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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Mr Mannn on July 03, 2015, 08:48:53 AM
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take a look at this:
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2. He's gone.
"Name Removed" will not be missed. I had the pleasure of serving on a jury this am that sent him packing.
Here is the jury where the gals ganged up on another member.
They display it like a trophy. For a brief moment they feel the glory from their reign of terror days.
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23. though, occasionally they get one right
I believe Polygamy will be legalised in the next 20 years
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026933403
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS
This is equating gay marriage with polygamy. This poster's trolling is incessant. First he goes after feminists, now LGBT.
JURY RESULTS
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:25 PM, and the Jury voted 4-3 to HIDE IT.
Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Harmony Blue is a notorious misogynist and racist, now apparently a homophobe. HIDE and should be BANNED.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It's a tragedy that this alert was sent.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Absolutely one of the most intentionally nasty things anyone could have posted against this week's victory for equality. Certainly the action of a troll who only hopes to create intense disharmony among people who support equality. Posters so disruptive do not serve DU well.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
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Yet in that mess of thread posted here about it almost 80% are in favor of polygamy etc.
That is always what the left has to do,lie about what they truly believe.
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Whether the French revolutionaries who turned on each other or the Stalinist purges of competing Socialist parties and potential rivals in the Bolshevik Party, internecine purging is a pretty predictable pattern.
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Whether the French revolutionaries who turned on each other or the Stalinist purges of competing Socialist parties and potential rivals in the Bolshevik Party, internecine purging is a pretty predictable pattern.
So many long knives, so few DUmmies.
If the Hildebeast ends up nominated by the dems, there will be so much vengeance bloodletting on DU - After Obama was nominated, many Hillbots met their end. They want payback.
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Incest and Polygamy/polyandry -- inside 2 years.
It makes no sense to hide such a prediction except for one thing: they know it to be true (and much sooner).
Gay marriage=poly and incestuous marriage (the latter should be OK this moment).
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Is Skinner going to ban all the KKKlams? I know other groups that overtook DU had been banned within months. The KKKlams have reigned for about year.
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Is Skinner going to ban all the KKKlams? I know other groups that overtook DU had been banned within months. The KKKlams have reigned for about year.
Skins will do nothing. His wife is one.
The KKKlams reign of terror ended when DUers used their own tactics against them.
Still the hysterical gals will alert stalk every now and then.
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Still the hysterical gals will alert stalk every now and then.
True, but not nearly like they used to.
I'm wondering if BainsBane finally took my advice and counsel, and took some of Lydia Pinkham's Special Vegetable Compound for Female Complaints--the pre-1906, the pre-FDA, version--because she's been acting a lot more self-controlled lately, not given to hysteria as much as she used to be.
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Star Member geek tragedy (47,880 posts)
23. though, occasionally they get one right
I believe Polygamy will be legalised in the next 20 years
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026933403
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS
This is equating gay marriage with polygamy. This poster's trolling is incessant. First he goes after feminists, now LGBT.
JURY RESULTS
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:25 PM, and the Jury voted 4-3 to HIDE IT.
Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Harmony Blue is a notorious misogynist and racist, now apparently a homophobe. HIDE and should be BANNED.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It's a tragedy that this alert was sent.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Absolutely one of the most intentionally nasty things anyone could have posted against this week's victory for equality. Certainly the action of a troll who only hopes to create intense disharmony among people who support equality. Posters so disruptive do not serve DU well.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
I've read this numerous times today and I'm still trying to see how they get from point A to point B on this one. Did the poster write anything beyond believing polygamy will be legalized? If not, if I wrote "I like peach cobbler" would they alert saying that I'm opposed to π (pi) calculated to ten digits?
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I've read this numerous times today and I'm still trying to see how they get from point A to point B on this one. Did the poster write anything beyond believing polygamy will be legalized? If not, if I wrote "I like peach cobbler" would they alert saying that I'm opposed to π (pi) calculated to ten digits?
Yes. The same holds true on DI. Alert stalkers will alert on everything you post. The goal is to catch you when their group has the majority of jurors...no mater how innocent your post is, they will vote you down for defying their little group, The Klams had to get me once by alerting at 3 in the morning when the conservatives were asleep.
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True, but not nearly like they used to.
