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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: BannedFromDU on July 30, 2015, 11:47:18 AM
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choie (1,440 posts)
Why the guilt trip?
First let me say...I love and care about people and I love and care about animals...
So I'd like to know why some DUers, some who I respect highly, are intent on making others (including me) feel guilty about being horrified at the killing of an innocent (read: non threatening) and endangered lion by a cruel, murderous asshole, whose desire it was to see the lion's head over his fireplace. Isn't it possible to be outraged over the deaths of innocent people while still having strong feelings over the illegal and needless death of an animal that was beloved by a nation? Is this a contest? Isn't enough that it's 24/7 of Bernie vs. Hillary; Democrats vs. DNC; Corporatists vs. Socialists. Must we also have a duel over this?
Choie
Pretty legit question: can't the DUmmies walk and chew gum at the same time? (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027025225)
The answer comes with all the sturm und drang of BainsBane removing her bra at the end of the day:
Star Member BainsBane (33,038 posts)
6. Ever stop to think it might not be about you?
That what might actually matter are black lives?
Oh, unSNAP! I didn't know she was in the BLM mafia! You know, the cadre of white folks on DU who tell other white DUmmies what do do, think, and feel about everything, including this whole lion thing.
Choie is en garde, however:
choie (1,440 posts)
8. Serioiusly??
Who the **** do you think YOU are? You don't know me...do you think you're the only person who cares about black lives? Take your ******* sanctimonious crap elsewhere.
Yes, Choie, she DOES think she's the only one who cares about black lives. After all, the rape era on DU is over, and the War on Women era is on hiatus. She's got to own SOMETHING.
Later...
Star Member BainsBane (33,038 posts)
17. Actually no
The entire discussion about black lives vs. the lion is to highlight the fact that black people are valued less in American society than animals. The problem is that when such discussions occur, many white people seem to focus first on their feelings. That is what happens with many discussions about racism, even the most lethal kinds. So when people point out the nature of our society in which black lives warrant less attention than Cecil, it speaks to the racism that allows that violence to be perpetuated. You have decided that is about making you feel guilty. My point was that it is not about you and your feelings, that whatever discomfort you might feel at having that disparity pointed out pales in comparison to the loss of human life, to what mothers around this country feel when their sons and daughters are killed by police. It is in fact a crucial point--the crucial point of anti-racism.
Translation: I just got into this BLM thing and I'm DAMNED if some LION is going to turn heads! When I want heads turned, I'll flash my milk trucks!
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Jugs,when everyone pretty much thinks you are a loud mouthed bitch then likely the problem isn`t them.
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Maybe if the dentist funded undergroundpanthers gender/species change surgery and bought her/it a ticket to Africa to replace the lion, maybe, just maybe, the DUmmies would forgive the dentist.
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Maybe if the dentist funded undergroundpanthers gender/species change surgery and bought her/it a ticket to Africa to replace the lion, maybe, just maybe, the DUmmies would forgive the dentist.
Seems to be about as legit as carbon offsets so why not?
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liberal = a$$hole. This is the case with every liberal I know...even the almost normal ones who would never post at DU.
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So much self-righteous yahoos at DU. They are way more of them at DU than at FR. :mental:
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Too bad aborted babies didn't come out black, maybe the left could be persuaded to care ever so slightly.
Cindie
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Ya know, when ...
... cat = cow = whale = ape = human = lizard = eagle = frog = ... when
... the handful of blacks killed by police (virtually all in the proper performance of their duty) matters than the even more whites killed by police and the >10X more blacks killed by other blacks (mostly murders) ... when
... more than a million human beings - living, maturing according to a known pattern, human DNA, genetically diverse from both parents - killed in the US because of a court's penstroke and for their killers' fun and profit ... when
... there is no rational basis for rational, proportional differentiating between a trophy-hunter, a very occasional cop who killed improperly, a street thug (of whatever skin color), a killer-for-hire, and Adolph Eichmann.
It's :popcorn: to see DU-folk running afoul of and urination-fighting each other over their ideology's silliness. :-)
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Too bad aborted babies didn't come out black, maybe the left could be persuaded to care ever so slightly.
Cindie
Inspiring more "Oh Snap!s" than a Tyler Perry movie festival. ^5
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How many black people did that lion eat? Looks like the dentist cared more about black people than the primitives do.
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Cecil's killer blames photographers, selective editing
George Stephanopolous: Did you murder Cecil in cold blood?
Dr. Palmer: The only guilty party are the undercover photographers who are trying to entrap me and they have been completely unsuccessful. That's why they are showing these highly edited photographs to be sensationalized. It's completely taken out of context... The folks behind this, in fact, are part of the most militant wing of the anti-hunting movement that has been behind, you know, the bombing of hunting farms... That's what actually needs to be -- to be looked at.
"My killing of Cecil is for the greater good," Dr. Palmer continued. "Africa is suffering from animal inequality, where privileged lions are at the top of the food chain, destroying the families of the disadvantaged hoofed animals and harassing their entire vegan collectives with impunity and with no animal advocacy group protecting their rights. Think of me as the animals' Robin Hood, warrior for animal justice, taking from the rich and giving to the poor. The killing of Cecil was an act of compassion that will better serve the animal equality of Next Tuesday."
The People's Cube (http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/cecil-the-lion-killer-blames-photographer-t16764.html#p194029)
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How many black people did that lion eat? Looks like the dentist cared more about black people than the primitives do.
:-)