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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on June 10, 2015, 09:09:08 PM
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jakeXT (10,021 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141114325
Obama Authorizes Deploying Up To 450 More Troops To Iraq
Don't worry. They are just trainers.
Robbins (2,969 posts)
1. well how many years did we train iraqi forces and for what? Another step to full back to iraq as neocons want.Obama is so gutless he is doing what they want. More evidance i and others were idiots to support him over hillary. Only hope to pull away from this direction is Bernie Sanders.no difference at all between corporate Dems like hillary and republicans
on this. When the social safety net is cut to help pay for it.don't cry to me. Iraq isn't worth one american life or one cent of american taxpayer money. You know partly why i am done with Obama.
Too late to cry over spilt milk now, DUmpmonkie. You voted for Barry twice.
Robbins (2,969 posts)
6. I agree with you
I am tired of this BS.as you said united states infrastructure needs to be rebult.
If i wanted to go with corporists and neo-cons i would vote republican.That's why I am supporting bernie sanders.
Those like hillary thought it was such a great idea to give bush the authority helped create this mess.that alone should disqualife her for president.
I don't have no fancy degree but i knew back in 2002 going to war in iraq was bad idea.
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pasto76 (1,557 posts)
8. you know calling every use of a military asset a 'war' really alienates you from the veteran communi not that most people here care - as Ive seen over the last 12 years. but in case someone who does value us stumbles on this.
Ive offered my experience and thoughts on this before but usually got it censored by people here because it wasnt popular.
here's a hint. If either party really started backing veterans - and I think Bernie would actually be in my corner - they would dominate ever election on every level for the next 2 decades.
On a different note why should Snowden get clemency without a trial? You remember PFC Manning? That kid is a hero to this war veteran. Did the right thing, but broke the law. Didnt run from the consequences. Didnt continue to dangle more 'secrets' (hey I thought you were about freedom and democracy and not keeping 'threats to democracy' in your back pocket for your personal gain.
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OnyxCollie (8,953 posts)
15. The Obama administration tortured Chelsea Manning and tried to link her to Al Qaeda.
So, submit to torture and get 35 years in prison (or a death sentence), or say, "Screw your feelings" and get the **** out of Dodge.
What to do, what to do...
DUmpmonkie history written by DUmpmonkies has no real link to reality.
rhett o rick (44,554 posts)
16. We are in a continuous war. Every use of an asset is just part of the MIC's continuous war
Obama either supports the neocon/MIC idea of continuous war or he is powerless to stop it.
Noticed you totally avoided calling "PFC Manning" a she. Interesting. ALERT ALERT ALERT!!!
And did Snowden do the wrong thing by avoiding being tortured and imprisoned for life? Easy to say no. Snowden isn't any less of a hero because he tried to avoid the wrath of the NSA/CIA Black Security State.
The treatment of whistle-blowers is an issue where we can see the difference between progressives and conservatives. Guess which wants him tortured and "broken"?
Robbins (2,969 posts)
10. Problem is
Today's dems at least those that get elected to white house are spineless.The president makes decsions.not military.the excuse i keep hearing is i just follow recommandations of military leaders.
In early 1960's kennedy didn't just do what military wanted.if he had the world would have been blown up In october 1962 over cuba.
They didn't think he went far enough In vietnam.
Problem with clintons and obama is they just go along with war plans.
Does anyone actully read anymore?This is early 1960's all over again with "Advisors"
I don't have no fancy degree but i can reality here just like i knew it was bad idea in 2002 to go into iraq.
we spent how many years training and funding iraqi army and for what?
I'm sick of this crap
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awoke_in_2003 (27,471 posts)
19. So we send more troops...to train these dumbasses, and then they will do what they have done (since 1991) when confronted- they will drop their weapons and run.
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Barry is just *****footing around and kicking the can down the road to Jan. 2017.
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Barry is just *****footing around and kicking the can down the road to Jan. 2017.
