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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on April 27, 2015, 09:48:20 AM
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KingCharlemagne (3,667 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026570846
If Sanders enters the ring, the 2016 primary will get VERY interesting. I just
saw a story datelined yesterday that suggests Sanders is leaning toward entering and running as a Dem.
MSNBC reported that Sen. Sanders is leaning towards running for the Democratic nomination in 2016:
Sen. Bernie Sanders is only days away from making a decision on a 2016 run, and leaning towards yes, according to his top strategist.
“I think we’re coming to the critical moment of truth here. He’s now spent enough time traveling around the country talking to people and feels there is genuinely a large audience of people who are with him,†veteran Democratic strategist Tad Devine, who is advising Sanders, told msnbc.
A formal announcement of his candidacy is expected to occur later in May.
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/04/25/bernie-sanders-run-president.html (Emphasis in original)
Yeah... Bernie is thinking about giving it another go- but to do so He's have to join the Democrat party again.
At least the ultra-left wing crazy side of the [D]s are cheering.
KingCharlemagne (3,667 posts)
5. I would love to watch the debates in a head-to-head matchup between him and HRC. (But watch out for HRC encouraging a Warren candidacy as a stalking horse to divide the left.)
I personally would watch for Bernie to have a sudden death by natural causes...
daleanime (7,831 posts)
40. She [Hillary] would never do that...a Warren candidacy would be the end of chance for the White House and I believe she's aware of it.
Yeah...
Initech (48,086 posts)
3. Bernie Sanders is exactly who we need as president. More than ever. We don't need another Clinton, and we especially can't afford four more years of the BFEE ****ing things up. We need Bernie.
::)
KingCharlemagne (3,667 posts)
14. Assuming that Sanders does capture the nomination and wins the GE, how would he govern with a fascist Congress (assuming his coattails do not cause either chamber to switch hands)?
:thatsright:
aspirant (1,168 posts)
67. How about using Sherman Anti-Trust and break up the monopolies. Appointing an AG with guts to prosecute Wall Street, war criminals, police brutality, voters rights etc. Undo privatization and pay all govt employees a living wage, just to start.
Yes. The government worker. The porrest of the poor. GTFOOH.
Vinca (23,361 posts)
4. I'll definitely support Bernie in the NH primary.
procon (1,185 posts)
8. In April polling numbers, Sanders is a single digit. How do you think he can overcome that disadvantage and raise the millions -- or Billions! -- a presidential candidate needs?
treestar (56,136 posts)
54. He can't raise money Or his supporters would have to desert him. Because then he can be bought.
:o
arcane1 (28,929 posts)
59. Nobody has ever heard of him (yet), while Hillary has been famous for decades. Name-recognition goes a long way in polls like that, when non-candidates are included.
I'll happily donate to Sanders.
Famous in not a good way.
seabeyond (100,433 posts)
12. i think he will easily grab the young. they are desperate and sanders fits with them. he is like the professor that loves to think and listen to his students. the college kids love this type of professor and he hits on the veyr subjects they are so so so concerned and pissed about.
i think that will be an excellent and exciting demographic for him
and as i said else, the reality is, he will appease the white male. sexist, but our culture and our reality
i think he has a chance and i think it can be interesting.
Didn't they say this about Barry? Oh--- and he's white, so there's a plus. ::)
polichick (35,431 posts)
15. Sanders-Warren would be a complete game-changer. Hope the prez has pissed EW off...enough to make her team up with Sanders or run on her own.
Yeah... it would. be even more of a [R] landslide.
kentuck (73,245 posts)
36. We will need to organize...
The biggest challenge for Bernie is the "socialist" label. He will neef to convince the voters that his ideas are stronger than his opponents, regardless of Party label.
If you only had a communitee organizer... oh... wait...
KingCharlemagne (3,667 posts)
39. While I find myself philosophically aligned with him, I do have questions about how a "President Sanders" would be prepared to govern with a fascist congress. I think he should answer that question (as should HRC).
I am all for them calling the [R]s in congress FASCISTs on national TV.
blkmusclmachine (16,055 posts)
47. Good. Clinton needs a challenge, not a coronation.
KingCharlemagne (3,667 posts)
60. What is happening in America right now is proving Karl Marx correct beyond his wildest dreams. Jesus: 1% of the population controls 40% of the country's wealth and 10% controls 80% of the wealth. Even Adam Smith would probably find that state of affairs objectionable.
Lee-Lee (1,765 posts)
63. I'm torn. I love Sanders, and like Warren a lot. My fear is That if you have 2-3 great progressive choices on the ballot, then Hillary, the progressive voices end up divided between the 2-3 others and Hillary gets the nomination by having the progressives split thier votes- and centrist mediocrity comes out ahead.
KingCharlemagne (3,667 posts)
69. Well, that's politics, isn't it? I would assume that the strategists in HRC's campaign already have contingency plans to promote various leftist stalking horses so as to dilute and divide the progressive bloc. Sanders may instead be playing the role of Eugene McCarthy ca. 1968 when Gene demonstrated the then-inevitable LBJ's actual vulnerability, clearing the way for Robert F. Kennedy to enter the race (and LBJ to drop out).
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The DNC primary battle 2016! Which candidate can hide their socialist underpinnings the best.
:whatever:
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See Bernie.
See Bernie run.
Run, Bernie, run!
-Skin's Island really is inhabited by children.
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See Bernie.
See Bernie run.
Run, Bernie, run!
-Skin's Island really is inhabited by children.
:lmao: ...and on the first day of school I was barefooted. I bet that's why I'm a republican.
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I hope Sanders does run against Hiliary. The entertainment provided by the slap fights erupting at the DUmp would be comedy gold.
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I hope Sanders does run against Hiliary. The entertainment provided by the slap fights erupting at the DUmp would be comedy gold.
Even at his stoopiddest, Bernie ain't got the moxie to run. In the end, he will decide he doesn't want to be the next Mondale. if he would be lucky enough to carry his home state.
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Even at his stoopiddest, Bernie ain't got the moxie to run. In the end, he will decide he doesn't want to be the next Mondale. if he would be lucky enough to carry his home state.
Don't think that. He'd probably carry the PRNY, California, Massachusetts, Oregon, Washington State, and Illinois. Plus Vermont.
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Don't think that. He'd probably carry the PRNY, California, Massachusetts, Oregon, Washington State, and Illinois. Plus Vermont.
Depending on who wins the Republican nomination, Illinois isn't safe Democratic. Awfully early though.
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Depending on who wins the Republican nomination, Illinois isn't safe Democratic. Awfully early though.
Chicago would swing Illinois for Hillary.
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Chicago would swing Illinois for Hillary.
Probably. But I'm not sure about crazy uncle Bernie.
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Probably. But I'm not sure about crazy uncle Bernie.
I think Sanders or Warren would cause a lot of Chicagoans to stay home. Maybe even enough that the dead voters couldn't over come the loss.
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KingCharlemagne (3,667 posts)
60. What is happening in America right now is proving Karl Marx correct beyond his wildest dreams. Jesus: 1% of the population controls 40% of the country's wealth and 10% controls 80% of the wealth. Even Adam Smith would probably find that state of affairs objectionable.
Heh....
Do you infants realize you live in a country that, even Welfare Queens like you, are in the top 70 percent of people earners :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: on this earth?