I'm wondering if BainsBane finally took my advice and counsel, and took some of Lydia Pinkham's Special Vegetable Compound for Female Complaints--the pre-1906, the pre-FDA, version--because she's been acting a lot more self-controlled lately, not given to hysteria as much as she used to be.
She may have taken the cure, but more likely she's calmer because it's becoming obvious that the Hildebeast has no credible opposition.
It's the same reason Skimmer, at this point, is allowing the Sandernistas to run wild.
The old commie has no more chance of becoming President than The Donald.
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I've read this numerous times today and I'm still trying to see how they get from point A to point B on this one. Did the poster write anything beyond believing polygamy will be legalized? If not, if I wrote "I like peach cobbler" would they alert saying that I'm opposed to π (pi) calculated to ten digits?
Not trying to be a smart-@$$, but you're actually trying to get from Point A to Point H, when Points B-G are entirely in their heads. An Olympic-class broad jumper couldn't leap that canyon.
Yes. The same holds true on DI. Alert stalkers will alert on everything you post. The goal is to catch you when their group has the majority of jurors...no mater how innocent your post is, they will vote you down for defying their little group, The Klams had to get me once by alerting at 3 in the morning when the conservatives were asleep.
Trying to understand a little ... so their wonderful jury system designates juries based on who happens to be online at the time of the Alert? ::) DU's manglement can't see how easily that could be gamed? Or won't? ::)
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I've read this numerous times today and I'm still trying to see how they get from point A to point B on this one. Did the poster write anything beyond believing polygamy will be legalized? If not, if I wrote "I like peach cobbler" would they alert saying that I'm opposed to π (pi) calculated to ten digits?
Here's the issue with this one: the gays used civil rights era slogans and strategies, something that irritated blacks to no end. Since that worked, the polygamists are starting to use the same strategy and the gays are just up in a tizzy. This makes no sense to me but apparently it's a huge bone of contention.
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Trying to understand a little ... so their wonderful jury system designates juries based on who happens to be online at the time of the Alert? ::) DU's manglement can't see how easily that could be gamed? Or won't? ::)
Right -
The loophole is there because there seems to be no time limit on alerting - As long as an undesirable thread hasn't been alerted on - DU members can wait until they believe the odds are in their favor by logging in at a quiet time (usually the wee hours of the morning) and finding posts by their target to alert on.
If the first alert fails, then another member of the alert group will take a stab at another post by the same user, etc etc. until they achieve victory.
This is **BY FAR** the most effective technique they use to generate desired jury results. AFAIK, this technique was designed by The KKKlams, and they use it almost exclusively. Fixing the loophole is easy - set a jury-reviewable timeout limit to a couple of hours after a post is made.
--But that isn't going to happen. Skins would find himself flayed by the KKKlams if he took their secret tool away from them. Then we would have to refer to him as Skinless, and that just doesn't have the same 'ring to it'.
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- Another Alert technique is 'response goading' - this is far more common than the KKKlams secret recipe. It usually happens during the day, and isn't as successful.
For example - a poster starts a thread that many find offensive, it goes to jury and the alert fails. A member who is already posting in the thread will work their hardest to get the OP to lose his/her cool - making another opportunity for someone to alert. Sometimes in the same thread, or a new one specifically tailored to get the attention of the OP the alert failed on.
most of the offended stay clear of the new thread, letting one or two bat around the target until he/she types something alertable. The rest of the offended hope they end up on the jury so they can nail the offender to the wall.
Regardless of technique, the jury system has devolved into control via mob rule. - And walking into the wrong virtual neighborhood at the wrong time can result in one getting one's ass handed to them.
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Regardless of technique, the jury system has devolved into control via mob rule. - And walking into the wrong virtual neighborhood at the wrong time can result in one getting one's ass handed to them.
Mob Rule.....that is a true democracy which the DUmmies love except when it doesn't get them their way.....then they revert to a republic and the courts to get their way.....it's always "our way or the highway" with liberals.
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- Another Alert technique is 'response goading' - this is far more common than the KKKlams secret recipe. It usually happens during the day, and isn't as successful.
