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Title: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: dutch508 on August 19, 2015, 07:14:09 PM
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MrScorpio (63,038 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/118723299

Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down...

Do you remember a while ago when this supposedly black woman suddenly wasn't black anymore? Do you remember how DU screamed bloody murder about a VRWC hit job until it came out she really REALLY wasn't black?

Hmmm....

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And it was all a lie, for nothing. A conservative, White publication said something was true, put up a few video clips and a Black woman, who wasn’t even given the opportunity to tell her side of the story, lost her job because of it.
~ Sherrod

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Breitbart obtained excerpts from a speech Sherrod gave at the at an NAACP event. The site chopped and screwed the video and painted Sherrod as a racist. When in actuality, her speech warned people not to let their personal prejudices stand in the way of helping someone and developing quality friendships.

No--- they played what she said.

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Erich Bloodaxe BSN (10,327 posts)
1. If all I knew about Mr King was seeing that picture I would have thought he was white too. He looks 'white'.

But why should it matter? Haven't we heard that Black Lives Matter doesn't discriminate, that white members are welcome too?

And how old is this story? Isn't Breitbart dead?

What does it matter that one of the leaders of BLM is really white?

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Star Member tblue (16,114 posts)
8. They're tearing him up on Twitter

I can't stand it. If you have a Twitter account, Shaun could use some support.

The police are already refuting the 'assault' back in High School.

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Star Member enough (8,422 posts)
9. Can we only learn certain things from certain people? I've learned a lot from Shaun King's ongoing constant work at Daily Kos. I never wondered what "race" he is.

I hope this won't derail him. I don't think it will.

Another leftist who hates himself so much he became someone else.

 :thatsright:
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on August 19, 2015, 07:31:25 PM
Good find, Dutch.  I was looking for Faux King threads all day.  Should have known it would be Mrs. Corpio. 

 :cheersmate:

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Star Member tblue (16,114 posts)
8. They're tearing him up on Twitter

I can't stand it. If you have a Twitter account, Shaun could use some support.

Go for it.  The black community is reaming  him a new one.  Join in!

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The police are already refuting the 'assault' back in High School.

 :rotf:

Down with the cause, I give you, His Royal Blackness, Shaun King:
(http://louderwithcrowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Screen-Shot-2015-08-19-at-1.56.44-PM-1015x1024.png)

http://louderwithcrowder.com/caught-blacklivesmatter-activist-shaun-king-is-actually-white/
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: Carl on August 19, 2015, 07:35:39 PM
God,you are an idiot Dorkio.
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on August 19, 2015, 07:44:54 PM
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Star Member enough (8,422 posts)
9. Can we only learn certain things from certain people? I've learned a lot from Shaun King's ongoing constant work at Daily Kos. I never wondered what "race" he is.

Learning from lies?  Hmmmmmm...............  where have we seen this on a daily basis?  Hmmmmm.....

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I hope this won't derail him. I don't think it will.

Hold your breath for 24 business hours.
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: obumazombie on August 19, 2015, 08:16:44 PM
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Breitbart obtained excerpts from a speech Sherrod gave at the at an NAACP event. The site chopped and screwed the video and painted Sherrod as a racist. When in actuality, her speech warned people not to let their personal prejudices stand in the way of helping someone and developing quality friendships.


Sherrod was a raging anti white racist.
Then the day came when she got reparations.
She sued the Federal government for trying to put her out of business as a "farmer".
The land she had barely could fit within the loosest definition of a "farm"
But, she was awarded 15 million out of the class action lawsuit.
Then she found it in her heart to not be an anti white racist anymore.

http://www.libertynewsonline.com/article_301_29166.php (http://www.libertynewsonline.com/article_301_29166.php)


Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: Fourwinds on August 19, 2015, 08:46:03 PM
I read about this guy today and immediately thought of this  :lmao:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9qYF9DZPdw[/youtube]
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: Ptarmigan on August 19, 2015, 09:34:20 PM
I posted a topic about this. It has links to the original blog. It goes back to June of this year. This got Rachel Dolezal all over it.  :mental:

http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=103968.0
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: SVPete on August 19, 2015, 09:47:32 PM
Libs & Progs have been "outing" and "doxing" those they hate for decades. Hey DU folk:

 :ownit:


 :marsattacks:
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: delilahmused on August 20, 2015, 12:57:43 AM
If being black is so oppressive and degrading and all, then why are all the white kids at the "cool kids" table trying to convince everyone they're black enough to be down with the struggle?

