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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: thundley4 on April 18, 2015, 09:17:02 AM
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Ken Burch (35,517 posts) Sat Apr 18, 2015, 12:14 AM
Our party leaders need to let go of the "they have nowhere else to go" attitude towards the base.
The Democratic Party DEMANDS that workers, the poor, and activists give its presidential ticket their votes-and yet, at the same time, refuses to accept that they owe those groups anything in exchange for that support(while believing, at the same time, that they owe everything to the big Wall Street donors who demand that the party leave the base out in the cold on economic, foreign policy, and budgetary issues.
This attitude can only lead to massive absentions from the polls by those groups, and thus can only guarantee a Republican re-take of the White House in 2016.
Yes, most Democratic presidential candidates(other than the frontrunner and Chafee)are going to be significantly better than whoever the GOP puts up. But those we ask to vote for the Democratic presidential ticket have the right, if nothing else, to expect that the party will take them seriously and treat them and their needs with respect.
One-way loyalty is not a sustainable way to run politics...at least for a party that wants to be the alternative to the GOP.
And at some point, the base, if it continues to be treated as the party treats it now, will FIND somewhere else to go.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026526010
Star Member JI7 (50,927 posts)
1. you are implying Hillary Clinton and Chafee will not be better than the Republican ?
and btw, the base supports Hillary Clinton . that's how she is leading in the polls. she has actual supporters who have been out there getting support for her.
cui bono (13,044 posts)
6. Unfortunately that's most likley because the party and its base has become centrist. DUmmie finds a clue.
And also because she has name recognition and because most people don't pay that close attention to politics so don't really know anything about TPP or her voting record or of any other possible candidates.
But the Dems are going to lose the left shortly if they keep telling us to STFU and describe us - as has been done here on DU - as all high and mighty, holier than thou, and telling us - as has been done here on DU - that we are "welcome" in the party but not to "control" it.
So the centrists want the left's vote, they just don't care about what we want.
NYC_SKP (66,491 posts)
9. What "base"? You mean low information voters who only go with name recognition?
IMHO, her "base" consists of the banks and the left-leaning 1%ers.
Add to that registered Dems who don't follow politics and just go with the name they know.
Add to that folks who are acting out of fear of losing to a Republican, who think only Clinton can pull it off.
That's a pretty sorry base.
Frank's good buddy, Skippy hits on the truth that we have known for years, even decades. Low info voters are the base of the Democrat Party. Kept in the dark and fed bullshit by the MSM.
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More like just freeloading losers than bonafide Communists, really.
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Show me once where a dumbocrat politician gave a shit about anyone other then those sending big checks.
I am not pretending Republicans are a whole lot different but we really would rather a politician act in ways that makes the government leave us alone not hold our hands from dawn to dusk.
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Frank's good buddy Skippy.....
You know, for me, this has been the most enjoyable part of watching this spectacle; the most authoritarian primitive on Skins's island getting a taste of his own medicine; Skippy insists he won't vote for her, but he will vote for her if the bosses order him to.
It's a sheer joy, a beautiful sight, to see a primitive hoisted by his own petard.
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You know, for me, this has been the most enjoyable part of watching this spectacle; the most authoritarian primitive on Skins's island getting a taste of his own medicine; Skippy insists he won't vote for her, but he will vote for her if the bosses order him to.
It's a sheer joy, a beautiful sight, to see a primitive hoisted by his own petard.
All of the DUmmies will vote for Shrillary if they vote at all.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026526010
Frank's good buddy, Skippy hits on the truth that we have known for years, even decades. Low info voters are the base of the Democrat Party. Kept in the dark and fed bullshit by the MSM.
Can't we just call them mushrooms ?