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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: miskie on May 01, 2015, 08:28:21 AM
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The primitives are on a roll - one of them posts this article, completely misses the reason behind the altercation, along with the primitive respondents. Thread here.. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026600676
Cops do it again. Now it's "Charging Your Electric Vehicle While Black".
A Santa Monica man was arrested on April 21 while attempting to charge his electric vehicle, and the incident is sparking discussions of racial profiling and the use of force that mirror the current national debate.
All sides agree on a basic set of facts. Justin Leland Palmer, 36, an African-American, NYU grad and father of four with no criminal history, was at the Virginia Avenue Park electric car charging station on the evening of April 21. He was asked to leave the charging station by police, he refused, he was asked for his identification, he refused, he was then tackled to the ground, pepper-sprayed and arrested. However, details, including why some of those actions were taken, are heavily disputed.
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Camarena said when contacted, Palmer refused to leave the charging station and after making multiple requests for him to leave, officers decided to issue Palmer a citation. Palmer refused to provide his identification as part of the citation process, at which point officers decided to make an arrest for obstructing an officer and violating the posted hours of the park.
“During the arrest, the subject actively resisted,†said a statement issued by SMPD. “Officers deployed pepper spray and physically restrained him. The subject was taken to Santa Monica Public Safety Facility where he was fingerprinted and booked. At the Santa Monica Jail the subject complained of pain. He was transported to the Santa Monica Hospital for treatment and was medically cleared. The subject was subsequently issued a citation and released.â€
http://smdp.com/police-pepper-spray-santa-monica-man-park-dispute/147521#sthash.S9rXP1TS.dpuf
More details:
Palmer would not comment. Instead, he directed questions to his attorney, Justin H. Sanders, a Partner with Sanders, Roberts & Jewett.
According to Sanders, Palmer routinely uses the charging stations at the park. On April 21, he said, Palmer entered the park at about 9:30 p.m. and found all the charging bays in use. He waited in his car until about 10:30 p.m. when a charger became available. Palmer drove from one side of the parking lot to the now-open charging station, where officers contacted him.
Sanders described the officers’ behavior as “aggressive†from the start and said his client was singled out for police contact despite the presence of other people using the park and charging vehicles. He said when Palmer asked officers to explain why he was being prohibited from using the stations, the officers demanded to see identification. Palmer questioned why his identification was needed, as he felt he had done nothing wrong, and it was at that point he was arrested. According to Sanders, the arresting officer cuffed Palmer’s hands behind his back, swept his legs from under him and took him to the ground. While on the ground, Sanders said, a second officer used pepper spray on Palmer.
http://insideevs.com/attempt-to-charge-nissan-leaf-after-hours-ends-with-owner-pepper-sprayed-and-tackled-by-police-wvideo/
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FYI, this is the paragraph the primitive felt needed to be 'removed' and replaced with dots...
According to Sgt. Rudy Camarena, officers were making a routine check of the park as part of their patrol. The park closes at 11 p.m., but the electric vehicle charging stations close at 8 p.m. Public records show officers registering as at the park at about 10:54 p.m
So, the arrested person had until 8PM to plug his car in, and until 11PM to unplug it. He plugged in after 1030PM meaning he would have been there until about 3AM or so, well after closing. The primitive also edited the part out where the officers went from station to station telling people that the park closes at 11, and that they need to unplug and leave, and all of that went without incident.
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FYI, this is the paragraph the primitive felt needed to be 'removed' and replaced with dots...
A DUmmy lying by omission.
Who'd a thunk it?
:lmao:
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A DUmmy lying by omission.
Who'd a thunk it?
:lmao:
They lie to themselves so much that just about everything they say is a lie.
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Gee! Here's the relevant facts:
* He was charging his absurdly-short-ranged-and-expensive electric toy using a publicly provided facility on public property;
* He was doing the charging outside of posted hours (curfews in parks are common; the curfew for the park across the street for me is 1/2 hour after sunset);
* He refused multiple requests/instructions to comply with the curfew by leaving;
* He refused the minimal cooperation of showing his ID when asked to do so.
Though not mentioned in the article, I suspect he was also bluing the air with his foul language.
Disregarding my speculation about the language the dude used, had this older white dude been as triply stupid as he was, my "white" tail would have been arrested, too! And the rest of me as well!
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FYI, this is the paragraph the primitive felt needed to be 'removed' and replaced with dots...
So, the arrested person had until 8PM to plug his car in, and until 11PM to unplug it. He plugged in after 1030PM meaning he would have been there until about 3AM or so, well after closing. The primitive also edited the part out where the officers went from station to station telling people that the park closes at 11, and that they need to unplug and leave, and all of that went without incident.
When considering "news" stories like this one, always, always, always: check to see if it happened at all; look for misrepresentations; look for omitted information that contradicts the narrative being pushed.
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It's one of those situation where the subject does everything they can to ramp up the situation in order to get a 'gotcha' moment against the police.
I think the video from the Police cruisers should be fun to watch.
As they say: Play Stupid Games get Stupid Results.
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Using nads' profound research tool, the Duck Dick Go edition, I found that Santa Monica PD uses both dash cams and body cams. So entertainment may be forthcoming if this provocateur does try to pursue it.
BTW, Santa Monica is half a galaxy away from hellholes like South Central. It's pretty yuppie-preppy-hipster.
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They lie to themselves so much that just about everything they say is a lie.
They have to. It's the only way their warped worldview makes any sense.
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BTW, Santa Monica is half a galaxy away from hellholes like South Central. It's pretty yuppie-preppy-hipster.
Pretty pricey, also. IIRC.
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It's one of those situation where the subject does everything they can to ramp up the situation in order to get a 'gotcha' moment against the police.
I think the video from the Police cruisers should be fun to watch.
As they say: Play Stupid Games get Stupid Results.
^ This.
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Using nads' profound research tool, the Duck Dick Go edition, I found that Santa Monica PD uses both dash cams and body cams. So entertainment may be forthcoming if this provocateur does try to pursue it.
BTW, Santa Monica is half a galaxy away from hellholes like South Central. It's pretty yuppie-preppy-hipster.
You're getting a good bead on cousin nadin.
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According to Sanders, the arresting officer cuffed Palmer’s hands behind his back, swept his legs from under him and took him to the ground. While on the ground, Sanders said, a second officer used pepper spray on Palmer.
Interesting. I wonder how his partner felt about being sprayed as well unless he had one of those new fangled precision no splatter pepper spray canisters. Lie.