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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: ScubaGuy on July 18, 2008, 01:27:20 PM
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Damn these people are really nuts.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3637130#3638717 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3637130#3638717)
ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-17-08 08:21 PM
Original message
So I turn on the TV to watch Olbermann and the screen is blank
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Edited on Thu Jul-17-08 08:37 PM by ooglymoogly
I then go to comcast linup and the channel has been removed. I have a digital TV. I put that question on google and saw some alarming news; That comcast may be dropping MSNBC from their lineup. Does anyone have any further news on this alarming story?
Oh no I must have my nightly Keef fix.
scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-17-08 08:22 PM
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1. In the Pittsburgh area, MSNBC was moved from 31 to 183 on Monday
...and it sucks.
OK so the channel was moved. Nothing unusual about that. Or is there?
faygokid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-17-08 08:30 PM
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5. What?! This is a major cable network. The Bushites have to be behind this.
We are not going to make it to January 20.
Time is running out on us.
Yes that's it. The secret signal to the VRWC storm troopers. We attack in 48 hours!
ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-17-08 09:28 PM
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14. Fox of course just comes in as usual
as does cnn and most of the other channels.
And so does MSNBC you just have to turn to the new channel.
PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-17-08 09:27 PM
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13. I sent an email to Comcast expressing my opinion that this was political
because neither FOX nor CNN got moved to the upper tier. I received a phone call back. The woman said they are receiving many complaints and she would forward mine. She said there was a possibility MSNBC would be moved back. I told her that Comcast was the topic of discussion at a "Democratic online discussion group with more than 100,000 registered users, and that most felt there was a political motivation for the switch and many were strongly considering switching to AT&T or Dish Network. I said I would be doing the same if they did not restore MSNBC soon.
If you haven't called or written to complain, I urge you to do so. Link for Comcast feedback here:
http://www.comcast.com/Corporate/Customers/Contactus/Co...
Click on "Email Rick" in option #6.
:lmao:
TwoSparkles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-17-08 11:51 PM
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18. Geez....
...anyone feel like the walls are closing in?
They're destroying us economically. We can all be detained by the President and declared
"enemy combatants" and they're making it more difficult to find the truth, via the media.
...and that's just the tip of the iceberg.
The world is not ending. They just moved the frickin channel you fool.
TwoSparkles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-18-08 10:47 AM
Response to Reply #23
30. Do you think we'll make it to that point...
...without some kind of snafu happening?
I just don't see these bastard neocons slinking away in defeat.
Getting a foothold in Iraq was just the first step. However, it
took them decades to get that foothold.
I don't see them relinquishing power. They all know that if they
lose, that foothold is gone and similar progress won't ever be witnessed
in their lifetimes.
Yep first it was Iraq, next up Iran and MSNBC.
slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-18-08 04:24 AM
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25. I don't live in a Comcast area (thankfully), but I'm calling them tomorrow
Edited on Fri Jul-18-08 04:25 AM by slay
I plan on filing a complaint, as well as filing one with the FCC. It's bullshit that FauxNews gets to stay on regular cable while msnbc gets shoved off to the higher digital channels. :mad:
DUmmies still don't realize that the FCC can't do squat about CABLE.
libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-18-08 01:53 PM
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36. That is alarming
What about the part were we are supposed to have a 'free press'? I don't have cable TV because I have cable internet and can't afford both. I watch Keith on clips in the Video forum.
WTF?
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We are not going to make it to January 20.
And I guess when you wake up on January 21st and your life is still miserable and pathetic it will be Bush's fault too huh DUmmie?
:whatever:
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Ok everyone, e-mail Rick and thank him from moving a substandard station to the abyss.
http://www.comcast.com/Corporate/Customers/Contactus/Contactus.html?lid=2CustomersContactus&pos=Nav
:-)
Thank you for moving MSNBC. I've read on a Dem board that you're being threatened with people leaving because of this. I've also read that they're saying the board has 100K members. This is patently false. The board has had 100K members over the life of 8 years, but about 95K have been banned for being too moderate or conservative. The board is Democratic Underground and it's full of kooks. You guys do what you need to do for the sake of the bottom line, I.e. profit. To hell with these fools. No need to contact me. "I'm" not displeased with the move. It wouldn't bother me if the entire channel was removed, however, this is a free country. Kevin Burns, yes, a Comcast subscriber in the Augusta-Evans, Ga. area.
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I understand the argument - but it holds no water. Comcast is a private company, and they can move channels anywhere they wish. Dont like it ? Dont subscribe. Personally, I don't care.
The heart of the complaint is now you cant just plug a cable ready TV into an active line and get MSNBC, because the usual cable-ready television only recognizes channels to 127 or so. - You would then need a converter box from the cable company.
And after the conversion to full digital broadcast, everyone is going to need a converter box anyway, since channels 1-127 are currently simulcast in analog - Thats the signal you get using a cable ready set, not the digital one.
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Yes lurking asshats, the "Bushites" are fiddling with your cable channel lineup. You know, because there's nothing else really pressing going on.
*eyeroll*
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I've noticed that the companies cluster "stations". Most by "subject", all the news together, etc. Others do a mix, viewership and then type. No viewers, you may get moved to the END of the chain, or the begining depending on how the programmer orders it. hERE, IT IS LOWEST HITS FIRST, HIGHEST LAST. So their point was, what, exactly?