Cindie
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: txradioguy on August 20, 2015, 04:52:39 AM
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MrScorpio (63,038 posts)

Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down...

Sorry Scorpio X...but this moron did it to himself.  No dirty tricks involved other than the ones King pulled to get his scholarship.
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: miskie on August 20, 2015, 06:38:34 AM
Libs & Progs have been "outing" and "doxing" those they hate for decades. Hey DU folk:

 :ownit:


 :marsattacks:

Yeah, but they only out and dox the people that deserve it.

I hate to say it Dummies, but a pro-AA Minstrel Show is still a Minstrel Show.
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: Rebel on August 20, 2015, 07:39:30 AM
If Rachel Dolezal had a son...
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: JohnnyReb on August 20, 2015, 07:40:33 AM
Shame, shame, white people making money off the oppression of black people. Jesse and Al aren't going to like that.
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: 67 Rover on August 20, 2015, 08:10:03 AM
Just another in a long line of Rachel Dolezals.



Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: 67 Rover on August 20, 2015, 08:11:26 AM
Might as well throw this one in there too.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: SVPete on August 20, 2015, 08:16:49 AM
Let me see if I have this straight ...

Al Jolson doing black-face is RACISM!!!

Rachel Dolezal and Shaun King doing black-face is admirable activism.

 :mental: :thatsright: :mental: :thatsright: :mental: :thatsright: :mental: :thatsright: :mental: :thatsright: :mental: :thatsright: :mental: :thatsright: :mental:
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: obumazombie on August 20, 2015, 07:09:33 PM
I would love to have that chocolate lab in my family.
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: Fourwinds on August 20, 2015, 07:26:15 PM
Let me see if I have this straight ...

Al Jolson doing black-face is RACISM!!!

Rachel Dolezal and Shaun King doing black-face is admirable activism.

 :mental: :thatsright: :mental: :thatsright: :mental: :thatsright: :mental: :thatsright: :mental: :thatsright: :mental: :thatsright: :mental: :thatsright: :mental:

It depends on which side of the political spectrum you're on or if you're convenient. Gotta give liberals one thing, they'll go down with the ship of need be.
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: ColonelCarrots on August 20, 2015, 07:59:09 PM
His inspiration

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjBmrHPONt4[/youtube]
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: Ptarmigan on August 20, 2015, 09:57:35 PM
I suspect there will be more Rachel Dolezal's and Shaun King's out there. We have barely scratched the surface.
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: dutch508 on August 21, 2015, 12:04:17 AM
Shawn is now saying his mother had an affair and his real dad is black.

LMAO
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: Chris_ on August 21, 2015, 12:36:22 AM
Shawn is now saying his mother had an affair and his real dad is black.

LMAO
Maybe his real dad is Frank Marshall Davis. :whatever:

Stupid white kids.
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: Big Dog on August 21, 2015, 01:01:43 AM
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81-ph0YYLOE[/youtube]
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: dutch508 on August 21, 2015, 04:41:31 AM
Oh, dear, oh, dear.... It seems Mr. King's defense is now, "But I always felt black!"

From Breitbart:

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“Until this past week,” writes King, “never has anyone asked me who my father was during these 35 years of mine. It occurs to me now that I’ve never asked anyone that question either.”

Like much of what King says, that isn’t strictly true. For two months, bloggers and journalists have been asking King to comment on his ethnicity and to provide an explanation for the many inconsistencies in his public narrative. He didn’t do that; he blocked us all instead.

