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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: BannedFromDU on July 18, 2015, 02:49:09 PM
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Star Member DonViejo (15,624 posts)
Trump: McCain Is 'Not a War Hero'
While addressing the annual Family Leadership Summit in Ames, Iowa on Saturday, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump took another shot at John McCain, this time questioning the latter's status as a war hero. “He's not a war hero. He's a war hero because he was captured,†Trump said. “I like people that weren’t captured.†McCain was taken as a prisoner of war for five years during the Vietnam War. Trump, meanwhile, received four student draft deferments between 1964 and 1968 and an additional medical deferment after graduating from the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School.
As he left the stage Saturday, Trump reportedly told political consultant Frank Luntz, "See, I get a standing ovation. Other people don't." Later, when asked about his comments on McCain, Trump said, "I'm a very militaristic person. I love the military."
"Wait a minute...Trump is an asshole. DU has been ridiculing McCain's service since its inception. Does that mean that...we're assholes too?" (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026985932)
Why, yes, DUmmies, that's exactly what it means.
Star Member Paladin (12,842 posts)
3. "I like people that weren't captured."
****ing asshole. That ought to be his exit line from American politics, but it probably won't be---conservatives aren't very bright, and they have an enormous tolerance for hypocrisy.
You might want to check your DU history, there, Paladin. I seem to recall many DUmmies ridiculing him for being a POW.
Star Member Hepburn (19,386 posts)
24. I have never been a McCain fan, but...**** YOU, TRUMP!!!
The man was a prisoner of war and served and suffered for his country.
So......Donny-Boy, did you serve? So........STFU.... Asshole, wimp, ingrate...boy, does this anger me!
Gee, I don't remember you having those principles when this was said:
the48er Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 07:40 AM
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John McCain Is NOT a 'War Hero'
Of all the bullshit in which McCain's candidacy is grounded, none's more offensive to me than the "war hero" crap. Actually, offensive doesn't begin to capture it. Insane is more the word.
Though we're often told about his five and a half years as a POW, what we never get is what matters most: an honest explanation of how, specifically, he wound up in that North Vietnamese prison in the first place.
There are two salient facts: (1) McCain participated in Operation Rolling Thunder, which killed at least 100,000 North Vietnamese -- the 2008 equivalent of 1.8 million Americans: 600 times the number who died in the 9/11 attacks. (2) He helped attack a power plant in the middle of Hanoi. The plant had previously been off-limits to American bombers for fear of collateral damage.
To my mind, the bottom line in this matter is very, very simple: it's not okay to help kill vast numbers of people who have done nothing wrong to you, and it's not okay to destroy their infrastructure. Not even if bad people command you to do those things -- it's not okay.
And let's be clear: John McCain was no 18-year-old draftee. He was a man of 31, and he was part of America's permanent officer class. (His father and grandfather were four-star admirals.) That officer class helped devise the living hell that America inflicted on Southeast Asia.
In 2008 more than ever, hyper-militarized America needs to explore alternatives to the "diplomacy is for appeasers, send more troops" mentality that bred catastrophes in Vietnam, Iraq and elsewhere.
More about this and other McCain b.s. here.
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...and if you think that quote was old, how about one from, oh, TODAY?
SCVDem (1,840 posts)
24. Getting captured is easy
Being a good Naval aviator is not.
McCain was not a good pilot or scholar.
Being famous for being a POW is not something to build a career on.
Retire John. Your mission is over.
Scratch a DUmmy, find an asshole. Every time. (http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6986232)