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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Mary Ann on July 09, 2015, 06:42:02 AM
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I am sorry for slavery. Part of the privilege of being white is that I don't often need to
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think too hard about slavery. My university forced us to take a class that qualified as an ethnic studies class. My Junior year I decided I would get that requirement out of the way while at the same time fulfilling a literature requirement. I chose an African American Literature course. We read selections from the Norton Anthology of African American Literature 2nd Edition. In this course I was exposed to
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Probably more, but this was from memory so it's the best I could do. Anyway, this has all served very well to open my eyes to the plight of African Americans, but the crystalizing moment for me was the day when we watched a documentary about the middle passage. They described many horrors of chattel slavery, but the one thing that shook me to my core was the image of "tight packing."
It never really struck home the utter disregard for humanity toward the African people until I saw and considered the mindset it took to rip people from their homeland, stack them in the hull of a ship for months on end lying in their own shit and piss, unable to move with no idea when this hell might cease. African American's might as well have been a box of pencils or a stack of cord wood. Maybe even less than that. What we did to you was unconscionable and horrific. And given that a politician, a leader I admire greatly acknowledged that we needed to apologize for slavery, I wanted to do my part as a white American by acknowledging your forefather's and mother's suffering. I want to say that I'm so, so sorry for slavery. I am unequivocally ashamed for what my "Christian" forefathers did to you and yours. I know it means not much, but I want you to know that this white American is interested in your struggles. This white American can only try, unsuccessfully, but try I do, to empathize with your people's plight. I am ashamed that all these years later, you are still classified by your skin color and suffer the centuries worth of indignities to this day. I am sorry for slavery. I am sorry for racism. I am sorry for my white privilege. I am sorry that cops kill your children while the justice system and our lawmakers incarcerate your brothers and fathers at rates that dwarf those of white people's incarceration rates. I am sorry that over half of your young people go unemployed. I am sorry you are often ghettoized and then forced out/priced out of the homes you manage to make in your ghetto by gentrification. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry and I wish there was something I could do to make amends. I'm sorry for the slavery you've endured at white hands for the last 400 years and still endure today. I'm sorry for slavery.
I can't remember the last time I've felt so much embarrassment for a total stranger.
Ed Suspicious humiliates himself over something some people's ancestors did to someone else's ancestors.
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1.) I cannot meaningfully apologize for slavery. I didn't enslave people or own slaves, nor did American slavery happen within 8 decades of my birth. Further, 3 of my 4 grandparents were immigrants or the child of immigrants who came to the US after slavery had been abolished, and my 4th grandparent's parents and ancestors were in the Midwest. While I've not searched demographic data, probably a majority of American "whites" could accurately say much the same of their ancestors.
2.) As noted above, no matter how far back one goes in my ancestry, none of my ancestry benefited from American slavery - through ownership or living in slave states. Further - and more to the point - slavery ended in 1865, 150 years ago. As vast numbers of immigrants have demonstrated, with hard work and education, the children and grandchildren of destitute, hated, immigrants were able to become prosperous, and sometimes wealthy. Many blacks denounced as "race traitors" and "Uncle Toms" have demonstrated the same. IOW, as horrible as the legacy of slavery has been, the effects of that were pretty much overcome by those who wanted to within 30-60 years. The same is true, BTW, of Jim Crow and "separate but equal", whose death began in the late 1940s or early 1950s.
Like a majority of "white" Americans, I have nothing to apologize for, and like almost all "white" Americans, I cannot meaningfully apologize for slavery or Jim Crow.
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I'm sorry the Peloponnesian War took place between Athens and Sparta and that it lasted almost 30 years.
Please forgive me.
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Dumbass DUmmies, those evil white crackas learned it from the best:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Africa
Hell, it's STILL going on:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_contemporary_Africa
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Part of the privilege of being white
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GFYS you retarded DUmmie (redundant I know) I refuse to apologize for something that my family had nothing to do with and that 99% of blacks in America aren't tied to by any kind of blood relation.
This whole racism thing isn't in my DNA...it exists only in the pointy heads of Liberals too stupid to know the history of their own political party.
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The most pathetic part of this is not that someone will be stupid enough to "apologize." It's that there are people out there with the ego and gall to believe that they're entitled to ACCEPT such an apology. And many of them are white.
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1.) I cannot meaningfully apologize for slavery. I didn't enslave people or own slaves, nor did American slavery happen within 8 decades of my birth. Further, 3 of my 4 grandparents were immigrants or the child of immigrants who came to the US after slavery had been abolished, and my 4th grandparent's parents and ancestors were in the Midwest. While I've not searched demographic data, probably a majority of American "whites" could accurately say much the same of their ancestors.
