both vocal and instrumental. (But because of other circumstances he left after a year there, and ultimately went into nursing and hospital administration.)
Growing up in such a family, it was inevitable that I would be aware of music from my earliest years, although obviously I was never quite sure what to do with it.
My parents were big believers in the idea that every problem has a solution, and almost as early as the cradle, I was constantly yanked from one physician to another, from one hospital to another, in attempts to make it possible for me to hear. Of course it was futile; the blood, sweat, tears, money, and hopes involved with that were decades ago, but I still regret that others felt it necessary to expend so much for so little that was ultimately gotten.
Even as an adult, for whatever reasons, I still seem to attract others who want to “do something†for me, most usually “helping†me to “hear.†They appear to think it a particular tragedy, that franksolich “misses out†on “so much.†Ever since my first year in college so many eons ago, friends and acquaintances made it a mission in their lives to devise things that I might be able to use, to “hear.â€
Lately, oh, the past twenty or so years, it’s been people in the music business for whom I’ve done favors in the past. I suppose for people who like music, deafness is more of a misfortune, a tragedy, than for people who don’t much care for it.
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This past May, after being a compulsive chain-smoker of cigarettes, usually 2-3 packages a day excepting the last few years, since I was a teenager in 1978, I finally had the “big one,†and had to quit the habit. Right away. Right then and there.
That heart attack sucked a lot out of me, and now there’s many things I used to do, but can’t do any more. It’s a wretched, miserable, sort of existence, but better to pay for one’s sins in this life than in the next, I think.
One of the things thought a possible morale-builder was that “if only†franksolich could hear, and enjoy music. Having nothing better to do, and in a generally disconsolate mood anyway, I subjected myself to experimentations by a sound engineer from Lincoln.
Of course he’s trying the impossible—there is no way, no way at all, I’ll ever be able to hear anything close to what normal people hear—but if one labors a mountain, sometimes he brings forth at least a mouse, and that’s what happened here three weeks ago.
Using bone conduction of sound, knobs on a panel, and headsets that clench the jawbones rather than surround the head, I can now say yes, I am in fact “hearing†better than I ever have in my life.
But actually, what I’m “hearing†is pitifully little, compared with what hearing people hear, and it would take a professional audiologist or ear-physician to decipher whether I’m really hearing, or if much of it’s just a figment of the imagination. My guess is that about half of what I “hear†is actually made up inside my head, to fill in gaps where I’m not “hearing†anything.
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It’s a lot of time and trouble, and I’m sure most people wouldn’t put up with it. For one, when “hearing,†I can do nothing else. Nothing at all; merely sit there and try to “hear.†It takes a headache-inducing intense concentration. I’m sure that if I were busy trying to “hear†something, the whole house could burn down around me, and I would have no idea, having shut out the whole world outside of this single auditory input.
Instrumental music is one thing, easier to grasp; vocal music requires—if I wish to know about it—a program or transcript or a written-down dialogue, for me to follow the words. To put vocal music in front of me without such an “aid,†one might as well shove a primitive in my face; no matter how hard I try, I’m not going to “get it.â€
Generally, it’s easier dealing with music without words.
The chick from New Zealand singing “God Save the Queen†in the above youtube, I got more out of merely watching the movement of her mouth, than any words she said. However, from the general overall “sound†of it, I got the impression she’s a remarkably talented singer.
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Now, last night, I made a marvelous discovery; I’ll bet cousin nadin’s never even hear of it, even though this deaf person’s been aware of it since I was, oh, about three years old:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM2yUH3E4JA
I’m familiar with this because my father used to sing this part in community performances of Handel’s Messiah throughout central Nebraska when I was a child. I grew up knowing the words by heart, and used it as the ending part (the recessional?) of the funeral for my younger brother. Played and sung by hearing people, of course.
I could be wrong, but I get the impression this guy’s awesome; in fact, this is probably the very best version of this ever recorded anywhere, by anyone. I can’t imagine how it’s possible anyone else can do better than he did.
But how much of it I’m actually and truly hearing, I have no idea; as one knows from reading my short stories here, when describing conversations, I do have a habit of “filling in†words and comments where I might’ve missed something.
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This is all the culture I need: :rocker2:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFWdMVn_lPw[/youtube]