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Title: Why is Rolling Stone getting so much flack for that rape article
Post by: CC27 on April 06, 2015, 11:52:49 AM
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Star Member malaise (128,112 posts)

Why is Rolling Stone getting so much flack for that rape article


while Fox News lies are repeated by other networks and cable channels and never retracts or apologizes for LIES 24/7

Maybe because rolling stone is a left wing rag and lied to push an agenda like DUmmies do?
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Title: Re: Why is Rolling Stone getting so much flack for that rape article
Post by: ChuckJ on April 06, 2015, 12:12:21 PM
If FOX News lies 24/7 that's a lot of lies. A ton of lies. Why don't you list just 10 of the lies that they put out last week for us?

I'll suppose I'll wait on the list while I wait for Buzz to answer the question I politely asked multiple times.

When we are talking about the bakery we’re talking about someone providing or denying a service. Let’s just forget about the bakery and focus on providing or denying a service.

I claim to have been born right-wing just like a homosexual claims to have been born homosexual. Should DU be allowed to deny me a service based on my right-wingism? If so, why?
Title: Re: Why is Rolling Stone getting so much flack for that rape article
Post by: docstew on April 06, 2015, 12:15:39 PM
Maybe because there are, or should be, consequences of making false accusations, including defamation suits and loss of readership.

I'm personally waiting for the UVA chapter of Phi Kappa Psi, and/or national organization, to sue, considering they were accused of "ritualized rape", implying there has been a long string of them, and this ONE victim finally spoke out.

Rolling Stone could stop the damage in 3 simple steps, and probably avoid losing a lawsuit:
1) Make a sincere apology to those they FALSELY ACCUSED of a heinous crime.
2) Fire the author and editor responsible for that article. Even if the author had an agenda, the editor should be there to check that the homework was done, i.e. calling someone to confirm the event happened.
3) Announce a policy of two editors double-checking sources when there are criminal allegations being made in an article.
Title: Re: Why is Rolling Stone getting so much flack for that rape article
Post by: Bad Dog on April 06, 2015, 12:29:16 PM
Our problem here is that DUmmies and, liberals in general, see no problem with lying to get what they want but, they also know that conservatives value truthfulness.  So to have it both ways, they lie about pretty much everything (much like muzzies) and project their nasty habits on conservatives.  This seems to work very well on Rinos.
Title: Re: Why is Rolling Stone getting so much flack for that rape article
Post by: jukin on April 06, 2015, 01:04:17 PM
I see the point. The Michael Sheppard lie did so much damage with no repercussions, Why should RS be held to a higher standard? The MS lie got Thought Crimes institutionalized and ripped a huge chunk of The Constitution out.

All. On. A. Lie.
Title: Re: Why is Rolling Stone getting so much flack for that rape article
Post by: Carl on April 06, 2015, 01:48:33 PM
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Response to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 6, 2015, 10:09 AM

Star Member trumad (38,356 posts)
3. Because we Progressives live in a fact based world.

And when the facts are incorrect we will call it out every time.

Pretty simple in mho.

Now that is funny right there!
Title: Re: Why is Rolling Stone getting so much flack for that rape article
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on April 06, 2015, 01:55:50 PM
Our problem here is that DUmmies and, liberals in general, see no problem with lying to get what they want but, they also know that conservatives value truthfulness.  So to have it both ways, they lie about pretty much everything (much like muzzies) and project their nasty habits on conservatives.  This seems to work very well on Rinos.
They also know there will probably be no consequences for lying.
Title: Re: Why is Rolling Stone getting so much flack for that rape article
Post by: Bad Dog on April 06, 2015, 02:52:57 PM
They also know there will probably no consequences for lying.

Buzzy is a prime example.  He gets caught in lie after lie and he gets all butthurt when you don't take his word as gospel.
Title: Re: Why is Rolling Stone getting so much flack for that rape article
Post by: freedumb2003b on April 06, 2015, 03:26:14 PM
Maybe because there are, or should be, consequences of making false accusations, including defamation suits and loss of readership.

I'm personally waiting for the UVA chapter of Phi Kappa Psi, and/or national organization, to sue, considering they were accused of "ritualized rape", implying there has been a long string of them, and this ONE victim finally spoke out.