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I understand the argument - but it holds no water. Comcast is a private company, and they can move channels anywhere they wish. Dont like it ? Dont subscribe. Personally, I don't care.
The heart of the complaint is now you cant just plug a cable ready TV into an active line and get MSNBC, because the usual cable-ready television only recognizes channels to 127 or so. - You would then need a converter box from the cable company.
And after the conversion to full digital broadcast, everyone is going to need a converter box anyway, since channels 1-127 are currently simulcast in analog - Thats the signal you get using a cable ready set, not the digital one.
From a related thread.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3620268#3640262 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3620268#3640262)
JodyD (1 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-18-08 01:11 PM
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34. Comcast
Hello, I am Jody Doherty. I work for Comcast in Pittsburgh.I
read scheming daemons post regarding MSNBC moving from
standard cable to digital. For starters, this was not the
only channel that we moved to a digital line-up.We moved six
channels to Digital starter, including G4, which Comcast
owns. This enabled us to launch 9 new HD channels and two new
digital channels. The demand from our customers for more, more
HD continues to grow. You do not have to go without seeing
MSNBC because Comcast is offering a free digital box to those
customers for one year. Not only will you see MSNBC, but also
have 10,000 video on demand choices available to you. As far
as the Golf Channel, it was always an analog channel and was
simply reassigned another channel number.
They don't even need to buy anything.
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MSNBC Says It Erred On June ‘Hardball’ Ratings
Fox News Regains ‘News Demo’ Lead In Q2
By Linda Moss -- Multichannel News, 7/1/2008 4:52:00 PM
http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6574974.html
CNN and Fox News Channel both pointed out Tuesday that MSNBC included special coverage of Tim Russert’s death and memorial in its June data ratings for Hardball With Chris Matthews – prompting MSNBC to say it made an error.
The flap was over a press release that MSNBC issued, based on Nielsen data, with the headline “MSNBC’s ‘Hardball’ No. 1 Among Adults in June at 5 p.m.â€
According to the release, Hardball averaged 190,000 adults 25 to 54 in June, beating CNN and Fox News at 5 p.m. in that demographic for the first time since February 2002.
But the announcement immediately drew fire from CNN and Fox News, who charged that MSNBC was using straight 5 p.m. time slot data for June, not data solely for Hardball.
By using the 5 p.m. info, rather than program data, MSNBC was including in its tally special coverage it had aired on Meet the Press moderator Russert’s death and memorial.
Without that special coverage, MSNBC’s numbers drop. Instead, CNN’s Situation Room at 5 p.m. ranked No. 1 in June in the 25-to-54 age group, averaging 186,000 of those watchers, while Fox News’s American’s Election HQ was second with 179,000. MSNBC’s Hardball was third with 171,000.
An MSNBC spokesman conceded that the network had made an error in including the Russert coverage along with that for Hardball at 5 p.m.
“We used time-period data to calculate our ratings, like we always do. However, had we realized that Hardball wouldn’t have finished No. 1 for the month with the special coverage excluded, we wouldn’t have issued the press release as written,†the MSNBC spokesman said. “It was an error on our part.â€
For the second quarter in primetime, Fox News Channel was No. 1 in overall viewers with 1.6 million. CNN placed second with 961,000 and MSNBC third with 690,000. -snipped-
690,000 out of 300,000,000. I think you'd be hard pressed to actually find fifty people in the same city who would give a flying damn about MSNBC
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I'm betting they moved it cause MSNBC sucks Keith Olberman sucks, and their rating are the suckietst~!
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Yeah, they can give that channel to a station that gets better ratings. Like Spike TV. :lmao:
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DUdes! I got a cool idea! Why don't you guys start your own network! I can feel all the passion in your posts, so howze about putting it all into a TV Station? I'm Series!111! You guys could rule the cable airwaves like you did with talk radio!
Oh. Nevermind.
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In the Philly area, at least, you have to pay a substanital fee to get channels 101-200. So that move will cost the DUmmies if they want to watch.
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Yeah, they can give that channel to a station that gets better ratings. Like Spike TV. :lmao:
Actually Kev they have a show on there called Lockup-Raw that is very entertaining! They go around to all of these prisons with a camera to show the viewer different aspects of life in a maximum security prison! Good show!
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Even though I know it to be true it still amazes me how completely ignorant of reality DUmmies are regarding everything.
Comcast is moving a channel that doesn`t get great ratings compared to its peers in an attempt to provide channels that are more appealing to its current,or more important to them...potential future subscribers.
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Yes lurking asshats, the "Bushites" are fiddling with your cable channel lineup. You know, because there's nothing else really pressing going on.
*eyeroll*
Someone needs to do a Ceiling Cat - "I am in UR Cable Moving UR Keth"
(http://cache.consumerist.com/assets/resources/2007/03/This%20cat%20will%20not%20let%20you%20return%20that%20tv%20-%20This%20cat's%20name%20is%20Circuit%20City.jpg)
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/kademan/catx.jpg)
:-)
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I emailed Rick and told him that I was thankful they removed the dying station MSNBC and that if they restored it, I was dropping Comcast and going to Direct TV.
Well, I'm already on Direct TV... but still, I'm playing the DUmmy game. :)