Now he has answered one looming question, at last. His defense until today appeared to be: my mother slept around, and never told me who my father was, and I still don’t know who he is but I’m sure he must have been black because I have always “felt” black and always enjoyed the company of black people.

Or: I don’t know who my dad is, but he’s definitely not the man on my birth certificate and he’s definitely black, but light-skinned. According to King, his mother told him yesterday, following our report, that she’d had an affair with a black man, who is his father.

Like everything else King says, this statement is best taken with a healthy dose of skepticism. There is no way to verify what he says, and no indication that King knows who his father is – only that he was black. Given how inconsistent King has been on other aspects of his biography, such as a “race hate” attack that may never have happened, the best approach may be to “trust, but verify.”

King has declined to perform the DNA test that would have provided an easy $25,000 from a black conservative group for Black Lives Matter and has not addressed the fact that his own extended family told both CNN and Breitbart that he was white.

King’s explanation of his own race, like Rachel Dolezal’s, boils down to feelings over facts. He has no idea who his biological father is, and has, by his own admission, never asked. But he felt an affinity for the black community, he says, so he identified as black. Were it not for our story, he would still be presenting himself as biracial without really knowing the truth.

Now he says he knows his father was a “light-skinned black man.” He knows this thanks to Breitbart’s reporting. He may not know who exactly his father is, and he may have chosen to represent himself as biracial for 30 years without being sure, but at least now – if he is telling the truth – he has achieved some degree of closure.

The Washington Post, to whom King gave an interview today, summarizes the case like this: “King said that he never knew who his biological father was, and realized at the age of 8 that he was likely biracial. He publicly identified as black throughout high school, and said by the time he went to college he ‘had honestly moved on from even wanting to know the details of who [his mother] slept with in January of 1979.'”

He writes: “A part of this story has always been that I never chose to be black/interracial. Not only was it chosen for me by birth, but white students and staff fundamentally rejected me. Furthermore, the black community, my peers, their parents, and local black leaders, seeing that I was, in essence, a kid without a community, embraced me in the deepest, most soul-soothing ways.”

“Every friend I had was black,” he continues, “my girlfriends were black, I was seen as black, treated as black, and endured constant overt racism as a young black teenager. Never have I once identified myself as white.”

Of course, King’s account of his childhood remains deeply unsatisfactory. He repeats a story about suffering from racist abuse at the hands of “rednecks” but does not address the questions that have been raised about his account and why it differs from the police report, nor why that report listed him as white.

He provides no comment on the many, very troubling financial allegations that are sure to dog him for the rest of this life, about which more is sure to be published here and elsewhere in the coming months. He doesn’t explain why he looks so similar to the man named on his birth certificate.

But at least there is the first step toward redemption in King’s admission that he accepted an Oprah scholarship without knowing whether or not he was eligible for one, and making no effort to find out.

Claiming to be biracial when you have no idea of your true ethnicity is a slightly lesser crime than claiming to be biracial when you know for a fact you are white. King says he had a hunch, in essence, but he never asked, perhaps because he didn’t want to know the answer. Now he knows.

Shaun King surrounded himself with black people: his wife, his daughters, his friends and his colleagues. By his own admission, he allowed them to believe in a state of affairs for which he had no evidence and about which he had cause for considerable doubt and confusion.

He doesn’t provide an explanation as to why a young boy who looked white and was raised by two white parents would adopt a black identity as an adult and become a leader in a movement called Black Lives Matter when he has no idea whether he was even biracial.

King’s extraordinary public meltdown and his evasion even in this apparently truthful confession have shown just what a mess identity politics in America now is. Perhaps, rather than welcoming in the Minority Wars that look set to define the next decade, American civil rights leaders and figureheads in the public square will start to argue with reason from facts, rather than relying endlessly on personal identity.

It may well be that King had a miserable childhood. Lots of us did. But most of us don’t weave a life story around rumor, speculation and shame and then leverage it for professional and educational advantage.

People who were always going to back King are backing King today. In responding to our story, Joy Reid at MSNBC and outlets like Gawker have attempted to smear our reporting as “racist.” Nothing could be further from the truth: it was black readers who first sent us questions about King, and it has been black readers who have moved this story forward, demanding answers to questions King has still not addressed about his charities’ finances.