Rolling Stone could stop the damage in 3 simple steps, and probably avoid losing a lawsuit:
1) Make a sincere apology to those they FALSELY ACCUSED of a heinous crime.
2) Fire the author and editor responsible for that article. Even if the author had an agenda, the editor should be there to check that the homework was done, i.e. calling someone to confirm the event happened.
3) Announce a policy of two editors double-checking sources when there are criminal allegations being made in an article.

No matter: If I was UVA, the Frat, and any member thereof, I would SUE until the cows come home!  and then shut that ra down (like all pulp-based pubs it is destined to the trash heap anyway -- just accelerating the inevitable).
Title: Re: Why is Rolling Stone getting so much flack for that rape article
Post by: freedumb2003b on April 06, 2015, 03:27:29 PM
Buzzy is a prime example.  He gets caught in lie after lie and he gets all butthurt when you don't take his word as gospel.

Appeal To Authority (no matter how obscure) -- Rx-H for interwebz butt-hurt.
Title: Re: Why is Rolling Stone getting so much flack for that rape article
Post by: SVPete on April 06, 2015, 03:48:43 PM
Maybe the reason Libs & Progs can't get traction with all their claims of Fox News "lies" is because they aren't ......... lies.
Title: Re: Why is Rolling Stone getting so much flack for that rape article
Post by: DLR Pyro on April 06, 2015, 04:02:01 PM
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Star Member malaise (128,112 posts)

Why is Rolling Stone getting so much flack for that rape article


while Fox News lies are repeated by other networks and cable channels and never retracts or apologizes for LIES 24/7

can you list one, just one lie that Fox has told and has been repeated by other networks and cable channels?

I'll wait for your reply
Title: Re: Why is Rolling Stone getting so much flack for that rape article
Post by: wasp69 on April 06, 2015, 04:34:11 PM
For those wishing for a lawsuit, I give you the following:

http://twitchy.com/2015/04/06/awesome-phi-kappa-psi-fraternity-at-uva-is-suing-rolling-stone-magazine/
Title: Re: Why is Rolling Stone getting so much flack for that rape article
Post by: thundley4 on April 06, 2015, 04:40:22 PM
can you list one, just one lie that Fox has told and has been repeated by other networks and cable channels?

I'll wait for your reply

Every time I have seen some liberal claim to have caught Fox News lying, they were wrong. It was usually a case of Fox reporting a story that another news source had broken and gotten wrong. Fox corrects their stories when this happens instead of just ignoring it and carrying on like the liberals do.
Title: Re: Why is Rolling Stone getting so much flack for that rape article
Post by: freedumb2003b on April 06, 2015, 04:47:18 PM
For those wishing for a lawsuit, I give you the following:

http://twitchy.com/2015/04/06/awesome-phi-kappa-psi-fraternity-at-uva-is-suing-rolling-stone-magazine/

Nice
Title: Re: Why is Rolling Stone getting so much flack for that rape article
Post by: Bad Dog on April 06, 2015, 04:48:51 PM
For those wishing for a lawsuit, I give you the following:

http://twitchy.com/2015/04/06/awesome-phi-kappa-psi-fraternity-at-uva-is-suing-rolling-stone-magazine/

Since RS probably isn't rolling in cash assets, maybe they could start a gofundme or wishadupe page.  That worked well for that pizza place, didn't it?

I'd be nervous bringing suit as they might just hand over the keys and walk off, leaving you with their debts.
Title: Re: Why is Rolling Stone getting so much flack for that rape article
Post by: HawkHogan on April 06, 2015, 09:55:15 PM
I actually visited that frat house before.  I didn't go to the school, and I didn't belong to the frat, but everyone was welcoming and let my buddy and I stay and party late night.*

*I did not witness any gang rapings.
Title: Re: Why is Rolling Stone getting so much flack for that rape article
Post by: freedumb2003b on April 07, 2015, 01:48:25 AM
Since RS probably isn't rolling in cash assets, maybe they could start a gofundme or wishadupe page.  That worked well for that pizza place, didn't it?

I'd be nervous bringing suit as they might just hand over the keys and walk off, leaving you with their debts.

