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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Mr Mannn on August 13, 2015, 08:28:20 AM
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Liberals fall back on talking points when all else fails. Here they cannot even begin to address the issue.
The Obama administration like to fix problems by simply "declaring them fixed." This is just another example:
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/colorado-governor-says-worst-mine-waste-spill-appears-211954305.html
EPA chief: Colorado river hit by mine waste back to pre-spill quality
DURANGO, Colo. (Reuters) - The water quality of a southwestern Colorado river rendered bright orange by toxic waste spewed from an abandoned gold mine one week ago has returned to pre-existing levels, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency chief said on Wednesday.
The statement from EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy, whose agency's inspectors inadvertently triggered the spill during field work, came as Colorado health officials cleared the way for the city of Durango, just downstream, to reopen its drinking water intakes from the river.
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Dilution has gradually diminished concentrations of contaminants such as arsenic, mercury and lead. But experts say deposits of heavy metals have settled into river sediments, where they can be churned up and unleash a new wave of pollution when storms hit or rivers run at flood stage.
There you have it folks. Not a dime in clean up was spent, and a simple press release was all that was need to clean a river from Toxic death. Who knew that a press release was so powerful?
Pardon me is I do not trust the govt in this case.
Here is the It's too hard, lets not bother argument.
Troll2 (5,642 posts)
1. Once the mine let loose, there was no money to be made by the clean up industry
GoodCraic (589 posts)
2. On the contrary. I would think there is tons of money to be
made from cleaning up the river bed.
Troll2 (5,642 posts)
4. Cleaning up hundreds of miles of river bed is infeasible
You'd do way more damage than good.
here is the, "its all the republican's fault" argument
exindy (4,369 posts)
5. Real smart, go with the guy who made the mess
rather than the guy who made a mistake cleaning it up.
Brilliant. Shows why republicans are so crappy at governing. When you start yelling about how bad the gov't is, try to remember which group YOU put in charge. This particular mine has been leaking for 90 years.
90 F'ING years. NINETY!
If you are a fly-fisher, a rafter, or heck, just a person who drinks water, here is some troubling news: Our waterways are in rough shape. An eye-opening new report (PDF) from Environment America Research and Policy Center finds that industry discharged 226 million pounds of toxic chemicals into America's rivers and streams in 2010. The pollution included dead-zone-producing nitrates from food processors, mercury and other heavy metals from steel plants, and toxic chemicals from various kinds of refineries. Within the overall waste, the researchers identified 1.5 million pounds of carcinogens, 626,000 pounds of chemicals linked to developmental disorders and 354,000 pounds of those associated with reproductive problems.
followed by some bogus chart
It's important to note that the vast majority—if not all—of these releases are perfectly legal. I reached out to all of the companies on the list above and received a response from several. They all basically told me the same thing: "All discharges meet permit requirements," Cargill said. "This is a natural process that is fully licensed, and included as part of our wastewater discharge reporting," echoed McCain Foods.
We'll have to take their word for it, since the companies are not required to release the results of their chemical safety testing to the public, nor do they have to reveal how much of each chemical they are releasing. The Clean Water Act doesn't even apply to all bodies of water in the United States; exactly how big and important a waterway must be to qualify for protection has been the subject of much debate. Rivers get the big conservation bucks; they're the waterway equivalents of rhinos and snow leopards. But pollutants in oft-neglected ditches, canals, and creeks—the obscure bugs of the waterway world—also affect ecosystems and our drinking water quality. Sean Carroll, a federal field associate in Environment America's California office, estimates that 60 percent of US waterways aren't protected. "The big problem," he says, "is that we don't know how big the problem is."
http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2012/03/top-10-polluted-rivers-waterways
OTOH, nice that you're finally awake. Now what are YOU going to do about it?
The DU standard response to concern trolls
saspamco (2,962 posts)
6. Your concern is noted.
Gee Wally, the GOP was never concerned about pollution before...and its still your fault
Slayer (4,355 posts)
7. I notice you guys don't seem to really care about the pollution
Just trying to make someone else look bad, it isn't working btw...... It just makes the right wingers seem more dim than usual. I notice you guys are in true hypocritical fashion on this one. Nary a word when corporations are at fault in the name of profit! I wonder what law let them store all of that waste to begin with, or was it just another case of corporate greed? Milk it for all it's worth, and leave it for some one else clean up. I imagine that is closer to the truth without doing even the first second of research.
Not a one of them can address the basic facts of the article. The EPA did not a single thing to clean up the mess that it caused, and now declares its all fine and safe to drink.
When liberals face a situation without published talking points, they are helpless to discuss it
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This is sometimes the beauty of having a Dem in office. Republican does it, they're all mad. Democrat does it, they circle the wagons. Point out their hypocrisy and they have a grab-bag of ready excuses of why the two are totally different.
Ideology above truth. It's the liberal way.
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...and I bet democrats have never pissed in a swimming pool.
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And when these cities start using the water and the EPA gets the test results that are required to be done on drinking water, and they have all these high, high, levels of heavy metals (and other garbage) the city treatment plants will be the ones paying the fines!
Been there, done that.
KC
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This is sometimes the beauty of having a Dem in office. Republican does it, they're all mad. Democrat does it, they circle the wagons. Point out their hypocrisy and they have a grab-bag of ready excuses of why the two are totally different.
Ideology above truth. It's the liberal way.
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And if a Republican was president, they'd be screaming about how nothing was done other than a press release yada yada yada. The hypocrisy of the left is something to behold.
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Brilliant. Shows why republicans are so crappy at governing. When you start yelling about how bad the gov't is, try to remember which group YOU put in charge. This particular mine has been leaking for 90 years.
90 F'ING years. NINETY!
There's obama's out to this problem. He inherited the problem.
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There's obama's out to this problem. He inherited the problem.
Ostensibly, the Obamessiah was supposed to solve the problem, not make it worse.
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I read somewhere this morning that in their local paper, a retired geologist or something like that, wrote in a few weeks ago that the EPA was looking for an excuse to build a huge mine waste water plant and this would give it to them. He predicted that the EPA was going to go into this mine and the end result would be a blowout of this magnitude.
Turns out he was correct. Can't find the article now. It was linked on Drudge.