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Title: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: CC27 on May 01, 2015, 12:15:09 PM
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Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids


Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids

http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/gadgets/obama-announce-free-e-books-low-income-kids-n351101

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Working with publishers and libraries, the White House sees the modest plan as part of a strategy to address inner city problems by increasing educational opportunities for kids -- woes brought into focus with recent riots in nearby Baltimore.

Kids will need computers and devices to read the e-books. Jeff Zients, Obama's top economic adviser, noted the White House had previously announced programs to upgrade Internet services for schools and libraries, with private sector help from companies including Apple, which pledged $100 million in devices to low-income schools.

"If we're serious about living up to what our country is about, then we have to consider what we can do to provide opportunities in every community, not just when they're on the front page, but every day," Zients said in a briefing with reporters.

The plan includes $250 million in e-book commitments from publishers, including from the five major publishing houses: Macmillan, Simon & Schuster, Penguin Random House, Hachette, and HarperCollins.

DUmmies are mad they did not get one.  :whatever:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026599956
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: Chris_ on May 01, 2015, 12:25:17 PM
My library already does that.  I imagine most libraries in major cities do as well.  Do we have to have a federal program to give library cards to low-income children as well?
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: obumazombie on May 01, 2015, 12:54:25 PM
It must be nice to have as your only duty a job that consists of looking at a list of not free stuff, and liberating them one by one.
But you don't actually have to do anything more than make an announcement.
Leave the minutia up to the peons to figure out.
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: I_B_Perky on May 01, 2015, 07:43:13 PM
Prediction: The equipment will end up at the pawn shop.
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: J P Sousa on May 01, 2015, 08:00:15 PM
But will they need FREE tutors to help them read those free E-Books ?  :thatsright:
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: DLR Pyro on May 01, 2015, 08:07:56 PM
Do we have to have a federal program to give library cards to low-income children as well?
not really needed.  All a child has to do is go to a nearby library, request a library card form, have their parent(s) sign the form and return it to the library whereupon they will be rewarded with a library card of their own at no cost to them.
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: Chris_ on May 01, 2015, 08:12:37 PM
not really needed.  All a child has to do is go to a nearby library, request a library card form, have their parent(s) sign the form and return it to the library whereupon they will be rewarded with a library card of their own at no cost to them.
That's too difficult. 
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on May 01, 2015, 08:19:45 PM
Actually not a bad idea, as long as it doesn't involve giving every poor kid, good or bad, illiterate or avid reader, a personal tablet as well.  The most rudimentary knowledge of fundamental economic thinking would tell you that giving a valuable item to someone who does not value it more than other needs will quickly result in that person trading or selling the item to get something they really do want.

Of course, so far the Democrats and Obozo in particular have demonstrated that none of them actually grasp the fundamentals of economic decision-making, so there's that...
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: FlaGator on May 01, 2015, 08:38:02 PM
They are low income but they have enough money to buy a device that can load and display an ebook.
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: SVPete on May 01, 2015, 09:23:17 PM
A lot depends on what the program entails. If a "free" e-reader of some sort is given out, it's going to be another drain on taxpayers, and pawn shops will be flooded (and maybe some wink-wink going on with the mfr of the e-reader). OTOH, if it's "free" content, most books can be gotten on "loan" from libraries for free. A lot of classic books can be bought from B & N and Amazon for a buck or two. So if it's "free" content, it's a lot of hype and very little substance.
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: zeitgeist on May 01, 2015, 09:45:19 PM
Let me think.  Oh yeah, Apple has lots of cash and can easily provide tablets at cost.  Redistribution don't ya know. 

http://venturebeat.com/2012/03/17/ipad-teardown-reveals-375-10-total-cost/
 :rotf:
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on May 01, 2015, 10:42:48 PM
Let me think.  Oh yeah, Apple has lots of cash and can easily provide tablets at cost.  Redistribution don't ya know. 

http://venturebeat.com/2012/03/17/ipad-teardown-reveals-375-10-total-cost/
 :rotf:

Actually Apple's educational support strategy was and is designed to farm future Apple brand loyalists.  They put Apple products in the hands of future consumers at a loss and then reap the rewards in later years.
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on May 01, 2015, 11:00:25 PM
Prediction: The equipment will end up at the pawn shop.
:II:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UbL5zXs-1Dc/UJ6Hv8fUGaI/AAAAAAAAFFE/pCaZEfGyUaE/s1600/hardcore-pawn-15.jpg)
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on May 01, 2015, 11:06:14 PM
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Quote from: DLR Pyro on Today at 08:07:56 PM
not really needed.  All a child has to do is go to a nearby library, request a library card form, have their parent(s) sign the form and return it to the library whereupon they will be rewarded with a library card of their own at no cost to them.

