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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: FlippyDoo on May 04, 2015, 10:47:26 PM
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First up we have a cut and paste job from cali. Didn't read it. Didn't need to. The all-knowing-one was there to explain it all.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026619874#post1
Mon May 4, 2015, 04:04 PM
Star Member cali (100,096 posts)
You should give a damn what she believes: Pamela Geller is flat out dangerous.
You wanted the best! You got the best! The greatest DUmmie in the world!
Response to phil89 (Reply #1)Mon May 4, 2015, 04:14 PM
nadinbrzezinski (136,361 posts)
4. She has free speech to push her speech
right and to the point that she crosses certain legal lines. Like neo nazis she can call for genocide, but once she actually gets to the point of becoming a physical thread...
And there are actual limits to free speech. One of them is incitement. Mind you, in this particular case good luck proving that in a court of law, but rights are not absolute
And yes, she is just as dangerous as a few other big hate filled talkers in the past. I do not see her any differently than father Coughlin for example. And she was as much rights as Rush Limbaugh, who these days is learning some practical limits as well, mind you, not imposed by the state.
Oh and if I had a child in that school system, I would be thinking about keeping the wee one home for a couple days by the way...
Wee one? Is she Irish now? I'm part Irish Settler wonder if she's kin to me? I suppose it doesn't matter. I do notice that she seems to have here condescension in neutral. Will it stay there? I don't know. An 8 cylinder four barrel carb big block engine of condescension is made to tear up the track. Not just sit in idle. So let's see if she pops the clutch on the better-than-you wagon.
Response to cbayer (Reply #12)Mon May 4, 2015, 04:22 PM
nadinbrzezinski (136,361 posts)
16. Here your post
Cbayer (144,016 posts)
2. She wants war and doesn't give a shit about the first amendment.
This was an offensive attack that solicited exactly the response she hoped for. Extra added bonus, she gets support from the far right and the far left!
I have seen no one absolving the attackers of blame or responsibility, but I'm seeing lots of that regarding her despicable behavior.
You realize that you would be more accurate by using the term libertarian... which spans all from the far right, to the center, to the far left.
On Edit: Of course you would have to explain to me what far left means in this country, because it does not mean what it does anywhere else in the world
Well, looks like she's popped the condescension machine into first gear, but it's not off to a great start. Maybe the fuel mixture is off.
Response to cbayer (Reply #17)Mon May 4, 2015, 04:27 PM
nadinbrzezinski (136,361 posts)
21. Those who tend to be absolutists on free speech
tend to have a certain libertarian bent... I am using the term in the political science definition of the term though, Far left among center right democrats, usually means hippies, it is code.
Sorry for bringing this up. But quite honestly it is rather cute, and one reason why traditional alliances in the democratic party are at the moment quite frayed.
With that, I have some to read on actual infrastructure policy, less painful actually than this.
It is code and everyone knows that code is the first cousin to dog whistle. Or is it second cousin first removed? I never can get those things straight since missing the class prof. nad taught on relativity. Silly me thought it would be a class on Einstein, and I dropped the course upon learning otherwise.
Good to see that nad has to suffer through some infrastructure policy reading which is less painful than trying to correct and ride herd over the DUmbass at the DUmbass Emporium.
That's all for me. I took a pain pill for my back that is making me write like nadin. So I best stop while I'm behind. I will say that while the above wasn't the best show ever produced by the all-knowing-one it does contain a "yup" and a "cute". She even went rebel and tossed in a "not cute" in one spot. She's a a big word that slips my mind right now.
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Response to phil89 (Reply #1)Mon May 4, 2015, 04:14 PM
nadinbrzezinski (136,361 posts)
4. She has free speech to push her speech
right and to the point that she crosses certain legal lines. Like neo nazis she can call for genocide, but once she actually gets to the point of becoming a physical thread...
Threads can be very threatening.
Especially if they are loose threads.
A stitch in time saves nine.
For want of a loose thread a kingdom was lost.
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Response to cbayer (Reply #45)Mon May 4, 2015, 05:18 PM
nadinbrzezinski (136,361 posts)
52. Conflating support for the first amendment...
with support for Geller is far from cute.
But I will play... you think that people who believe that the first amendment has no limits are far leftists? I got news for you, this is lack of knowledge of the well trodden case law on actual limits is quite common and it is a failure of the US Educational system.
You should also become familiar with actual case law before you continue down this line.
Does that mean I agree with her views? That be conflating.
And that be retardant. (One of the best all-time examples of nadinese.)
(Of course, nadin has no idea what "conflating" means. She just read it on google.)
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #52)Mon May 4, 2015, 05:28 PM
Star Member cbayer (144,060 posts)
62. You have completely misstated and /or misunderstood my entire position, but
as you say, as to the rest, I am not going to get baited into that conversation
It's really nice to see cbayer the thread slayer get bitchslapped like tht.
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Response to cbayer (Reply #17)Mon May 4, 2015, 04:27 PM
nadinbrzezinski (136,361 posts)
21. Those who tend to be absolutists on free speech
tend to have a certain libertarian bent... I am using the term in the political science definition of the term though, Far left among center right democrats, usually means hippies, it is code.
Sorry for bringing this up. But quite honestly it is rather cute, and one reason why traditional alliances in the democratic party are at the moment quite frayed.
With that, I have some to read on actual infrastructure policy, less painful actually than this.
(http://www.thescifishow.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/SpockWTF.jpeg)