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marmar (67,581 posts)
The New Climate "Normal": Abrupt Sea Level Rise and Predictions of Civilization Collapse
The New Climate "Normal": Abrupt Sea Level Rise and Predictions of Civilization Collapse
Monday, 03 August 2015 00:00
By Dahr Jamail, Truthout | Report
We know things are a bit "off" when a rainforest is on fire.
Over 400 acres of the Queets Rainforest, located in Olympic National Park in Washington State, nearby where I live, have burned recently, and it is continuing to burn as I type this. Fires in these rainforests have historically been rare, as the area typically receives in excess of 200 inches of rain annually.
But this is all changing now.
The new normal is that there is no longer any "normal."
The new normal regarding climate disruption is that, for the planet, today is better than tomorrow.
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As if that's not enough, Hansen's study comes on the heels of another study published in Science, which shows that global sea levels could rise by at least 20 feet, even if governments manage to keep global temperature increases to within the agreed upon "safe" limit of 2 degrees Celsius. The study warns that it is quite possible that 75 feet of sea level rise could well already be unstoppable given current carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere and recent studies that show how rapidly Greenland and several Antarctic ice sheets are melting. ...............(more)
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/32131-the-new-climate-normal-abrupt-sea-level-rise-and-predictions-of-civilization-collapse
Climate collapse will occur in 24 business hours.
Bank on it.
cilla4progress (4,516 posts)
1. Agreed.
Better get ready. My reading is telling me that extra-terrestrials are watching and will be intervening shortly.
Sounds like I'm kidding ...
Sounds like you're nuttier than squirrel shit.
NRaleighLiberal (38,211 posts)
2. wow - what a sobering (and sadly, not surprising) read.
At least something came out of TO sober.
JDPriestly (50,793 posts)
5. Human civilization exceeded the capacity of the earth to nurture it
some time ago.
Is there really anything we can do to prevent a total or near total collapse?
Abort liberal children faster?
haikugal (2,836 posts)
6. Good, sober read...
There's that phrase again.
Hydra (11,800 posts)
7. Lots of us have wondered and asked if we have passed the tipping point
And I fear the answer is: A long time ago.
Tipping point = Fell off their bar stool
tex-wyo-dem (2,214 posts)
8. Climate change is, without a doubt, by far ...
The most important issue of our time. Everything else pales in comarison, because if you don't have a livable planet, nothing else really matters.
I came to the conclusion several years ago that a major shift in awareness, attitudes, technonogy and lifestyles was going to have to happen in a hurry to have a snowball's chance (you know the thing Inhofe threw on the Senate floor trying to make the point that global warming was not real) of averting societal catastrophe. I've had little hope that this could ever happen, but the recent and rapid shift in attitudes towards same-sex marriage has given me some positivity that we will see the same sort of transformation towards CC.
I have no doubt the anal-ogy of intervening to stop climate change and sodomy is closer than you suspect.
glinda (13,636 posts)
9. Very true. But I think the only solution in part is
that those who are pressing the actions that continue to obstruct and promote must be warned or imprisoned. I see no other way unless we are just going to stand around talking about it forever and a day.
cstanleytech (9,383 posts)
10. I disagree that climate change is the biggest.
Sure its in the top 5 atleast but the #1 is our total population, thats just not sustainable in the long term even if the climate wasnt changing.
Keep in mind these are the same people who will tell you in any other thread that the rich people of the world who presumably do nothing want to kill off the lower classes to take their wealth.
Unless these hipster douche-nozzles off themselves en masse to leave the earth to African bushmen I can't help but think that what they are describing are their own designs.
After all, which political faction is it that insists on fuding Planned Parenthood internationally?
Egnever (15,535 posts)
12. Ugh
"We need the deniers to get out of the way. They are risking everyone's future," Box told Esquire. "The Koch brothers are criminals.... They should be charged with criminal activity because they're putting the profits of their business ahead of the livelihoods of millions of people, and even life on earth."
I don't understand greed of that magnitude. It just does not compute.
Try looking in the mirror.
hedda_foil (8,347 posts)
14. Grim and Grimmer.
More bad news for the planets' oceans comes from a recent study that shows that plankton, the basis of the entire food chain, are threatened by ocean acidification. Some species of plankton will die out, while others will flourish, creating an imbalance that the report's authors say will be "a big problem," given that plankton produce half the total oxygen supply for the planet.
Pause for a moment before reading further and ponder the implications of that: The source of the world's oxygen is in major peril.
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Box thinks there is at least a 50 percent probability that the world is already on track to go well over the 2-degree Celsius politically accepted maximum limit of global warming, and agrees with most climate scientists that we are on a trajectory toward more like 4-5-degree Celsius warming in the near to mid-term future.
When asked what amount of warming would throw Greenland into irreversible ice loss, Box answered "between two and three degrees."
When Greenland goes, that is enough sea level rise to destroy every coastal city on the planet. Speaking of Antarctica, Box said: "Abrupt sea level rise is upon us."
7wo7rees (1,862 posts)
16. Dahr minces no words and tells it like it is.
He is an amazing young man. We had the privilege of dining with him at the Vets for Peace National Convention in 2005.
Telling each other scary campfire stories and then running out and trying to make law to imprison dissenters.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027040403
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Try it bitches,be prepared to join gaia in a dirt nap.
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glinda (13,636 posts)
9. Very true. But I think the only solution in part is
that those who are pressing the actions that continue to obstruct and promote must be warned or imprisoned. I see no other way unless we are just going to stand around talking about it forever and a day.
So Non believers must be put in camps, eh DUche? Will they have this gateway?
(http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/07/d7/04/6f/sachsenhausen-concentration.jpg)
Since the DUches are being so reasonable here, I agree with Carl. Molon Labe DUches. You WON'T like the outcome.
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Give 'em our rounds . . . one at a time. :killemall:
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Mankind under liberal rule will destroy itself long before any climatic tipping point is reached.
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Google "2030 Solar minimum" DUmmtards. Those scientists actually have used historical observations to validate their modeling, without having to fudge or (cough) "Smooth" (cough) the data.
If they're right, and on the very generous assumption that all the people who think atmospheric carbon drives the heat cycle rather than vise-versa or in a symbiotic system are absolutely correct, you'll be praying that you'd burned more bituminous coal before you die of starvation.
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Same idiots pissing themselves over this did the same thing back in 1974 over the Time magazine article about the coming I've age.
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They should be required to read every entry we have in our glow bull warming board before they can comment on DU about the great glow bull warming swindle.
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Give 'em our rounds . . . one at a time. :killemall:
They can have my guns when I'm dead, but they'd better be careful. The barrels may be hot. :killemall:
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7wo7rees (1,862 posts)
16. Dahr minces no words and tells it like it is.
He is an amazing young man. We had the privilege of dining with him at the Vets for Peace National Convention in 2005.
Hey! I remember you two. You were the ones always siting around the barracks reading comic books, in between endless rotations on shitter detail.
More bad news for the planets' oceans comes from a recent study that shows that plankton, the basis of the entire food chain, are threatened by ocean acidification. Some species of plankton will die out, while others will flourish, creating an imbalance How? that the report's authors say will be "a big problem," and....? given that plankton produce half the total oxygen supply for the planet. by processing Co2
:thatsright: What is it with you sCiEnCe!!11111 tards that only recognize part of the equation?
We know the answer. It just has to be repeated.