2.) As noted above, no matter how far back one goes in my ancestry, none of my ancestry benefited from American slavery - through ownership or living in slave states. Further - and more to the point - slavery ended in 1865, 150 years ago. As vast numbers of immigrants have demonstrated, with hard work and education, the children and grandchildren of destitute, hated, immigrants were able to become prosperous, and sometimes wealthy. Many blacks denounced as "race traitors" and "Uncle Toms" have demonstrated the same. IOW, as horrible as the legacy of slavery has been, the effects of that were pretty much overcome by those who wanted to within 30-60 years. The same is true, BTW, of Jim Crow and "separate but equal", whose death began in the late 1940s or early 1950s.
Like a majority of "white" Americans, I have nothing to apologize for, and like almost all "white" Americans, I cannot meaningfully apologize for slavery or Jim Crow.
yeah, that ^^
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I'm sorry and I wish there was something I could do to make amends.
Well, Dummy, you could always try self-immolation.
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I'm sorry the Peloponnesian War took place between Athens and Sparta and that it lasted almost 30 years.
Please forgive me.
^^^yeah, that. Same sort of thing.
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I'm sorry.
I'm sorry that modern blacks have bought in to the victimology being spread by democrats.
I'm sorry that democrats think so little of the black people that they need special treatment for something so simple as registering to vote.
I'm sorry that democrat policies do nothing to help make the lives of black people better, but are designed solely to keep blacks dependent on the government so that they keep voting for democrats who lie about helping them.
I'm sorry that democrats want to keep blacks living in crowded cities where their votes can be concentrated to keep electing democrats that lie and break their promises.
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I'm sorry that democrats want to keep blacks living in crowded cities where their votes can be concentrated to keep electing democrats that lie and break their promises.
Coming soon to a suburb near you! Communities will be expected to build "affordable housing" in ALL neighborhoods--so on election day, you will be able to watch the buses pull up to the low-income high-rise in your subdivision and watch the happy disparately impacted residents board the bus, collect their incentive, and go to the polls to happily dilute your Republican vote.
One party rule, it's coming.
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If you assholes were truly sorry for slavery in the past you would abandon welfare, gun control and your mob mentality so that it never happens in the future.
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I'm sorry that the democrat party went all in for slavery. I am not sorry that the republican party took the country away from that.
I'm sorry that the democrat party has treated the black community as lower class humans. I am not sorry that the republican party tries to treat them as equal humans.
I'm sorry that the democrat party is destroying the black community wherever they have political leadership. I'm also sorry that under a black democrat party president that race relations are the worst they have ever been.
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Not trying to justify anything here, but of the Africans who lived in Africa at the time of the slave trade who ultimately got the better end of the deal, those sold into slavery to colonist, those sold into slavery elsewhere or those who remained in Africa?
Just curious.
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I'm sorry the Turkish muslims murdered 1.5 million Armenian Christians during World War One, and our jug-eared muslim President refuses to acknowledge it.
It was an even more clear-cut and documented genocide than the Nazi exterminations.
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I am sorry that these pathetic losers forgot about all the Irish sold into slavery by Cromwell and his ilk.
I demand reparations.
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I will never apologize for something I had no hand or say in. I will not apologize for being born a particular ethnicity. I will never apologize to a generation of a group who never felt the whip or were never forced into servitude. The
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Ed Suspicious, you're an embarrassment to the human race.
Off yourself immediately.
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Ed Suspicious, you're an embarrassment to the human race.
Off yourself immediately.
I won't apologize for slavery. Remember when Ralph Cifaretto offered an apology to Johnny Sack? Why apologize for something you had nothing to do with? Only the guilty would do that.
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I am sorry the dummie is still alive.
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I have already apologized to all the slaves I've ever owned in a post on another site. Once is enough in my opinion.
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As always with libs and DUmmies, what they demand now is not the finishing line.
It's the starting line.
I will apologize for slavery as soon as I own my first one.
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Apologizing for slavery and denouncing the confederate flag aren't going to make up for the democrat party's late arrival to the civil rights movement.
Dig up Andrew Jackson and get him to apologize or shut the hell up.
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GFYS you retarded DUmmie (redundant I know) I refuse to apologize for something that my family had nothing to do with and that 99% of blacks in America aren't tied to by any kind of blood relation.
This whole racism thing isn't in my DNA...it exists only in the pointy heads of Liberals too stupid to know the history of their own political party.
That's the only response I would consider.
Well, except to kindly ask the bloviating retard who fingerpainted that OP to do the country a favor and take the blue pill.
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Let me ask you this, Ed Suspicious.
Do you still own slaves today?
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I'm sorry that the democrat party went all in for slavery. I am not sorry that the republican party took the country away from that.
I'm sorry that the democrat party has treated the black community as lower class humans. I am not sorry that the republican party tries to treat them as equal humans.
I'm sorry that the democrat party is destroying the black community wherever they have political leadership. I'm also sorry that under a black democrat party president that race relations are the worst they have ever been.
They cannot even see that part. :mental:
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White men shed their blood that slaves might be free.
That is apology enough.