That's too difficult.

And no political points with Low IQ tards who have no idea you can already do that, but know everything else there is to know.

Just axe them.
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: Skul on May 01, 2015, 11:46:25 PM
Bamaphone, Bamabooks.  Mm mm mmmm

I can just emagine what comes preloaded.
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: Chris_ on May 02, 2015, 12:17:00 AM
71 iPads issued to students have gone missing, LAUSD says (http://articles.latimes.com/2013/sep/27/local/la-me-ln-ipads-issued-to-students-missing-20130927)

Some people never learn from their mistakes.
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: GOBUCKS on May 02, 2015, 01:39:14 AM
Don't ever get between a Crip and his Kindle.
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: obumazombie on May 02, 2015, 02:07:08 AM
Actually Apple's educational support strategy was and is designed to farm future Apple brand loyalists.  They put Apple products in the hands of future consumers at a loss and then reap the rewards in later years.


Not at a loss.
The full price customers are subsiding the "at a loss" customers.
Another variation on a theme of income redistribution.
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: Big Dog on May 02, 2015, 02:16:36 AM
Bamaphone, Bamabooks.  Mm mm mmmm

I can just emagine what comes preloaded.

Das Kapital, Abridged for Today's Youth.

Heather is His Own Mommy- A Transgender Journey

'You Didn't Build That', and Other Inspirational Words from our Dear Leader

Whack a Cracka, and Other Games
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: DLR Pyro on May 02, 2015, 11:20:17 AM
71 iPads issued to students have gone missing, LAUSD says (http://articles.latimes.com/2013/sep/27/local/la-me-ln-ipads-issued-to-students-missing-20130927)

Some people never learn from their mistakes.

if just 71 iPads went missing from the LAUSD boondoggle, I'd say the tax payer got off easy.
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: JohnnyReb on May 02, 2015, 12:42:11 PM
Bamaphone, Bamabooks.  Mm mm mmmm

I can just emagine what comes preloaded.
How long will it be until we have to pay someone to spoon feed them and wipe their ass for them?
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: redwhit on May 02, 2015, 12:48:53 PM
You know, my town already does something like this.  When parents bring kids in for a check-up at certain clinics they're told about the benefits of reading to small children and offered a couple age appropriate books.  Although no one is required to, they often bring the books back so other families can have the same experience.

If nothing else, it shows which parents actually care about their kids.
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: thundley4 on May 02, 2015, 07:56:00 PM
What Obama proposes will cost all of us. Why not just provide information to people about existing sites?

https://archive.org/details/texts

https://www.gutenberg.org/

Sure, they are books that are in the public domain, but many of them are classics and available free already.
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: RobJohnson on May 02, 2015, 08:07:46 PM
Most schools have school libraries that are full of books. What is wrong with the books they already have that are collecting dust?
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: SVPete on May 02, 2015, 10:46:23 PM
Most schools have school libraries that are full of books. What is wrong with the books they already have that are collecting dust?

Like the books on Project Gutenberg and similar sites, those books are OLD and not cool.
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: redwhit on May 04, 2015, 09:52:08 PM
Like the books on Project Gutenberg and similar sites, those books are OLD and not cool.

There might be some nasty stuff in some of those old books like self-sufficiency, the great strength that can come from faith, and how overly centralized power causes unnecessary suffering.

Hell, there might even be some stuff about how boys grow up into men and girls grow up into women and while both are important they aren't the same and shouldn't be.

Even worse, those books might even talk about the power of family and how for generations people always looked to relations for help before they would allow themselves the desperation of looking for others to feed them through taxes.

Old books probably don't have the required number of gay marriages, transexuals, welfare recipients, illegal immigrants, Christians being evil, Muslims being perfect, and Obama saving the world. 

By the way, do you know Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize?  And it wasn't even for attendance?
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: DLR Pyro on May 05, 2015, 01:14:55 PM
There might be some nasty stuff in some of those old books like self-sufficiency, the great strength that can come from faith, and how overly centralized power causes unnecessary suffering.

Hell, there might even be some stuff about how boys grow up into men and girls grow up into women and while both are important they aren't the same and shouldn't be.