It will remain a mystery why someone so troubled about his own racial identity could rise so far, so fast, in a movement dedicated to the advancement of African-Americans. But this chapter of King’s story, at least, is over for now. Breitbart’s reporting has been vindicated, and King’s family can finally move on.
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: dutch508 on August 21, 2015, 04:44:28 AM
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WIProgressive88 (75 posts)
39. Reading his DKos post regarding all of this right now...

and while it's beautifully written, it makes me feel like vomiting. How incredibly sickening that Mr. King has been forced to so publicly relive the pains of his past and share such personal information all because of some idiot Internet lynch-mob. And shame on the mainstream media outlets that were so eager to tear someone down that they ran with a story from ****ing Breitbart.

 :rotf:

Yes... poor old Mr. King... having to relive all those lies he's told everyone over the years...

Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: txradioguy on August 21, 2015, 05:05:23 AM
Remember with all things Liberal what they do is all feelings and emotion driven...not a dose of fact or reality ever comes into consideration with what they do.

That explains why the DUmp is so eager to rush to this wannabe's defense despite overwhelming evidence he's a pathological liar.
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: SVPete on August 21, 2015, 07:38:14 AM
I suspect there will be more Rachel Dolezal's and Shaun King's out there. We have barely scratched the surface.

Welcome to their corner of the Wonderful World of Race Preference!

Seriously! When unprincipled activists get a system of discrimination established, that system will be gamed by the self-same unprincipled people. What is bizarre is the lack of outrage by these activists when they learn their preferences system has been gamed by the unqualified/undeserving.
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: SVPete on August 21, 2015, 07:42:45 AM
Shawn is now saying his mother had an affair and his real dad is black.

LMAO

I hope his WHITE Mother and Father are really proud that he hyper-vehiculated his Mother!

I've been around children of "mixed" marriages/relationships most of my life. Mixed African-European ancestry children don't look like Shaun King. (Geez! The DU-fool couldn't bother to learn how the guy's name is spelled? What's up with that?)
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: SVPete on August 21, 2015, 07:45:07 AM
Oh, dear, oh, dear.... It seems Mr. King's defense is now, "But I always felt black!"

From Breitbart:

And I feel like a marathon runner ... not that I am in this real world.
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: USA4ME on August 21, 2015, 08:12:07 AM
Libs have told us for years that anyone would have to be crazy to pretend to be black or homo given how mistreated they are. So what does that make this nutso?

.
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: FlaGator on August 21, 2015, 08:54:15 AM
Libs have told us for years that anyone would have to be crazy to pretend to be black or homo given how mistreated they are. So what does that make this nutso?

.

Whites making use of 'black privilege'.
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on August 21, 2015, 09:07:50 AM
I am sure Shawn King saw this growing up.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFY2kJ96jNY[/youtube]
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: Big Dog on August 21, 2015, 09:12:04 AM
SHAUN KING SINGS ABOUT 'FEELING BLACK'

[youtube] https://youtube.com/watch?v=MgFDv_4oKsw

Feewigs, nuffim modam feewigs, tying ta foget my feewigs a nub...

Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: diesel driver on August 21, 2015, 10:10:35 AM
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And I feel like a marathon runner ... not that I am in this real world.

I feel like a professional motocross racer, and although I did race motocross 40 years ago, I feel I deserve another chance.
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: obumazombie on August 21, 2015, 10:17:02 AM
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People who were always going to back King are backing King today. In responding to our story, Joy Reid at MSNBC and outlets like Gawker have attempted to smear our reporting as “racist.” Nothing could be further from the truth: it was black readers who first sent us questions about King, and it has been black readers who have moved this story forward, demanding answers to questions King has still not addressed about his charities’ finances.