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If the Confederate flag is racist what about the democrat party?
The democrat party was all about slavery and they should be disbanded or at the very least be forced to change their name. It offends me and makes me hurt in my heart knowing that the racist negro hating democrat party is still called the democrat party.
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Let me ask you this, Ed Suspicious.
Do you still own slaves today?
Tax paying white people working....close enough.
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If the Confederate flag is racist what about the democrat party?
The democrat party was all about slavery and they should be disbanded or at the very least be forced to change their name. It offends me and makes me hurt in my heart knowing that the racist negro hating democrat party is still called the democrat party.
They can change their name to the Communist Party. Oh wait.. that is taken already. Well then the two ought to just merge since both platforms are so similar.
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I'm sorry that the democrat party went all in for slavery. I am not sorry that the republican party took the country away from that.
I'm sorry that the democrat party has treated the black community as lower class humans. I am not sorry that the republican party tries to treat them as equal humans.
I'm sorry that the democrat party is destroying the black community wherever they have political leadership. I'm also sorry that under a black democrat party president that race relations are the worst they have ever been.
I am sorry that the slavers were mostly black -- the ones in Africa all were.
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As someone with a B.A. in History who specialized in American history, I am well aware of the horrors associated with the slave trade.
My apology, like most of yours, will not mean much, as I have never owned a slave, nor (To the best of my knowledge) am I descended from anyone who owned slaves.
I also don't believe I should wallow in self- imposed guilt over something that happened centuries ago in which the only common factor between myself and the perpetrators is skin color.
However, I will say that I am very sorry that slavery happened, in much the same way that I am very sorry that other historical atrocities happened, such as the Holocaust and the campaigns of genocide against Native- Americans.
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My daddy got a speeding ticket once....must I apologize over and over for that?
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You'd think with all these primitives descended from slave owners apologizing, there'd be a black descended from slaves to accept the apology and move on. Don't think I've ever seen that though.
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You'd think with all these primitives descended from slave owners apologizing, there'd be a black descended from slaves to accept the apology and move on. Don't think I've ever seen that though.
1StrongBlackMan? :whistling:
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I know how to solve this:
I, as the self-appointed representative of all things black, african american, negro, etc hereby declare that all you white devils are now pardoned from any white guilt that you may harbor due to your honky ancestors being slave masters. I will be happy to write out a signed legal document as proof for whenever somebody tries to make you feel bad about it.
There, I've done my public service for the day.
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Again, a considered no on apologizing for slavery.
But I will apologize for global warming.
I will do that when I have made a fortune in anti green industries, and then use that fortune to bilk gullible libs out of their hard earned dole...
Tom Steyer’s concern for the environment and almost religious devotion to promoting green energy appear to be targeting another kind of green.
Steyer, criticized for the hypocrisy of having built some of his fortune on coal, is now connected to green energy companies that might benefit from his climate change activism.
Recently published tax documents for solar firm Kilowatt Financial, LLC, listed Steyer as a “manager†and a “managing member,†according the Washington Free Beacon.
As manager, Steyer is “chosen by the members to manage the LLC and is similar to a director of a corporation.â€
Kilowatt Financial offers solar energy management options for homeowners.
According to its website, the company handles installation, financing, maintenance, and tax credit paperwork for buying solar electricity, and leasing or owning a solar power system.
The company, founded in 2011, could benefit from the “green energy†lobbying Steyer does.
That’s substantial.
In the 2014 election cycle alone, Steyer spent $74 million through his NextGen climate PAC to promote a climate alarmist agenda, attack fossil fuels, and back candidates who supported alternative energy (like solar).
In the most recent reporting period, official documents indicated Steyer was the one keeping NextGen Climate afloat.
The Washington Times reported, “the latest Federal Elections Commission report shows that contributors other than Mr. Steyer invested just $2,457 in the super PAC.â€
Steyer himself put $5 million into the PAC during that same time.
Steyer’s fervent dedication to alternative energy, therefore, appears fundamentally financial.
He floods his own PAC with his personal money to push for policies that benefit the green energy company he helps manage.
Alternative Energy wasn’t always Steyer’s focus.
He only began attacking coal power in 2011 - the same year that Kilowatt was founded.
Meanwhile in Australia, the hedge fund that Steyer started and ran until at least 2013, Farallon Capital Management, was busy finalizing a transaction to create what is on track to become one of Australia’s largest coal mining operations.
This deal increased coal production in Australia by a staggering 70 million tons.
Steyer divested from Farallon in 2014 after saying that he could not reconcile it with his current personal beliefs about climate change.
Also, conveniently after he had made a fortune.
After he divested, the media praised Steyer for his conversion from profit-seeking capitalist to environmental hero.
Clearly they ignored the profits he would get from pushing green energy.
full article...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/alatheia-larsen/2015/07/10/green-billionaire-steyer-just-another-capitalist#sthash.wAZwgwNJ.dpuf
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