I assure you early Discovery includes the Balance Sheet -- and they might be able to reach into the assets of the individuals as Discovery only needs a localized nexus.

Courts do not award negative rewards.  If the litigant is underwater they are hat s called "judgment proof" -- nothing to award but they may be liquidated in the hands of a Marshall to see if there are liquid assets.  The creditors would get completely screwed.
Title: Re: Why is Rolling Stone getting so much flack for that rape article
Post by: obumazombie on April 07, 2015, 01:53:19 AM
Our problem here is that DUmmies and, liberals in general, see no problem with lying to get what they want but, they also know that conservatives value truthfulness.  So to have it both ways, they lie about pretty much everything (much like muzzies) and project their nasty habits on conservatives.  This seems to work very well on Rinos.

You mean like Harry Reid did on the floor of the Senate to Mitt Romney ?
Title: Re: Why is Rolling Stone getting so much flack for that rape article
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on April 07, 2015, 02:36:16 AM
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Star Member malaise (128,112 posts)

Why is Rolling Stone getting so much flack for that rape article


while Fox News lies are repeated by other networks and cable channels and never retracts or apologizes for LIES 24/7

Hmmmm.... found that exact same troll comment, very close to verbatim, at Breitbart.   

Ahhh shit, now I can't find it....
Title: Re: Why is Rolling Stone getting so much flack for that rape article
Post by: Mr Mannn on April 07, 2015, 02:38:12 AM

Rolling Stone could stop the damage in 3 simple steps, and probably avoid losing a lawsuit:
1) Make a sincere apology to those they FALSELY ACCUSED of a heinous crime.
This was not done. they apologized to readers, not to those who were falsely accused.
2) Fire the author and editor responsible for that article. Even if the author had an agenda, the editor should be there to check that the homework was done, i.e. calling someone to confirm the event happened.
this was not done. The editor and lying b!tch are still there despite breaking every rule of journalism. They said this was not worthy of anyone being fired.
3) Announce a policy of two editors double-checking sources when there are criminal allegations being made in an article.
Again, not done. RS is only sorry they got caught. you cannot expect liberals to police themselves.
my comments in red.
Title: Re: Why is Rolling Stone getting so much flack for that rape article
Post by: Movie buff- The Sequel on April 07, 2015, 07:00:01 AM
Out of all the branches of the liberal media, I have long considered Rolling Stone magazine to be easily the most repulsive. At least televised liberal news pundits make a vague attempt to be somewhat balanced in order to avoid alienating too many viewers and thus losing ratings. Rolling Stone's writers, especially the pitiful d- bag Matt Taibbi, have no such concerns, they gleefully revel in their massive hatred of all things conservative, all things Christian, and generally all things good or decent. At the same time, they portray drug dealers, Iraqi insurgents, and the Palin email hacker as wonderful heroes, and put the Boston Marathon Bomber on their cover looking like a rock star.

Maybe because rolling stone is a left wing rag and lied to push an agenda like DUmmies do?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026465267
The other main reason why is because if not us, then absolutely no one will raise issue with this blatant lie. Rolling Stone's general reader base certainly won't, since at least 96% of Rolling Stone's readers are brain- damaged twentysomethings who spend their every waking minute in a drug- induced haze (The magazine really ought to change its title to "Rolling Stoners" for that reason).
The worst thing is, not only did RS's owners refuse to fire the author or editor of the article (Even though doing so would be the standard, expected, responsible thing to do for any media publication that had even the slightest modicum of care for journalistic integrity or honor), but they said they won't even change their editing process at all in the wake of this scandal. In other words, they haven't learned a blessed thing from this, and it's just a matter of time before it happens again.
Title: Re: Why is Rolling Stone getting so much flack for that rape article
Post by: txradioguy on April 07, 2015, 07:03:21 AM
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Star Member malaise (128,112 posts)

Why is Rolling Stone getting so much flack for that rape article

You morons are sure in love with the whole "fake but accurate" meme aren't you.

Never mind that it was a complete lie....just as long as it furthers the agenda and the narrative.


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while Fox News lies are repeated by other networks and cable channels and never retracts or apologizes for LIES 24/7

Name one lie.  You've got a surrogate here in the form of Buzz Click...send them to him so he can have them refuted for all of you.