For example - a poster starts a thread that many find offensive, it goes to jury and the alert fails. A member who is already posting in the thread will work their hardest to get the OP to lose his/her cool - making another opportunity for someone to alert. Sometimes in the same thread, or a new one specifically tailored to get the attention of the OP the alert failed on.
most of the offended stay clear of the new thread, letting one or two bat around the target until he/she types something alertable. The rest of the offended hope they end up on the jury so they can nail the offender to the wall.
Regardless of technique, the jury system has devolved into control via mob rule. - And walking into the wrong virtual neighborhood at the wrong time can result in one getting one's ass handed to them.
Hi5 for an on the spot analysis! They try this on me all the time at DI. Once you know what is happening you can turn it into a game and get totally silly.
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Trying to understand a little ... so their wonderful jury system designates juries based on who happens to be online at the time of the Alert? ::) DU's manglement can't see how easily that could be gamed? Or won't? ::)
The alternative is to have people take responsibility and work at managing DU.
Skinner knows full well the monster he created, and he doesn't care. He should. He paid to keep the crazies off the other democrat forums. Any sweeping purge will send a wave of mindless drones into forums reserved for "normal" socialists.
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If the first alert fails, then another member of the alert group will take a stab at another post by the same user, etc etc. until they achieve victory.
This is **BY FAR** the most effective technique they use to generate desired jury results. AFAIK, this technique was designed by The KKKlams, and they use it almost exclusively. Fixing the loophole is easy - set a jury-reviewable timeout limit to a couple of hours after a post is made.
Wow! So not only is the system game-able by organized collusion (PMs or email), but double- or triple- or whatever-jeopardy as well?! Geez! Juries should only be chosen during highest-traffic hours, and no double-jeopardy. Even a 12YO could foresee the kind of @#$% DU's manglement enabled and permits.
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- Another Alert technique is 'response goading' - this is far more common than the KKKlams secret recipe. It usually happens during the day, and isn't as successful.
For example - a poster starts a thread that many find offensive, it goes to jury and the alert fails. A member who is already posting in the thread will work their hardest to get the OP to lose his/her cool - making another opportunity for someone to alert. Sometimes in the same thread, or a new one specifically tailored to get the attention of the OP the alert failed on.
most of the offended stay clear of the new thread, letting one or two bat around the target until he/she types something alertable. The rest of the offended hope they end up on the jury so they can nail the offender to the wall.
That baiting game was probably invented the day after Internet discussion forums were invented. if not a few hours earlier.
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Here's the issue with this one: the gays used civil rights era slogans and strategies, something that irritated blacks to no end. Since that worked, the polygamists are starting to use the same strategy and the gays are just up in a tizzy. This makes no sense to me but apparently it's a huge bone of contention.
The majority opinion (and supporting thereof, including the briefs filed in favor of the plaintiff) in Obergefell can be used word for word to support poly and incestuous marriage. Word for word.
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Wow! So not only is the system game-able by organized collusion (PMs or email), but double- or triple- or whatever-jeopardy as well?! Geez! Juries should only be chosen during highest-traffic hours, and no double-jeopardy. Even a 12YO could foresee the kind of @#$% DU's manglement enabled and permits.
Well, a single post is only subject to one alert. If it fails, it fails - and the original alerter can't participate again in an alert for a number of hours. - So the alerters work in packs - they will either find another post to alert on, or attempt to get the poster to write something alertable. In the case of the KKKlams, they jury stack by alerting on a poster in the off hours, hoping that enough of them will be randomly selected to bring down the poster.
So, its less 'double jeopardy' and more using loopholes to one's advantage. - Like the OJ Simpson mess. He was found not guilty during the criminal trial, yet ended up losing pretty much everything he owned during the civil suit. - two different juries for two different reasons.
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The majority opinion (and supporting thereof, including the briefs filed in favor of the plaintiff) in Obergefell can be used word for word to support poly and incestuous marriage. Word for word.
Indeed - even though there are medical data to suggest that the children of an incestuous relationship are far more likely to have genetic based issues than two unrelated partners, it doesn't really hold water in a world where pregnancy is controllable (and sadly, terminated). And of course, there are gay and lesbian incestuous relationships - Children simply cannot be an issue concerning those.
