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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Patriot Guard Rider on August 23, 2015, 08:22:32 AM
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Star Member mmonk (49,745 posts)
I'm starting to be surprised over the Clinton email thing.
I really didn't think it would exact any kind of toll on her campaign but the numbers nationally keep moving where the clown car on the other side is being considered by way too many people in this country. I also know the Party heads will mostly likely not get behind our other candidates. Even as a supporter of another campaign, it's starting to bother me, especially given the unpredictable dynamics right now. Any thoughts looking ahead to the upcoming month?
Star Member Sunlei (10,534 posts)
1. I think 'USA media' will have Mrs. Clinton down to single % in polls in less then 6 months.
And then they'll start on Senator Sanders 40 years of 'work' letters and 'work' emails, and destroy him through media too.
Star Member Warren Stupidity (44,085 posts)
9. The NYT is to the left of Fox News and the New York Post.
However it is politically center-right.
Your screen name, at least the second half, is right on target. NYT center-right. ROFL..
Star Member Autumn (22,960 posts)
4. It's not surprising. Many of us knew the media and the GOP would be attacking her
24/7 over her e mail actions and anything else they can find. That's what they do, she should have known that. She lived it during her White House years. The question is how much will the people endure before they become fatigued with having to defend her for her actions?
DanTex (8,945 posts)
7. The MSM, the far left, and the far right are attacking her in unison.
So yeah, that takes a bit of a toll in polls, but she's still way ahead in the primary and polling well for the GE.
None of this is really a surprise (except maybe the fact that the far left has embraced the MSM's faux-scandal-chasing). Like Nate Silver said, some kind of phony scandal was to be expected, and was already "priced in" to Hillary's status as favorite. It's got nothing to do with the substance of the email thing, because there is no substance.
How's that rectal/cranial inversion working out for you DanTex?
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mmonk needs to get his head (and the rest of him/her too) out of the DU Echo-Monastery. Maybe the fact that Tsaritsa CHILL is being "dragged down" by evidence that she committed felonies and by her arrogance in trying to stonewall efforts to find out all that was done might penetrate mmonk's thick skull.
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mmonk needs to get his head (and the rest of him/her too) out of the DU Echo-Monastery. Maybe the fact that Tsaritsa CHILL is being "dragged down" by evidence that she committed felonies and by her arrogance in trying to stonewall efforts to find out all that was done might penetrate mmonk's thick skull.
Nah. She has a D after her name, therefore, she must be defended at all costs. IF she's the nominee and loses, they'll blame those damn right wing racists instead of her and her scandals.
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The Hildebeast's problems have little to do with the news media.
The jug-eared muslim hates her and Willy for their 2008 insults and for the unlikelihood of her appointing far-left fringe judges to the Supreme Court.
She wouldn't carry out his legacy to "fundamentally transform", i.e., destroy, this nation.
He's using the Justice Department to lay explosive charges underneath her campaign that he can set off at any time.
As soon as he has the Slow Joe/Fauxcohontas ticket lined up, Valerie Jarrett will quietly offer Hillary a choice between calling off her campaign or facing indictment.
Slow Joe is so dumb he'll take orders, and Warren will placate the party crazies like the Sandernistas.
At that point, Hilly or Willy will discover some dire medical prognosis that forces her to withdraw.
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The Hildebeast's problems have little to do with the news media.
The jug-eared muslim hates her and Willy for their 2008 insults and for the unlikelihood of her appointing far-left fringe judges to the Supreme Court.
She wouldn't carry out his legacy to "fundamentally transform", i.e., destroy, this nation.
He's using the Justice Department to lay explosive charges underneath her campaign that he can set off at any time.
As soon as he has the Slow Joe/Fauxcohontas ticket lined up, Valerie Jarrett will quietly offer Hillary a choice between calling off her campaign or facing indictment.
Slow Joe is so dumb he'll take orders, and Warren will placate the party crazies like the Sandernistas.
At that point, Hilly or Willy will discover some dire medical prognosis that forces her to withdraw.
At this point, she has to know she's done. Alternate thinking says, if jug ears takes her down, she starts singing about him. At that point, SHE is the one who might be taking a ride to Ft. Marcy Park.
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At this point, she has to know she's done. Alternate thinking says, if jug ears takes her down, she starts singing about him. At that point, SHE is the one who might be taking a ride to Ft. Marcy Park.
