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Title: primitives discuss why Jimmeh didn't get a second term
Post by: BattleHymn on August 22, 2015, 04:22:33 PM
And I bet you'll never guess why:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027100749

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Sat Aug 22, 2015, 01:05 PM
Star Member rbrnmw (3,466 posts)

If America were truly a "Christian" nation Jimmy Carter should have won reelection.

Reagan was Hollywood whose wife consulted psychics. Jimmy Carter was a Sunday School teacher, who practiced what he preached. Just look at Trump's polling numbers. Republican Evangelicals are inconsistent at best.

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Sat Aug 22, 2015, 01:10 PM
SamKnause (4,568 posts)
2. Republican Evangelicals are inconsistent at best.

The are hateful, spiteful, evil, ignorant, and insane.

I am tired of ***** footing around this issue.

All religious fanatics (globally) should be called out at every opportunity !!!

They should be publicly shamed.

They are a scourge on this planet.

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Sat Aug 22, 2015, 01:10 PM
Star Member hedgehog (35,208 posts)
3. I don't have time to look up exit polls from back then,

but for me, Carter was a disappointment at that time because he seemed to be giving in to what is now called the Third Way. What people knew of him was very much a product of the main stream media - the big three networks and a couple news magazines. I suspect that Reagen won in part due to a lack of enthusiasm for Carter. Just a reminder for us today to support the Democratic nominee even if our first choice doesn't get that nomination.

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Sat Aug 22, 2015, 01:30 PM
Star Member ruffburr (956 posts)
4. Reagan-

And his cohorts rigged the election with Iranian co-operation , There are articles and documentary's about who and what happened, In other words Jimmy Carter was cheated out of office, That my friends is the beginnings of the neo-con take over of our government, We have been being Trickled on for 40years, Are you wet yet?

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Sat Aug 22, 2015, 03:56 PM
Star Member loyalsister (8,557 posts)
10. Reagan played that masterfully

The Billy Graham crusade was in full force in the 70s. Prosperity theology and end times horrors played right into Reagan's greed is good message right along with the hawkishness in the Middle East that served to reinforce the end times messaging.

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Sat Aug 22, 2015, 04:36 PM
Star Member loyalsister (8,557 posts)
16. And they were held in giant arenas

It was really disgusting. I remember that my parents attended one and afterwards, my dad would yell "I am prosperity!!" whenever he was feeling discouraged.

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Sat Aug 22, 2015, 05:00 PM
Star Member Scurrilous (27,637 posts)
19. Reagan also eschewed church attendance.

He did it (so he claimed) to protect his fellow church goers who might be put at some sort of risk (terrorists? ninjas?) if he sat among them on Sundays. Said the preacher was cool with it. The Lord too. 

Title: Re: primitives discuss why Jimmeh didn't get a second term
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on August 22, 2015, 04:30:58 PM
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SamKnause (4,568 posts)
2. Republican Evangelicals are inconsistent at best.

The are hateful, spiteful, evil, ignorant, and insane.

I am tired of ***** footing around this issue.


Uh huh.  Tell me more.....

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All religious fanatics (globally) should be called out at every opportunity !!!

They should be publicly shamed.

They are a scourge on this planet.

By Gaia, you're right!  You betcha.

(http://s3.india.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/isis-beheading.jpg)

Artists Conception of Everyday Christians.


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Sat Aug 22, 2015, 05:00 PM
Star Member Scurrilous (27,637 posts)
19. Reagan also eschewed church attendance.  He did it (so he claimed) to protect his fellow church goers who might be put at some sort of risk (terrorists? ninjas?)  :o  if he sat among them on Sundays. Said the preacher was cool with it. The Lord too.

 :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

You mongoloids rarely disappoint.    :stoner:  Besides, if that drivel is even 1% accurate, do you blame him?  One of your soul brothers already popped some .22 at him.

Sounds to me like the Christian thing to do.
Title: Re: primitives discuss why Jimmeh didn't get a second term
Post by: 67 Rover on August 22, 2015, 04:34:27 PM
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Sat Aug 22, 2015, 04:36 PM
Star Member loyalsister (8,557 posts)
16. And they were held in giant arenas

It was really disgusting. I remember that my parents attended one and afterwards, my dad would yell "I am prosperity!!" whenever he was feeling discouraged.

Serenity now!
Title: Re: primitives discuss why Jimmeh didn't get a second term
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on August 22, 2015, 04:39:00 PM
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Sat Aug 22, 2015, 04:36 PM
Star Member loyalsister (8,557 posts)
16. And they were held in giant arenas

It was really disgusting. I remember that my parents attended one and afterwards, my dad would yell "I am prosperity!!" whenever he was feeling discouraged.

