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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on July 11, 2015, 10:09:26 PM
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KamaAina (64,167 posts)
The plague of angry white men: How racism, gun culture & toxic masculinity are poisoning America
http://www.salon.com/2015/07/07/the_plague_of_angry_white_men_how_racism_gun_culture_toxic_masculinity_are_poisoning_america_in_tandem/
Dylann Roof was not silent before he murdered nine black people in their church, shooting and reloading multiple times, destroying their bodies with his white rage. He did not shout obscure or difficult to translate Latin phrases. Dylann Roof was not a blank slate or deep and nebulous well who left no written justification or explanation for his evil deeds. White racial terrorist Dylann Roof told his African-American victims why he was going to kill them. As though it was a type of forced civic duty and obligation, Roof said to his victims: “I have to do it.†He then shared his grievances: “You rape our women and you’re taking over our country and you have to go.†Then he let off a fusillade of bullets.
A superficial reading would suggest that the “our†is simple to decipher: Roof is channeling his white nationalist understanding of “America†as a country synonymous with and exclusively for “white†people. This is the logic of the phrase that “America is a white man’s country.†The “our†also signifies the control and possession of white women’s bodies and personhood by white men.
The idea of black men raping white women is a centuries-old white American fantasy: It is the justification for the lynching tree, where thousands of innocent black men were made into “strange fruit.†The lynching tree also reinforces a cultural lie, that white women are the most desired among all others, and tries to conceal how many white women from both before the founding of the United States, through to the Age of Obama, willingly have had relationships with black men, a perfectly banal observation that nonetheless enrages white supremacists.
Nationalist and politically chauvinistic ideologies tend toward patriarchy and sexism. White nationalism is no exception. As such, Dylann Roof’s white racial terrorism is an act of violence, and one that is grounded in a particular understanding of gender: “Male†or “female†are designations of human, sexual, biological difference. “Masculine†and “feminine,†however, are social constructs that are not fixed, which change over time, and in response to particular arrangements of social and political power. Here, gender is a type of performance (in its most binary and simple form) as a given person acts “male†or “female.†And toxic masculinity is a performance that emphasizes violence, control over others, sexual aggression and a lack of emotion and vulnerability. Dylann Roof—with the guns, violence, resentment, right-wing politics and racism—is the extreme embodiment of toxic white masculinity.
So this is why they will continue to backbite and chant for war without actually ever rushing to the barricades themselves:
Masculinity is for those mean old bigots.
Be a pussified little faggot and you're automatically not a bigot.
randys1 (8,170 posts)
1. Kama, I wish I knew you in real life, you provide me with so much info and links and
stories and you remind me that I am not alone, that liberals like myself do exist
:gay:
malthaussen (7,255 posts)
5. Except it is difficult to see how violence equates to "lack of emotion"
Or vulnerability, if it comes to it, because usually one resorts to violence because he is afraid, which would seem to indicate vulnerability.
And how does one explain the lynching of black women in this context?
Finally, aside from other queries, what would constitute "toxic femininity" under this rationale?
I think rather than tagging the condition with labels like "masculine" and "feminine," one should simply reduce the problem to that the definition of "strength" is taken to be "the ability to impose one's will on another" and proceed from there.
-- Mal
zentrum (1,210 posts)
6. Black men "raping white women"...
…was the number one item in the ideology deliberately constructed by rich, white plantation owners on the eve of the Civil War.
It was a way to scare and galvanize the poor white yeomen famers of the South who didn't own slaves, (didn't own them because they were too poor). There were some moments when it seemed slaves might unite with the poor white farmers to resist the oppression of the rich white guys—but the ideology assured the secessionists of having an army to fight the war with while also not having to worry about rebellion at home as they faced the North.
This lie and the purposely constructed ideology it comes from is partly what makes American slavery different from slavery in most other parts of the world in history.
That's what's in the confederate flag.
Suddenly it's cool to question a rape victim's story.
63splitwindow (141 posts)
9. "toxic white masculinity" i would add one word...
toxic, white FALSE masculinity. Real men do not suffer from the affliction described. There is an old saying that goes something like, "A man stands no taller than when he stoops down to help a child (or another) (or the less fortunate)." Real men understand this and do so without even thinking about it.
Another way for a man to stand tall...
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craigmatic (3,957 posts)
11. The twin scandals of the church shooting are that no one is trying to go after hate groups and
gun control is still off the table. Also you still can't cite the white women crying rape and getting black men lynched and not see some parallel to how the media is treating Cosby. Even if he did do it nobody is doing background research on all the accusers to separate the real victims from people who are just trying to cash in.
Cuz bitches are lying!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026952469
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This lie and the purposely constructed ideology it comes from is partly what makes American slavery different from slavery in most other parts of the world in history.
Congratulations!
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Report for disinegration, you phucking idiot.
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Rev. Manning covers the neutering of the white male.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwxww3r3J5o
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"The idea of black men raping white women is a centuries-old white American fantasy."
On the one hand, yes, that claim/ excuse was used a LOT (And usually without any kind of legitimate proof) in the old days by the KKK and other true white supremacists to justify their lynchings and similar murders of countless innocent black men.
However, for this DUmmy to claim that the very idea of black men raping white women is a "Fantasy" is not only a bald- faced lie, it is also a heartless slap in the face to all of the innumerable white women who have indeed been sexually assaulted by black men, adding insult to their injury. As far as interracial rape goes, there have been far, FAR more reported cases of black- on- white rape than white- on- black rape.
Now, before the DUmmies hold up my post to try and claim that I'm an evil racist or something, I DO NOT by any means believe that all, most, or even a particularly large number of black men are rapists or would- be rapists; I'm simply bringing that up to prove how erroneous and heartless the DUmmy's assertion is.
"The twin scandals of the church shooting are that no one is trying to go after hate groups and gun control is still off the table."
1. Is there any established proof that Roof was involved with hate groups?
2. Did he own his guns legally? If not (As is the case with the vast majority of gun- related crime), more gun control wouldn't have done a blessed thing to prevent the church shooting from happening.
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Hey DUchebags,
Check the FBI crime stats and get back to me.
Check the new and improved FBI crime stats that break out Hispanics from white and get back to me.
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zentrum (1,210 posts)
6. Black men "raping white women"...
…was the number one item in the ideology deliberately constructed by rich, white plantation owners (who were also members of the Democrat Party) on the eve of the Civil War.
There DUmmie...fixed for you.