Apprehending a phenomenon and intellectually/emotionally acceding the consequences are two different things.
Proglodytes are very ego-driven creatures.
Can anybody point to a solid reason why Hillary wants to be POTUS except her ego?
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Apprehending a phenomenon and intellectually/emotionally acceding the consequences are two different things.
Proglodytes are very ego-driven creatures.
Can anybody point to a solid reason why Hillary wants to be POTUS except her ego?
She wants to help the middle class silly. Remember, she was dead broke not long ago so she identifies with down on their luck, average, everyday Americans. It's those she wants to help. (Do I need a sarcasm thingy here?)
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Oh, DUmmies . . . Take a gander at this!
http://nypost.com/2015/08/23/hillarys-e-mail-defense-is-total-bs-former-state-dept-officials/
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I know many of the Dem party sheeple will vote for whoever they're told, but I keep trying to figure out how a Slow Joe/Fauxchaontas ticket excites the general population. Dear Leader will appeal to the black voters to support Slow Joe like they did him, but younger people (who generally don't vote in strong numbers anyway) are worse off than they were, and you're bound to upset the women who wanted to vote for Hillary who will smell the setup (and I doubt Fauxchaontas will be considered an ample substitute). Also, when it all comes down to it, the candidate has to be the one who wins it, and Slow Joe doesn't inspire anyone to do anything other than fall asleep or vomit.
The Dems have a bunch of old farts that appeal to the 60's hippie types, and that's it. They're seeing this as their last chance at a hurrah.
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The Dems have a bunch of old farts that appeal to the 60's hippie types, and that's it. They're seeing this as their last chance at a hurrah.
Never underestimate the voting power of stupid people in large numbers. (See 2008 and 2012 for reference).
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Never underestimate the voting power of stupid people in large numbers. (See 2008 and 2012 for reference).
H5 given. Dead on.
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Clinton emails and server would have been more secure with Ashley Madison...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/jeffrey-meyer/2015/08/23/reporter-clinton-e-mails-would-have-been-safer-ashley-madison (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/jeffrey-meyer/2015/08/23/reporter-clinton-e-mails-would-have-been-safer-ashley-madison)
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Clinton emails and server would have been more secure with Ashley Madison...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/jeffrey-meyer/2015/08/23/reporter-clinton-e-mails-would-have-been-safer-ashley-madison (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/jeffrey-meyer/2015/08/23/reporter-clinton-e-mails-would-have-been-safer-ashley-madison)
I saw Fred Francis, on FNC, say as much yesterday. Damn near spit water out of my mouth at hearing that.
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I know many of the Dem party sheeple will vote for whoever they're told, but I keep trying to figure out how a Slow Joe/Fauxchaontas ticket excites the general population. Dear Leader will appeal to the black voters to support Slow Joe like they did him, but younger people (who generally don't vote in strong numbers anyway) are worse off than they were, and you're bound to upset the women who wanted to vote for Hillary who will smell the setup (and I doubt Fauxchaontas will be considered an ample substitute). Also, when it all comes down to it, the candidate has to be the one who wins it, and Slow Joe doesn't inspire anyone to do anything other than fall asleep or vomit.
The Dems have a bunch of old farts that appeal to the 60's hippie types, and that's it. They're seeing this as their last chance at a hurrah.
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It would actually be a lot like McCain-Palin. A Presidential candidate who has lukewarm support at best with the party stalwarts but very little of that in the base, with a VP candidate who actually excites a big percentage of the base (Not as much as Sanders, but a Socialist-Lite/Nanny-state substitute who will also appeal to the women who are stupid enough to vote for a candidate solely based on her XX chromosomes as long as there is a D after her name, i.e. most Democrat women). Might have worked for the GOP if they hadn't been up against 97-odd percent of a historically-huge fraction of the Black vote turning out to put Obozo in the driver's seat, backed by every national press organ but Fox News. Beating it would depend entirely on what the GOP brings to the general election, if it's some totally homogenized vanilla mush that can't distinguish itself from the Dems and leaves the base cold, a Biden-Fauxahontas ticket would have a pretty strong chance of winning.