Another dirty little secret.
Blacks like to pretend that blacks can't be racist against other blacks.
But the fact and dirty little secret is, blacks are more racist towards other blacks than any other race is racist towards blacks.
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: Fourwinds on August 21, 2015, 11:31:26 AM
I guess the fact he basically stole a scholarship out of a black person's hands using his lies will have to remain an inconvenient truth over at DU.
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: obumazombie on August 21, 2015, 01:34:26 PM
I guess the fact he basically stole a scholarship out of a black person's hands using his lies will have to remain an inconvenient truth over at DU.

Affirmative action in reverse.
The opposite of affirmative action would be merit.
Although I doubt the poser merited anything he derived from his adopt-a-race.
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: SVPete on August 21, 2015, 02:04:34 PM
I guess the fact he basically stole a scholarship out of a black person's hands using his lies will have to remain an inconvenient truth over at DU.

I doubt he'll experience any consequences for defrauding Oprah, but the folks he's messing with now includes some pretty nasty thugs. He'd best be wearing asbestos-and-Kevlar suits!
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: ColonelCarrots on August 21, 2015, 07:58:32 PM
He's basically the opposite of Blacks without Soul and Don "No Soul" Simmons from Amazon Women on the Moon.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZRePZ1OqQE[/youtube]
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: SVPete on August 21, 2015, 09:38:05 PM
Maybe I'm just tired but a thought came to me ... how can white folk exposing a white pretending to be black be a racist act? The white folk doing the exposing are helping black folks avoid being further defrauded by Shaun King!
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: txradioguy on August 23, 2015, 04:02:22 AM
Maybe I'm just tired but a thought came to me ... how can white folk exposing a white pretending to be black be a racist act? The white folk doing the exposing are helping black folks avoid being further defrauded by Shaun King!
It's strictly a face saving measure by the left.
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: SVPete on August 23, 2015, 08:14:46 AM
It's strictly a face saving measure by the left.

Crazy ad hominem attacks against folks revealing unpleasant (to DU-folk) won't save their faces from being smacked by reality.

BLM is well into the process of self-destructing into Libs' & Progs' conspiracy-theory-fantasy-land. They'll be in good company with the Coffee Party and Occupooers.
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: jukin on August 23, 2015, 12:04:50 PM
Evan a simple blood test for sickle cell anemia could be done. The DNA would be conclusive and he will never take it. This clearly demonstrates he is not black, even by the one drop rule.
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: obumazombie on August 23, 2015, 01:08:04 PM
Just being white is racist.
Being objective is racist.
Yearning for freedom is racist.
Noticing social engineering is...

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Fresh off condemning libertarian "freedom" rhetoric as racist, TV producer David Simon, creator of the acclaimed HBO series "The Wire" and others, talked to Marcelo Rochabrun of the non-profit "public interest" news outlet ProPublica about his new miniseries "Show Me a Hero," on the desegregation of Yonkers, NY in the mid-1980s, after a federal judge ordered public housing projects to be built in white, wealthy parts of town.
Simon lamented "the dynamic of hyper-segregation," then explained the term with the illiberal gesture of making insulting generalizations about an entire race, while praising an ultra-leftist screed on white racism.

White people, by and large, are not very good at sharing physical space or power or many other kinds of social dynamics with significant numbers of people of color.
It’s been documented time and time again.

There is a great book by Andrew Hacker called “Two Nations.”
My God, it’s almost a quarter century old, but it is an incredible primer on just how specific the desire of white America is to remain in a hyper-majority.

Hacker's 1992 book, summarized by Publishers Weekly, is indeed a liberal screed blaming white racism for street violence and drug use by blacks: "Hacker... exposes white racism in politics, employment practices and education and the public's perception of crime and welfare.

Turning to blacks' "self-inflicted genocide'' through drugs and street violence, he argues that white America shares a large measure of responsibility for this situation because it has fostered a racial chasm--a divide that seems likely to persist unless drastic steps are taken."

Back to Simon:

The reason we wanted [reporter Lisa Belkin’s] book was that Yonkers was a place where the housing department actually got the housing right.
They didn’t overwhelm the neighborhood with a massive project or hundreds of walk-up units.

