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Title: My cousin's husband has PTSD as a result.. bouncy
Post by: CC27 on June 16, 2015, 11:29:38 AM
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My cousin's husband has PTSD as a result


of what he experienced as a soldier in Iraq. He tried (unsuccessively thank goodness) to commit suicide last year. He has been in intensive therapy.

I will not cast a vote for anyone who should have known better than to authorize that damned war. No one will ever convince me that any of our lawmakers at the time did not know that the Bush cabal was lying about WMD. Those who voted yes did so out of political expediency, and are responsible for untold suffering.

Another cousin lost his good paying job working for Tyco in NC, and now is finally working for about half of what he was making. The reason for the job loss? It was outsourced to China.

I will not cast a vote for any candidate who votes for policies that cost Americans their jobs.

I feel bad if the cousin really did try it but DUmmies lie so much i don't know what to think.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026845233
Title: Re: My cousin's husband has PTSD as a result.. bouncy
Post by: Vagabond on June 16, 2015, 01:10:12 PM
"Outsourced to China" is becoming something hard to believe.  It still happens but most of what could be moved, has been moved.  Some companies have even realized that it was no great boon and returned work to the US. 
Title: Re: My cousin's husband has PTSD as a result.. bouncy
Post by: ChuckJ on June 16, 2015, 02:01:54 PM
I keep hearing about "lying about WMD" but from what I've seen WMD were found in Iraq. Naturally, it hasn't been greatly reported in the anti-George Bush media, but that doesn't make it not so.

Am I incorrect about the WMD?
Title: Re: My cousin's husband has PTSD as a result.. bouncy
Post by: thundley4 on June 16, 2015, 08:50:47 PM
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I will not cast a vote for anyone who should have known better than to authorize that damned war. No one will ever convince me that any of our lawmakers at the time did not know that the Bush cabal was lying about WMD.

The reason almost everyone believed it is because it was true. Every intel agency from our allies also said the same thing.  To think that Saddam didn't have WMDs would take an incredibly stupid or naive person. 
Title: Re: My cousin's husband has PTSD as a result.. bouncy
Post by: SVPete on June 16, 2015, 10:12:24 PM
Tyco is a growth-by-acquisition company that bought up marginally profitable companies and divisions of larger companies. They consolidate and move manufacturing where it can be done profitably. Most of that happened 10 or 15 years ago, so I wonder a bit about that part of the  :bouncy: - tale. Sometimes Tyco made a mess, sometimes it worked well, sometimes both, in that order. Regardless of the timing, re's cousin would have lost his job sooner or later, due to his plant being uncompetitive, but by moving manufacturing offshore Tyco saved both that division and at least some jobs in the US. W/O what Tyco did the whole company might have been shuttered and all jobs lost.

BTW, I've had to help work around one of the messes Tyco made, so I don't love them. I'm just trying to speak realistically.
Title: Re: My cousin's husband has PTSD as a result.. bouncy
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on June 16, 2015, 10:27:06 PM
I keep hearing about "lying about WMD" but from what I've seen WMD were found in Iraq. Naturally, it hasn't been greatly reported in the anti-George Bush media, but that doesn't make it not so.

Am I incorrect about the WMD?

It doesn't matter to them.  There would, literally, have to be VX casings scattered from border to border before it would rate the smallest grunt from these 'tards.

.. and they'd still spin plates to deny it.

I recall a news clip of a convoy going from Iraq to Syria.  The word was WMD convoy.  I believe the Israelis were confirming it.  After that, never a word about it.  Nothing.  The clip disappeared.
Title: Re: My cousin's husband has PTSD as a result.. bouncy
Post by: SVPete on June 16, 2015, 10:50:24 PM
It doesn't matter to them.  There would, literally, have to be VX casings scattered from border to border before it would rate the smallest grunt from these 'tards.

.. and they'd still spin plates to deny it.

I recall a news clip of a convoy going from Iraq to Syria.  The word was WMD convoy.  I believe the Israelis were confirming it.  After that, never a word about it.  Nothing.  The clip disappeared.

Here's the NYT article from last October. (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html?_r=0)
Title: Re: My cousin's husband has PTSD as a result.. bouncy
Post by: RayRaytheSBS on June 17, 2015, 12:47:27 PM
I feel bad if the cousin really did try it but DUmmies lie so much i don't know what to think.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026845233

I'd believe the cousin's husband got PTSD from his money-grubbing dependa of a wife spending all his deplohment pay while he was deployed to Iraq, oh and he came home to a baby that wasn't his. These are DUches after all. If I had to come home to that, I'd probably have PTSD too.