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Star Member Autumn (22,960 posts)
4. It's not surprising. Many of us knew the media and the GOP would be attacking her
24/7 over her e mail actions and anything else they can find. That's what they do, she should have known that. She lived it during her White House years. The question is how much will the people endure before they become fatigued with having to defend her for her actions?
Perhaps if she hadn't done anything illegal there would be nothing to defend. Just a thought.
Cindie
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Apprehending a phenomenon and intellectually/emotionally acceding the consequences are two different things.
Proglodytes are very ego-driven creatures.
Can anybody point to a solid reason why Hillary wants to be POTUS except her ego?
Oh sure, Snugs, it's because she's OWED, dammit, for all those years of humiliation where she and Bill kept fighting one another for that next piece of ass. :o
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Perhaps if she hadn't done anything illegal there would be nothing to defend. Just a thought.
Cindie
Hannity way saying that if she had admitted to wiping the server (or ordering a subordinate to do it), she'd have admitted to a felony. I can't remember which law, but IIRC, it was somewhere in 18 USC.
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Oh sure, Snugs, it's because she's OWED, dammit, for all those years of humiliation where she and Bill kept fighting one another for that next piece of ass. :o
Just like Dole, Clinton thinks it's her "turn." Liberals also think it's her "turn," the same way the DUmmies sometimes wax Dumbastic about what a good POTUS the First Wookie would be. And then her daughters.
Notice how none of them ever discuss the legal issues - they just assume it's ok to have your own private email thing going. She should get at least what Petraeus got, and probably worse. And when she finally bows out, the DU tears will be tastier than a bottle of Sea Smoke.
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Just like Dole, Clinton thinks it's her "turn." Liberals also think it's her "turn," the same way the DUmmies sometimes wax Dumbastic about what a good POTUS the First Wookie would be. And then her daughters.
Notice how none of them ever discuss the legal issues - they just assume it's ok to have your own private email thing going. She should get at least what Petraeus got, and probably worse. And when she finally bows out, the DU tears will be tastier than a bottle of Sea Smoke.
I've never had Sea Smoke, but if it's snything like DUmmy tears, it must be yummy and sweet indeed.
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I don't think the muslim or any significant democrat is worrying too much at this point about electability.
With the crazies deserting en masse to Trump, the Hildebeast, or even Sanders, has an easy win.
The only threat to a 2016 democrat candidate is if the Trump silliness is stamped out completely, with no 3rd party threat, sometime in the next few months.
Neither party can win without at least half-hearted support from its crazy wing, and Fauxcohontas will do nicely for the democrats.
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I don't think the muslim or any significant democrat is worrying too much at this point about electability.
With the crazies deserting en masse to Trump, the Hildebeast, or even Sanders, has an easy win.
The only threat to a 2016 democrat candidate is if the Trump silliness is stamped out completely, with no 3rd party threat, sometime in the next few months.
Neither party can win without at least half-hearted support from its crazy wing, and Fauxcohontas will do nicely for the democrats.
The last time Trump ran he got bored and got out. He does seem more dedicated this time so we'll have to wait and see. I just think a lot of other very good candidates are being ignored because they don't have his bluster or fame. In the end, I don't think (well I hope) that will matter. I appreciate much of what Trump has to say but I'm having a very, very difficult time thinking he's genuine. His larger than life ego is not different than 0bama's. Anyone's who's more concerned about being treated fairly by a political machine than the very serious issues we face doesn't sit well at all. If this were a movie, he'd be the Music Man convincing everyone their kids need trombone lessons.
And I definitely don't like it when he does things like carry on his ridiculous stompy-foot non-feud with Megyn Kelly. How is this any different than 0bama continuing to call people who oppose his Iran deal names? Today we're crazies. Someone who's serious about the issues facing this country would get over it by now. To continue to stir up his rabid supporters (all candidates have them, this isn't a slight on Trump) and start another round of name calling shows a lack of maturity, an overly sensitive ego and a vicious streak that absolutely must pound another person into the ground. The woman is harmless, he's already done enough. It was a ****ing debate. It's over. She's a decent human being who asked stupid questions that were designed to impress others in the press and throw him off his game. This won't be the last time this kind of thing happens to him so he better buck up and keep his over inflated sense of self in check. This type of thing will definitely happen with world leaders he has to work with on issues like defeating ISIS. Do you think they're going to take him seriously or want to work with him if he's acting like the 6th grade bully?
Cindie