But their real concern is polygamy --which the left associates with fundamentalists based on the actions of a few coupled with urban legends. - Anyway, the last thing they want are fundamentalists giving birth to more fundamentalists - even if most of what the left's beliefs are based on is imaginary.
If that were not the case, they would all be in favor of it. I'm sure they loved this :
http://nypost.com/2015/02/27/thai-throuple-believed-to-be-worlds-first-gay-married-trio/
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Well, a single post is only subject to one alert. If it fails, it fails - and the original alerter can't participate again in an alert for a number of hours. - So the alerters work in packs - they will either find another post to alert on, or attempt to get the poster to write something alertable. In the case of the KKKlams, they jury stack by alerting on a poster in the off hours, hoping that enough of them will be randomly selected to bring down the poster.
So, its less 'double jeopardy' and more using loopholes to one's advantage. - Like the OJ Simpson mess. He was found not guilty during the criminal trial, yet ended up losing pretty much everything he owned during the civil suit. - two different juries for two different reasons.
Ah, thanks for setting me straight. I want my low opinion of DU to be based on what they do, not what I imagine they do.
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But their real concern is polygamy --which the left associates with fundamentalists based on the actions of a few coupled with urban legends. - Anyway, the last thing they want are fundamentalists giving birth to more fundamentalists - even if most of what the left's beliefs are based on is imaginary.
:thatsright: DU-folk believe there are Fundamentalists who believe in polygamy? :thatsright: Seriously? :thatsright: I think one could talk to every member in literally every Fundamentalist church in the US without finding a single member who believes in polygamy. I suppose that means that :thatsright: DU-folks have no idea what Christian Fundamentalism is. :thatsright:
A hint to any DU-lurker who has read this post this far: Mormons are not Fundamentalists, and never have been; neither have been or are the tiny Mormon offshoots in the US Southwest that do believe in and practice polygamy.
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A hint to any DU-lurker who has read this post this far: Mormons are not Fundamentalists, and never have been; neither have been or are the tiny Mormon offshoots in the US Southwest that do believe in and practice polygamy.
DUmmys have no clue to what a fundamentalist really is. Any Christian they disagree with is a dangerous fundy. The actions of any Christian nut group (no matter how small) will be painted on Christianity as a whole.
Primitives fear and loathe Christians and practicing Jews...with a big emphasis on the fear part. They are very close now to actual govt sponsored persecution of the church. This is and was always their goal.
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DUmmys have no clue to what a fundamentalist really is. Any Christian they disagree with is a dangerous fundy. The actions of any Christian nut group (no matter how small) will be painted on Christianity as a whole.
absolutely correct. And many of them believe that a Christian male will take as many wives as he can afford so he can father hundreds of kids who will all work to increase the population, and squeeze the liberals out of any meaningful government representation.
This is why they want as many South Americans here as possible. They also tend to have many children, and they tend to vote for Democrats. -- To offset dem' honky fundies and their church babies. Whereas the current Democratic base are aborting themselves into extinction - much to the joy of Margaret Sanger. Planned Parenthood is working exactly as planned.
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:thatsright: DU-folk believe there are Fundamentalists who believe in polygamy? :thatsright: Seriously? :thatsright: I think one could talk to every member in literally every Fundamentalist church in the US without finding a single member who believes in polygamy. I suppose that means that :thatsright: DU-folks have no idea what Christian Fundamentalism is. :thatsright:
A hint to any DU-lurker who has read this post this far: Mormons are not Fundamentalists, and never have been; neither have been or are the tiny Mormon offshoots in the US Southwest that do believe in and practice polygamy.
So, the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (FLDS) are not fundamentalists?
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So, the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (FLDS) are not fundamentalists?
No. They have freedom of speech, so they can call themselves whatever they like: maybe Catholic Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints; maybe Orthodox LDS; maybe Presbyterian or Methodist or Baptist or Pentecostal LDS. But that would no more make the FLDS folks Catholic, Orthodox, etc., than Fundamentalists.
The "F" in FLDS is historically wrong. It's anachronistic, in the sense that Joseph Smith predated Fundamentalists - who coined the term - by half a century or more. Further, the Fundamentalist movement started among Presbyterians and Baptists, not the LDS Church or Reformed LDS church (followers of Joseph Smith's widow) or any LDS offshoot.
absolutely correct. And many of them believe that a Christian male will take as many wives as he can afford so he can father hundreds of kids who will all work to increase the population, and squeeze the liberals out of any meaningful government representation.