Odd how they still blame Bush for their hangnails, but they're already mailing it in, thinking no one will associate 0loser with any ****ups once he's cashing checks in 2017.
Wrong, liberals. 0bama will own it all. He may run off, but his record will remain right there on the White House grounds, stinking like the pile of shit it is.
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450 troops? Can this have any real affect or is it just window dressing to show he has a plan to fight isis?
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450 troops? Can this have any real affect or is it just window dressing to show he has a plan to fight isis?
He was being hammered for admitting he was clueless. He is doing this to provide cover and say that he was misunderstood, and that he couldn't tell the terrorists his plans.
Although why he would worry about that now, since he has always told them our plans.
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don't really see the point. They were too sorry to defend their country when they had genuine US backing. What would make them do it right this time?
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1GrdTakvl8[/youtube]
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Iowahawk had the perfect Tweet about this:
Let's fight ISIS by sending people who aren't allowed to fight ISIS to train people who don't want to fight ISIS
https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/608737401104535552
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450 troops? Can this have any real affect or is it just window dressing to show he has a plan to fight isis?
Task Force Smith was about 450 soldiers too.
Just sayin...
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450 troops? Can this have any real affect or is it just window dressing to show he has a plan to fight isis?
Nope. Window dressing. Positioning it in Anbar to train Sunni militias does mean the Shi'ite government will be even less cooperative than they have been so far, and basically is a tacit admission that the the training of the central government's official army isn't going anywhere productive.
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"Iraq will be one of Barak Obama's greatest successes."
Joe "Choo-Choo" Biden
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"Iraq will be one of Barak Obama's greatest successes."
Joe "Choo-Choo" Biden
But Biden is right. It's just that his definition of 'success' is what a real man calls 'abject failure.'
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But Biden is right. It's just that his definition of 'success' is what a real man calls 'abject failure.'
That depends on whose side you are on as to whether it is a success. Iran and ISIS is fighting it out to claim Iraq. Obama is cheering on both teams.
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That depends on whose side you are on as to whether it is a success. Iran and ISIS is fighting it out to claim Iraq. Obama is cheering on both teams.
Don't get me started on Iran. We have the first President in history whose entire foreign policy is based on a single imperative: "Do they like me?"
Worthless turd.
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Don't get me started on Iran. We have the first President in history whose entire foreign policy is based on a single imperative: "Do they Muslims like me?"
Worthless turd.
FIFY. Obama has done everything he can to turn our allies against us while appeasing Muslims. Granted, it could be their anti-Jew ideal that he likes so much.
Considering the fact that most of the countries pushing Obama's deal with Iran, are also somewhat antisemitic.
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Don't get me started on Iran. We have the first President in history whose entire foreign policy is based on a single imperative: "Do they like me?"
Worthless turd.
I think that his foreign policy is to take the west and America down three to five pegs. He hates the west in general and America specifically.
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I think that his foreign policy is to take the west and America down three to five pegs. He hates the west in general and America specifically.
The only silver lining in this tornado shit storm is that obumble will probably retire to some large city. Hopefully it will be the first attacked with a WMD and he will get the honor of watching his kids choking on their own blood due to his 8 years in office.
Sounds cruel and heartless I know. Karma has a way of bringing all your misdeeds right back on your doorstep and I think due to his policies it is just a matter of when it will happen.
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450 troops? Can this have any real affect or is it just window dressing to show he has a plan to fight isis?
450 today, another 400-500 later, then another 500+ later on, and so on and so on, before you know it, it's Vietnam all over again... :thatsright:
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Quote from: DLR Pyro on June 10, 2015, 11:05:48 PM
450 troops? Can this have any real affect or is it just window dressing to show he has plan to fight isis?
Roughly, three Rifle Companies, minus any support.
Not even a band-aid.
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Roughly, three Rifle Companies, minus any support.
Not even a band-aid.
Barely a "Steri-Strip". :mad:
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Barely a "Steri-Strip". :mad:
Administration officials have contacted me and informed me that, it does qualify as a speck of toilet paper on a sucking chest wound.