They were trying to do scattered-site housing for the first time, which has been this quiet revolution in public housing.
It works, it doesn’t destabilize neighborhoods.

But you were dealing with people who were entrenched behind the same fears as previous generations….

This project kept getting bumped a little bit to the back burner but every time we bumped it, in talking about it with the HBO executives, we’d say, “You know what, look, it just happened to Baltimore.”
They tried to do the same thing with scattered housing in eastern Baltimore County, and the white folks went batshit, batshit crazy.

At every point, there was a new fresh example that the dynamic was still there, that the racial pathology was still intact.
And I think it has only become more pronounced.

The show was greenlit before Ferguson, before Baltimore, before Charleston.

Simon blamed the stalling of "desegregation" after the Yonkers tumult on an underfunded Justice Department because of (three guesses) Ronald Reagan.




Because of how blistering Yonkers was, how insanely volatile and irrational Yonkers was.
You have to remember that this case was brought at the end of the Carter administration.

There wasn’t a single civil rights action filed by the Justice Department from 1980 to 1988 that mattered.
Reagan effectively shut down the civil rights division of the DOJ.

Then you had Clinton, who was doing everything he could during the Gingrich years to maneuver to the center.
The reason you didn’t have aggressive use of this legal precedent under Clinton is the same reason you have those omnibus crime bills that filled up prisons as fast as we can construct them.

Bill Clinton’s triangulation with the political center made things like fair housing prohibitive for his political priorities.

Asked if he had heard from residents during filming, Simon mentioned encounters with that dreaded libertarian rhetoric freedom and liberty that he had previously condemned as racial code.

....But every time we set up and started filming, people would come over, and we talked to people who were unrelenting in their belief that what was done was illegal and that the judge had no right to do this and that it was an affront to their freedom and their liberty.
They would come and tell us that, and we’d say “well, okay…”

The conversation took a conspiratorial turn when Simon argued that even the New Deal's housing was built with racism in mind to keep minorities segregated.
Conservatives can certainly agree that packing poor people into expensive government funded high-rises was ill-advised, but to call it a racist conspiracy to excuse the abysmal failure of the project?

Simon concluded that anyone who would dare accuse judges of "social engineering" as a racist.

I certainly don’t want to tell people what to watch until they watch it.
Just that we were very true to the history.

This is all predicated upon a 40-year history of American government at the federal, state and local level using public money to purposefully hyper-segregate our society.
Poor people didn’t end up all packed into housing projects in one square mile of Yonkers by accident.

It was a plan.
It was a plan in Chicago, in Baltimore, in Dallas and everywhere that took federal housing money since the 1930s.

The records, the history of it is in plain sight.
I have nothing but contempt for anybody who says that [the racial integration of Yonkers] was social engineering by this judge.

Really? You want to parse it that way?
What bullshit.

The social engineering begins in the 1930s, with FHA mortgages and with the first public housing monies in the New Deal. Republicans and Democrats are both complicit.

The idea that the social engineering starts at the moment that somebody might want to restore somebody to their full civil rights, 40 years into the rigged game.
And that’s when you object?

Sorry, that’s racist to begin your argument there.

Strange that Simon, after excoriating the racist origins of the federal government's housing administration program (more on that here), can somehow bash libertarians for disrespecting the very New Deal that birthed that housing program in the first place, while embracing even more involvement from that same federal government that ruined things the first time.



Objectivity is racist...

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tim-graham/2015/08/23/npr-assails-objectivity-dishonest-white-construct-while-black-lives (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tim-graham/2015/08/23/npr-assails-objectivity-dishonest-white-construct-while-black-lives)


Social engineering and freedom are racist...

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/2015/08/22/hbo-producer-david-simon-says-phrase-social-engineering-racist-too#sthash.4rvIj4N0.dpuf
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Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: jukin on August 23, 2015, 10:30:14 PM
My departed dad used to say "They won't be happy until they are white."  Wonder what he would say about today's culture, nothing good I'm sure.
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on August 24, 2015, 07:37:52 AM
Objectivity is racist...