 :rotf:   :diebouncy:  Choke yourself.  Soon.
Title: Re: primitives discuss why Jimmeh didn't get a second term
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on August 22, 2015, 05:18:07 PM
Nice strawman you made and knocked down, there, DUmmies.  No relation to what actually went down, of course, but then we expect that of you.
Title: Re: primitives discuss why Jimmeh didn't get a second term
Post by: Carl on August 22, 2015, 07:28:02 PM
Peanut lost in 1980 because the large majority of the population in that day recoiled from someone telling them they should accept failure.

Sadly now the democrat party has made failure a career goal.  :censored:
Title: Re: primitives discuss why Jimmeh didn't get a second term
Post by: SVPete on August 23, 2015, 07:46:39 AM
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Sat Aug 22, 2015, 01:10 PM
SamKnause (4,568 posts)
2. Republican Evangelicals are inconsistent at best.

The are hateful, spiteful, evil, ignorant, and insane.

I am tired of ***** footing around this issue.

All religious fanatics (globally) should be called out at every opportunity !!!

ZZZzzzzzzzz ... physician heal thyself ...

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Sat Aug 22, 2015, 01:10 PM
Star Member hedgehog (35,208 posts)
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I suspect that Reagen sic won in part due to a lack of enthusiasm for Carter. Just a reminder for us today to support the Democratic nominee even if our first choice doesn't get that nomination.

Comes close to the truth, and then careens away. The American people rejected Carter because he was a micro-managing inadequate failure.

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Sat Aug 22, 2015, 01:30 PM
Star Member ruffburr (956 posts)
4. Reagan-

And his cohorts rigged the election with Iranian co-operation , ...

Speaking of careening, off "we" go into ConspiracyTheoryLand. Is this the version where mid-50YO G. H. W. Bush, former WW2 torpedo bomber pilot, takes the controls of an SR-71 after (probably) not having flown a plane in over 30 years and flies off to Paris to meet with the Iranians, and ...? Geesh, what a fantasy-world-dwelling moron ... not worth an exclamation point or three ...

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Sat Aug 22, 2015, 03:56 PM
Star Member loyalsister (8,557 posts)
10. Reagan played that masterfully

The Billy Graham crusade was in full force in the 70s. Prosperity theology and end times horrors played right into Reagan's greed is good message right along with the hawkishness in the Middle East that served to reinforce the end times messaging.

Billy Graham was not into "Prosperity theology" or "end times horrors". Though maybe that degree of ignorance of 1970s Evangelical Christianity would make that mistake understandable. And the 1970s Pre-Mil-Pre-Trib-Late-Great-Planet-Earth theology that was popular at the time came close to having an, "It's all going to burn and we won't be here, so why bother," attitude toward politics (an over-simplification and painting with a broad brush, but I'm willing to point that out, since it speaks to the complexity of people this DU-member has never cared to understand).

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Sat Aug 22, 2015, 04:36 PM
Star Member loyalsister (8,557 posts)
16. And they were held in giant arenas

It was really disgusting. I remember that my parents attended one and afterwards, my dad would yell "I am prosperity!!" whenever he was feeling discouraged.

Graham Crusades were held in "giant arenas"? How horrible ... that 10s of thousands came every night to hear and consider Billy Graham's message! I can see that striking fear into the heart of a Lib/Prog on DU!

But this post is pure, entirely false, unadulterated-by-truth, :bouncy: , for the simple reason that Billy Graham has never taught "Prosperity Theology", nor anything close thereto. And I don't think anyone else was doing arena/stadium crusades in the late 70s. For that matter, those who did/do teach the prosperity "gospel" would never say, '"I am prosperity!!"' That just isn't their vocabulary. So this whole "my parents attended one" is a :bouncy: intended to get DU-Cred-Points (and probably a slander of his/her possibly dead parents).

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Sat Aug 22, 2015, 05:00 PM
Star Member Scurrilous (27,637 posts)
19. Reagan also eschewed church attendance.

He did it (so he claimed) to protect his fellow church goers who might be put at some sort of risk (terrorists? ninjas?) if he sat among them on Sundays. Said the preacher was cool with it. The Lord too.

Ummmm ... no. Reagan declined to attend church - the one fact in this post - but did so so that the inevitable Secret Service entourage would not distract other worshipers or disrupt any church's services. What this DU-member omits (or of which this DU-member is ignorant) is that Reagan arranged for a minister to come to the WH and do a private service (IIRC, staff members who wanted to could attend). As for, "some sort of risk (terrorists? ninjas?)," this is just an anachronistic slander. Terrorism wasn't a threat yet on US soil, and would-be assassins like Hinkley (whose failure - barely - I'm sure is a disappointment to some DU-folk to this day) would have had but one target, Reagan.
Title: Re: primitives discuss why Jimmeh didn't get a second term
Post by: Patriot Guard Rider on August 23, 2015, 08:04:21 AM
Yea. How I long for the days of Jimmeh. 22% interest rate on my new car (and I got the good rate), 55 mph speed limit and 58 degrees inside, during winter. Yes, good times.