Even worse, those books might even talk about the power of family and how for generations people always looked to relations for help before they would allow themselves the desperation of looking for others to feed them through taxes.

Old books probably don't have the required number of gay marriages, transexuals, welfare recipients, illegal immigrants, Christians being evil, Muslims being perfect, and Obama saving the world. 

By the way, do you know Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize?  And it wasn't even for attendance?

Steinbeck's novel, "The Grapes of Wrath" come to mind.  The story of a family devastated by the depression and the dust bowl who picked up stakes and moved to California in search of  jobs, prosperity and self sufficiency rather than wallow in pity in their wrecked home, bitch about how oppressed they are and demand a hand out from the government.

Can't have the yutes of today reading about trash like that....
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: Gina on May 05, 2015, 01:38:51 PM
They need to put a crank on the e book reader.  Make them work for it.

(http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/ns/cms/dn8338/dn8338-1_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: J P Sousa on May 05, 2015, 01:46:17 PM
They need to put a crank on the e book reader.  Make them work for it.

(http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/ns/cms/dn8338/dn8338-1_600.jpg)

An "off the grid" reader......cool.
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: freedumb2003b on May 05, 2015, 03:06:33 PM
They are low income but they have enough money to buy a device that can load and display an ebook.

I think obamaphones have that capability
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: delilahmused on May 05, 2015, 04:00:01 PM

Not at a loss.
The full price customers are subsiding the "at a loss" customers.
Another variation on a theme of income redistribution.

I just think it's a smart idea on Apple's part. It's a right off and then they get future customers, if only just a percentage of those given the free items. And it's good publicity. Apple products are priced at what consumers are willing to pay, like most things in a capitalist society. I'm getting a product I want for my money so if they choose to use some of their profits giving away free ipads or whatever, so be it. I don't see how it's redistribution, though. When the money I pay in taxes is redistributed, I get nothing out of it. Here, I get a product I want and what the company chooses to use that money for is their business.

Cindie
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: Duke Nukum on May 05, 2015, 05:09:56 PM
Doesn't Obama realize that you can't set an eBook on fire?
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: Chris_ on May 05, 2015, 05:12:57 PM
Doesn't Obama realize that you can't set an eBook on fire?
No rioting at the eLibrary.
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: jukin on May 05, 2015, 05:18:57 PM
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It is not, and never has been "free."

Someone always pays for it.

Usually innocents.

Said by some idiot DUchebag (birm).
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: obumazombie on May 05, 2015, 10:04:31 PM
I just think it's a smart idea on Apple's part. It's a right off and then they get future customers, if only just a percentage of those given the free items. And it's good publicity. Apple products are priced at what consumers are willing to pay, like most things in a capitalist society. I'm getting a product I want for my money so if they choose to use some of their profits giving away free ipads or whatever, so be it. I don't see how it's redistribution, though. When the money I pay in taxes is redistributed, I get nothing out of it. Here, I get a product I want and what the company chooses to use that money for is their business.

Cindie

I noticed on my phone bill I have to pay a tax to subsidize low income phone customers who "can't" pay their bill.
Same for gas and electric.
Water
Sewer
It seems like all the utilities are like that.
I see your point, and I also see my money going to fund people who didn't earn it.

It's like the pro bono attorney scheme.
If they didn't do pro bono work, their paying customers could be given a discount.
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: jukin on May 06, 2015, 01:17:33 PM
I have not confirmed this but why do that in the age of state controlled media. King Barky the Liar of Fecal Touch is finding $250 million to fund this great idea. It is supposed to help 100,000 kids. That works out to $2500 per ebook reader. Talk about your Obama/democrat donation paying off.
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: GOBUCKS on May 06, 2015, 01:54:26 PM
I have not confirmed this but why do that in the age of state controlled media. King Barky the Liar of Fecal Touch is finding $250 million to fund this great idea. It is supposed to help 100,000 kids. That works out to $2500 per ebook reader. Talk about your Obama/democrat donation paying off.

$250 million for $10 million in Kindles.

That's about how it would go if the Clinton Foundation handled it.

I hope Chelsea is planning to take care of Webb Hubbell in his old age.
Title: Re: Obama to Announce Free E-Books for Low-Income Kids
Post by: BlueStateSaint on May 06, 2015, 02:11:30 PM
I hope Chelsea is planning to take care of Webb Hubbell in his old age.

She'll make sure that his grave is well-maintained . . .