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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on June 05, 2015, 11:04:15 PM
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Motown_Johnny (17,293 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026787321
Who remembers HRC's behavior in the 2008 Primaries?
Fine, call me a Hillary Hater. I know that some people here can't tolerate any criticism at all. I can take it. I don't hate her (and will vote for her if she is our nominee) but I do feel as if I was treated unfairly in '08 and I can't be the only one.
I do appreciate that she is out there trying to do something about the disenfranchisement of millions of voters. Her statements would have more credibility if she had not done what she did the last time she ran for office.
Yes yes yes.... I know that a primary vote is not a constitutionally protected right but it still should not be manipulated for the sake of personal ambition.
I wonder what part of Democracy she was afraid of?
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2008/03/03/clintons-duplicity-michigan-florida-delegates
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How did the Florida-Michigan debacle come to pass? And by what means can the mishaps of the Democratic National Committee and state party officials be rectified before the Democratic party convention in August in Denver, Colorado?
The Michigan-Florida delegate controversy began to percolate in December 2007, when state party officials announced their intentions to hold early primaries in direct violation of Democratic National Committee agreements and rules. The DNC took a hard line, telling state officials that rebel primaries were ceremonial and would not be counted at the convention. Both states disregarded the DNC position and held maverick primaries in January. Eager to please the superdelegates on the DNC, both Clinton and Obama agreed with the rules, and both signed pledges not to campaign in either state. "You know," Senator Clinton remarked, "it's clear the election they're having isn't going to count for anything. Obama's name did not even appear on the ballot in Michigan." (Obama was not allowed to withdraw his name in Florida.)
Clinton, however, hedged her bets. Though she vowed not to campaign, a vow that implies rejection of the election, she kept her name in the running in Michigan. She won the contest easily because Obama's name was kept off the ballot. (Jesse Jackson won the Michigan primary in 1984.) Then, coincidentally she arrived at the Miami airport for a fundraiser on the eve of the Florida vote.
The second approach, a solution that Clinton is prepared to force on the Party regardless of the consequences, is also faulty. Clinton now claims she deserves the delegates from Michigan and Florida. Yes, Obama played by the rules. Tough on him.
P.S. I voted "uncommitted" for the first (and only) time in my life because of this.
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Erich Bloodaxe BSN (8,382 posts)
1. That and other things even more distasteful. 2007-2008 saw a lot of bad behaviour from candidates, surrogates, and supporters.
DJ13 (22,845 posts)
6. I remember.... she was a real c.....
........campaigner.
Don't worry. I alerted on this post.
Exilednight (7,055 posts)
8. I remember the dog whistles her and Bill blew, but many Suffer from either memory loss or selective hearing.
Oh yes... I remember the entire birther scandal started with Hillary... among other things.
Doesn't matter. Hillary will be your candidate. Suck it up, buttercup.