Title: Re: primitives discuss why Jimmeh didn't get a second term
Post by: SVPete on August 23, 2015, 08:43:15 AM
Yea. How I long for the days of Jimmeh. 22% interest rate on my new car (and I got the good rate), 55 mph speed limit and 58 degrees inside, during winter. Yes, good times.

Don't forget gas lines and even/odd days. And the excruciating pleasure of being reminded, nightly, for over 400 days, that some chest-beating primitives were holding Americans hostage, courtesy of Carter's stupidity and incompetence.
Title: Re: primitives discuss why Jimmeh didn't get a second term
Post by: Patriot Guard Rider on August 23, 2015, 08:47:52 AM
Don't forget gas lines and even/odd days. And the excruciating pleasure of being reminded, nightly, for over 400 days, that some chest-beating primitives were holding Americans hostage, courtesy of Carter's stupidity and incompetence.

Stop already. I'm waxing nostalgic for those bygone days.
Title: Re: primitives discuss why Jimmeh didn't get a second term
Post by: SVPete on August 23, 2015, 08:51:53 AM
Stop already. I'm waxing nostalgic for those bygone days.

Maybe some wonderful disco "music" from the BeeGees or a brainworm from ABBA could cure your nostalgia?
Title: Re: primitives discuss why Jimmeh didn't get a second term
Post by: Patriot Guard Rider on August 23, 2015, 09:02:54 AM
Maybe some wonderful disco "music" from the BeeGees or a brainworm from ABBA could cure your nostalgia?

It isn't often I'm held speechless..:)
Title: Re: primitives discuss why Jimmeh didn't get a second term
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on August 23, 2015, 09:40:28 AM
Yea. How I long for the days of Jimmeh. 22% interest rate on my new car (and I got the good rate), 55 mph speed limit and 58 degrees inside, during winter. Yes, good times.
Just wear a sweater!
Title: Re: primitives discuss why Jimmeh didn't get a second term
Post by: Reagan for Rushmore on August 23, 2015, 09:47:27 AM
It's amazing that the Dummies have forgotten Reagan's simple message...."Are you better off now than you were four years ago?"

Jimmeh didn't get re elected simply because he was incompetent.

He had a triple threat going against him. Double digit unemployment, Double digit inflation, and double digit interest rates.

Couple that with his decision to depend totally on satellites for foreign information rather than hard human intell assets on the ground with Admiral Stansfield Turner of the CIA  and his support of the release of the Ayatollah Khomeni from French exile because he was a "religious man" is the direct cause of the entire mess in the Middle East.

Camp David accords were great, but the true statesman Anwar Sadat paid the ultimate price at the hands of Islami  Jihadiis.

Carter was and is a WCF
Title: Re: primitives discuss why Jimmeh didn't get a second term
Post by: JohnnyReb on August 23, 2015, 09:57:24 AM
He had a triple threat going against him. Double digit unemployment, Double digit inflation, and double digit interest rates.

Coming again soon to a store/town/country near you...hmmm...think I'll boil some peanuts in memory of those wonderful days.

Somebody...anybody....please kick my ass for that. :-)
Title: Re: primitives discuss why Jimmeh didn't get a second term
Post by: Patriot Guard Rider on August 23, 2015, 10:00:48 AM
Coming again soon to a store/town/country near you...hmmm...think I'll boil some peanuts in memory of those wonderful days.

Somebody...anybody....please kick my ass for that. :-)

I'll send Ronda Rousey right over. She'll give you an ass kicking you won't believe...:)
Title: Re: primitives discuss why Jimmeh didn't get a second term
Post by: JohnnyReb on August 23, 2015, 10:04:17 AM
I'll send Ronda Rousey right over. She'll give you an ass kicking you won't believe...:)
Lets not over do it now.... :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Will she be naked? :-)
Title: Re: primitives discuss why Jimmeh didn't get a second term
Post by: Patriot Guard Rider on August 23, 2015, 10:08:03 AM
Lets not over do it now.... :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Will she be naked? :-)

You see, that's where the ass kickin comes in cause, YOU gotta remove her clothes and she HATES to be naked.

p.s. if you do this, put in on pay per view first
Title: Re: primitives discuss why Jimmeh didn't get a second term
Post by: 67 Rover on August 23, 2015, 10:52:14 AM
I'll send Ronda Rousey right over. She'll give you an ass kicking you won't believe...:)

Probably the only person in the world that could knock Ronda out would be Bill Cosby.  :-)
Title: Re: primitives discuss why Jimmeh didn't get a second term
Post by: Mr Mannn on August 23, 2015, 11:30:18 AM
Liberals hate any president who is not a liberal. That is the bottom line here.