So DU folk don't know that one of the qualifications for being a Christian leader is that he is "Husband of one wife"? I know, I don't fake surprise all that well. Of course most DU-folk haven't read the New Testament!
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No. They have freedom of speech, so they can call themselves whatever they like: maybe Catholic Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints; maybe Orthodox LDS; maybe Presbyterian or Methodist or Baptist or Pentecostal LDS. But that would no more make the FLDS folks Catholic, Orthodox, etc., than Fundamentalists.
The "F" in FLDS is historically wrong. It's anachronistic, in the sense that Joseph Smith predated Fundamentalists - who coined the term - by half a century or more. Further, the Fundamentalist movement started among Presbyterians and Baptists, not the LDS Church or Reformed LDS church (followers of Joseph Smith's widow) or any LDS offshoot.
So DU folk don't know that one of the qualifications for being a Christian leader is that he is "Husband of one wife"? I know, I don't fake surprise all that well. Of course most DU-folk haven't read the New Testament!
Yet, Christian Fundamentalism as a named movement came into existence within 20 years of Fundamentalist LDS, which by the same measure also makes it an anachronism- correct?
And as the FLDS practice "fundamental Mormonism" a la Joseph Smith and Brigham Young, they are equally valid in calling themselves "fundamentalists"; as are Baptists and other Christian fundamentalists who "do battle royal for the Fundamentals" (Curtis Lee Laws, 1920).
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It really doesn't matter what the real definition of "fundamentalist" happens to be. To DUmmies anyone who says "God" or "Jesus" without derision and/or does not view Jesus as a funky feel good hippie is a fundamentalist.
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It really doesn't matter what the real definition of "fundamentalist" happens to be. To DUmmies anyone who says "God" or "Jesus" without derision and/or does not view Jesus as a funky feel good hippie is a fundamentalist.
Then I qualify as a "fundamentalist", too!
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Then I qualify as a "fundamentalist", too!
Yup.
Pretty much everyone conservative does. I'm sure they have a way of squeezing even conservative atheists & agnostics under the header of "Fundy" as well. - Using the same twisted logic of theirs to declare Abraham Lincoln a Democrat.
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Yet, Christian Fundamentalism as a named movement came into existence within 20 years of Fundamentalist LDS, which by the same measure also makes it an anachronism- correct?
And as the FLDS practice "fundamental Mormonism" a la Joseph Smith and Brigham Young, they are equally valid in calling themselves "fundamentalists"; as are Baptists and other Christian fundamentalists who "do battle royal for the Fundamentals" (Curtis Lee Laws, 1920).
I think you may have missed a key phrase in this sentence in my post: " It's anachronistic, in the sense that Joseph Smith predated Fundamentalists - who coined the term - by half a century or more." IOW, Fundamentalist Christians - whose roots as a movement date to the 1880s or 1890s - created the term (in the 190Xs or early 191Xs). OTOH, while the FLDS evidently has roots reaching into the 191Xs, they remained within the main church until excommunicated in the late 1920s or early 1930s. The FLDS did not begin to form - or take on the name - until the early 1930s or later. Where the main issues for the Fundamentalist Movement were certain key teachings of the Bible, the main issue for the FLDS people was polygamy.
IOW, as soon as anyone scratches the surface deeper than the usage of the word, "Fundamentalist" it becomes totally clear that the Fundamentalist Movement and the FLDS polygamy movement are completely unrelated. They're even unrelated geographically, the Fundamentalist Movement having its roots in the NE US and spreading nationwide and beyond, while the FLDS has SW US roots, and hasn't spread very much (a few colonies elsewhere in the western US and one one BC, Canada).
As I said above, the FLDS have free speech, and could call themselves what they like. But calling themselves Catholic LDS would not make them related to the Catholic Church. Calling themselves Lutheran LDS would not make them related to any of the Lutheran Churches in the US. And calling themselves Fundamentalist LDS would not make them related to Fundamentalist churches.
Assuming discussions of what Fundamentalists are and believe and practice are intended to have meaning. I know, I used the M-word ...