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tim-graham/2015/08/23/npr-assails-objectivity-dishonest-white-construct-while-black-lives (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tim-graham/2015/08/23/npr-assails-objectivity-dishonest-white-construct-while-black-lives)


Social engineering and freedom are racist...

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/2015/08/22/hbo-producer-david-simon-says-phrase-social-engineering-racist-too#sthash.4rvIj4N0.dpuf
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When blacks move into white neighborhoods it's called desegregation and it's considered a good thing.

When whites move into black neighborhoods it's called gentrification and its considered a bad thing.

The only effective difference is who is allowed to have the power to decide and that is based on only 1 criteria: the decider must not be white.
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: SVPete on August 24, 2015, 07:48:38 AM
When blacks move into white neighborhoods it's called desegregation and it's considered a good thing.

When whites move into black neighborhoods it's called gentrification and its considered a bad thing.

The only effective difference is who is allowed to have the power to decide and that is based on only 1 criteria: the decider must not be white.

True, except there's 4 or 5 decades between. Those whining about "gentrification" are a generation "who knew not" Martin Luther King Jr..

The "gentrification" I'm aware of has been re-purposing and rehabilitating hell-holes and long abandoned industrial buildings into homes and neighborhoods in which decent people might actually want to live. To the degree the neighborhood might previously been majority-black, no one cares to think that the black people who lived there were more into making it a hell-hole or surviving in it (probably the majority of the neighborhoods' residents) than doing the very hard work to lift the neighborhood and/or themselves out of hell-hole-hood. Maybe the residents were unable, but why fight to keep a hell-hole a hell-hole?
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: olde north church on August 24, 2015, 08:09:36 AM
He's basically the opposite of Blacks without Soul and Don "No Soul" Simmons from Amazon Women on the Moon.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZRePZ1OqQE[/youtube]

A long time favorite of mine .... I'm presuming "Brother Louie" does NOT apply.
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: obumazombie on August 24, 2015, 08:51:29 AM
When blacks move into white neighborhoods it's called desegregation and it's considered a good thing.

When whites move into black neighborhoods it's called gentrification and its considered a bad thing.

The only effective difference is who is allowed to have the power to decide and that is based on only 1 criteria: the decider must not be white.

We are to be cowed and reeducated into thinking 3 fifths of a vote was racist.
Even though that was a legitimate compromise between the slavery loving libs/dems, and the freedom loving conservatives.
The slavery loving libs/dems didn't want blacks to vote at all so for voting purposes wanted the number to be ZERO fifths.
The conservatives wanted slaves to be liberated, and to have each black person's vote count for 5 fifths of a vote.
But for those that were able to make the slavery loving lib/dems include former slaves in the representative republic process, they were supposedly racist.
Going from zero to some representation was not a noble accomplishment, it was racist.
So now a doctoral candidate has come up with a plan for another form of reparations...


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The Sunday Outlook section of The Washington Post was dominated by a proposal for a “5/3 compromise.”
Theodore R. Johnson, a doctoral candidate in law at Northeastern University, proposed that since 94 percent of whites oppose financial reparations for blacks, there should be a political solution for the never-ending oppression of blacks:
giving them five-thirds of a vote to make up for the three-fifths compromise in the Constitution.

The headline was "The 5/3 Compromise:
Reverse a  historical injustice -- literally.

Give black voters a larger say."
Pay no attention to the fact that 94 percent of whites would probably oppose this too as a naked power grab.

Johnson and the Post want to linger over this proposal for racial justice:

A five-thirds compromise would imbue African Americans with a larger political voice that could be used to fight the structural discrimination expressed in housing, education, criminal justice and employment. Allowing black votes to count for 167 percent of everyone else’s would mean that 30 million African American votes would count as 50 million, substituting super-votes for the implausible idea of cash payments(not to mention Shirley Sherrod et al).

This weighted vote, coupled with an increasingly active black electorate that in 2012 had a higher voter participation rate than whites for the first time in history, would offer African Americans an outsize influence on national and state elections.
Politicians, finally, would have to truly compete for the black vote, or a substantial share of it, to attain or remain in office.