Reagan won in not one but TWO landslides. He was beloved by the nation. When he passed, the nation mourned...and that caught the liberals by surprise. They cannot understand why a non-liberal would be loved so much.

When Carter goes, the libs will expect the same treatment, and he won't get it. The media will have to manufacture a wounded nation to sooth the libs.

Regan was one of the greatest presidents ever. Carter was one of the worst. Liberal foundations are built upon hate, so they will never understand the difference.
Title: Re: primitives discuss why Jimmeh didn't get a second term
Post by: obumazombie on August 23, 2015, 12:16:09 PM
Just wear a sweater!

How dare you ?
Just who do you think you are ?
You think you can just go out and buy a sweater to wear in the Carter economy ?
The only growth evident during the Carter years was exponential growth in knitting club membership.
Title: Re: primitives discuss why Jimmeh didn't get a second term
Post by: Reagan for Rushmore on August 23, 2015, 02:00:58 PM
Reagan is who the libs run against every election. Hasn't held office for 27 years.  Been gone over a decade and they still FEAR him.
Title: Re: primitives discuss why Jimmeh didn't get a second term
Post by: Ptarmigan on August 23, 2015, 06:07:02 PM
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Sat Aug 22, 2015, 01:05 PM
Star Member rbrnmw (3,466 posts)

If America were truly a "Christian" nation Jimmy Carter should have won reelection.

Reagan was Hollywood whose wife consulted psychics. Jimmy Carter was a Sunday School teacher, who practiced what he preached. Just look at Trump's polling numbers. Republican Evangelicals are inconsistent at best.
Jimmy Carter lost in 1980 because of the economy and Iran. It has nothing to do with Christians.
Title: Re: primitives discuss why Jimmeh didn't get a second term
Post by: Ptarmigan on August 23, 2015, 06:07:41 PM
Reagan is who the libs run against every election. Hasn't held office for 27 years.  Been gone over a decade and they still FEAR him.

The left holds deep seated grudges against Ronald Reagan. They have Barack Obama right now.
Title: Re: primitives discuss why Jimmeh didn't get a second term
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on August 23, 2015, 09:17:05 PM
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Sat Aug 22, 2015, 01:30 PM
Star Member ruffburr (956 posts)
4. Reagan-

And his cohorts rigged the election with Iranian co-operation
, ...


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Speaking of careening, off "we" go into ConspiracyTheoryLand. Is this the version where mid-50YO G. H. W. Bush, former WW2 torpedo bomber pilot, takes the controls of an SR-71 after (probably) not having flown a plane in over 30 years and flies off to Paris to meet with the Iranians, and ...? Geesh, what a fantasy-world-dwelling moron ... not worth an exclamation point or three ...

Having observed these paramecium in their natural habitat for this long, I should know better by now, but how they came up with that one is a complete mystery to me.   

Beyond :mental:
Title: Re: primitives discuss why Jimmeh didn't get a second term
Post by: SVPete on August 24, 2015, 07:35:12 AM

Having observed these paramecium in their natural habitat for this long, I should know better by now, but how they came up with that one is a complete mystery to me.   

Beyond :mental:

This conspiracy theory is so old that it's now 3rd- and 4th-generation parameciae excreting it.

They find it suspicious that the Iranians released the hostages soon after Reagan was inaugurated. Reality is simpler: it was a final insult against Jimmy Carter and a recognition that Reagan would act ... ummm ... much less weakly.
Title: Re: primitives discuss why Jimmeh didn't get a second term
Post by: tanstaafl on August 24, 2015, 04:04:34 PM
This conspiracy theory is so old that it's now 3rd- and 4th-generation parameciae excreting it.

They find it suspicious that the Iranians released the hostages soon after Reagan was inaugurated. Reality is simpler: it was a final insult against Jimmy Carter and a recognition that Reagan would act ... ummm ... much less weakly.

Yeah. What SVPete said.
Title: Re: primitives discuss why Jimmeh didn't get a second term
Post by: GOBUCKS on August 24, 2015, 06:10:16 PM
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The left holds deep seated grudges against Ronald Reagan.

He destroyed a couple of things democrats held dear: the Soviet Union, and the stranglehold of labor unions over the American economy.
Title: Re: primitives discuss why Jimmeh didn't get a second term
Post by: franksolich on August 27, 2015, 05:06:41 AM
You know, the primitives--as usual--are lying, when they say they "don't know" why Jimmy was defeated in 1980.  They know damned well why.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMuWVsPQbwM

Because I had nothing else going on last night (Wednesday night), I sat down and watched this whole thing, from beginning to end, so as to refresh my memory.  It gave me a stiff neck and a massive headache, but it was worth it.

I see now that there's also a youtube available with Walter Cronkite and CBS News covering the 1980 elections, too; I would rather have watched that one, and suppose I will.