This would provide an incentive, even for purely self-interested politicians, to prioritize African American policy concerns and act on them, or face a loss at the polls....

What’s more, five-thirds has a redemptive, lyrical quality to it:
The weighted portion of the vote could be interpreted as the voice of those who earned the right to the ballot but were unjustly silenced.

Too sentimental?
Fine.

Economics and statistics could help assign the right value for proper weighting.
The magnitude of the challenges and the corresponding solution could be taken up by Congress as a giant math problem, but in the end, racial reconciliation requires a moral and political mandate to make black America whole.((so say the race hustlers)

This plan should be temporally limited in scope, since the point is not to permanently install a historical equivalence but to erase structural disadvantages. Weighted voting could be fixed to some predetermined period of years, say 24, which is only about a third of the number of years the three-fifths compromise was in place.

This sounds quite absurd in practice, because black lobbyists never see an end to their racial advantages in “affirmative action,” so why would they give up on a five-thirds system...and wouldn’t they then have the power to overturn any attempt to limit its term?
Then there’s the trouble of ...who’s black?(if you think I'm not black now wait till I get to be 5/3rds black)

Johnson takes a stab at that one:
Would a biracial voter qualify?

A black immigrant?
And what exactly is an election official to do when Rachel Dolezal shows up to claim her five-thirds vote?
The government shouldn’t be the sole arbiter of who gets to be black — nor flirt with archaic prescriptions such as the one-drop rule in determining a voter’s race.

The most straightforward approach would be to limit access to weighted voting to those American-born citizens who have demonstrated through government documents, such as drivers’ licenses or birth certificates, that they identify, and are identified by others, as black or African American.

This is doubly absurd, considering the black Left’s absolute horror at having to produce government documents before voting.
It would be automatically racist to ask if every Dolezal "identifying" as black gets to have an augmented vote.

Johnson knows this isn’t going to fly, but he wants to force some momentum toward reparations
:
“Of course, weighted-vote reparations are only slightly more politically feasible than a multi-trillion-dollar payout.

But we have to consider novel approaches to racial reconciliation — including apology, forgiveness and, yes, some kind of restitution”.





full article...


http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tim-graham/2015/08/23/washpost-promotes-electoral-reparations-lets-give-black-voters-five#sthash.SebB7I8Y.dpuf (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tim-graham/2015/08/23/washpost-promotes-electoral-reparations-lets-give-black-voters-five#sthash.SebB7I8Y.dpuf)
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: Big Dog on August 24, 2015, 09:33:13 AM
Here's a ratio which is guaranteed to throw the DUmmies into fits:Tie voting to taxation.

A person gets one vote for each $1,000 of income or capital gains tax paid in the previous tax year. It creates a course correction for candidates who would otherwise promise to raise taxes on 'them' to reward favored constituancies.

We can call it 'Investment in America'. I suspect Robert A Heinlein would approve.
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: obumazombie on August 24, 2015, 09:39:58 AM
Here's a ratio which is guaranteed to throw the DUmmies into fits:Tie voting to taxation.

A person gets one vote for each $1,000 of income or capital gains tax paid in the previous tax year. It creates a course correction for candidates who would otherwise promise to raise taxes on 'them' to reward favored constituancies.

We can call it 'Investment in America'. I suspect Robert A Heinlein would approve.

Agreed, although with a twist.
Bring in your income tax payment receipt when voting.
Every dollar in income(and/or capital gains) would be worth 1 vote.
That would also be an incentive for those high earners who legally or illegally shirk taxes to pay them.
Title: Re: Right wing racists and their dirty tricks trying to take Shawn King down
Post by: Big Dog on August 24, 2015, 10:23:08 AM
Agreed, although with a twist.
Bring in your income tax payment receipt when voting.
Every dollar in income(and/or capital gains) would be worth 1 vote.
That would also be an incentive for those high earners who legally or illegally shirk taxes to pay them.

I like the way you think!