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Title: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Big Dog on April 04, 2015, 10:30:00 AM
Buzzy, you are trying to avoid a lot of inconvenient truth here at the Cave. Do you have the cojones to answer this question?

Given: A homosexual owns a custom cake making business in Topeka, Kansas . If Shirley Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church walked into his shop and ordered a cake decorated with an upside-down US flag and a cross dripping blood, and the words 'God Hates Fags', would that baker be obligated to make that cake?
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on April 04, 2015, 10:41:10 AM
Or, .........

https://www.youtube.com/embed/RgWIhYAtan4
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on April 04, 2015, 10:43:25 AM
Or even us.

The Phelps clan is not liked in the least in conservative circles (conservatives are the ones known as Patriot Riders keeping the Phelps from disrupting veteran funerals).

Should conservatives have the right to refuse service to the Phelps House of Inbred Hatred based solely on the religion of the Phelps...even though religion is a defined class in federal law (unlike faggotry, which is imposed by the judiciary).
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: BuzzClik on April 04, 2015, 11:00:09 AM
Or, .........

I answered this one on a previous thread.

No, the Muslim baker -- under laws in most states -- cannot discriminate against people for sexual orientation. They are subject to legal action.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: BuzzClik on April 04, 2015, 11:06:57 AM
Buzzy, you are trying to avoid a lot of inconvenient truth here at the Cave. Do you have the cojones to answer this question?

Given: A homosexual owns a custom cake making business in Topeka, Kansas . If Shirley Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church walked into his shop and ordered a cake decorated with an upside-down US flag and a cross dripping blood, and the words 'God Hates Fags', would that baker be obligated to make that cake?
Pretty weak, Big Dog. Maybe this should be in the Mind Numbing Stupidity forum. But, since you squeezed it out here, I'll answer:

The pizza parlor announced that they were going to take advantage of the new Indiana law and discriminate against gays when it came to providing services. Refusing to construct a cake that you describe doesn't fall under the same category of discrimination. Bakers are not obligated to put whatever level of obscenity on a cake a customer wants. Refusing to put "God Hates Fags" or the other sh*t you described is within the baker's rights.

There's my answer.

As for running away -- I'm still here. If you post something interesting (or dirt stupid), I might reply. Or not.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Big Dog on April 04, 2015, 11:17:38 AM
typical DUmmy bullshit

Typical DUmnyhood, Buzz. I asked you a question with a simple yes-or-no answer, and you blah-blah-blahed your way in a circle.

Let's try this again.  If Shirley Phelps walked into a homosexual-owned bakery and ordered a custom cake decorated with an upside-down US flag, a bloody cross, and the words 'God Hates Fags', would that baker be obligated to make and decorate that cake?

Yes, or no?
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: obumazombie on April 04, 2015, 11:23:44 AM
Try your best to focus, lib.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: BuzzClik on April 04, 2015, 11:27:30 AM
Typical DUmnyhood, Buzz. I asked you a question with a simple yes-or-no answer, and you blah-blah-blahed your way in a circle.

Let's try this again.  If Shirley Phelps walked into a homosexual-owned bakery and ordered a custom cake decorated with an upside-down US flag, a bloody cross, and the words 'God Hates Fags', would that baker be obligated to make and decorate that cake?

Yes, or no?
no
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Mary Ann on April 04, 2015, 11:29:19 AM
I answered this one on a previous thread.

No, the Muslim baker -- under laws in most states -- cannot discriminate against people for sexual orientation. They are subject to legal action.
But why aren't the Muslim bakers getting death threats from the liberal brownshirts? Why isn't some lesbian golf coach tweeting out an invitation to burn down their business? Haven't checked, but are there hate messages on their Facebook page?

Seems to me, it's only Christians that you people want to destroy. It's only Christianity that you would like to see changed to fit your views.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: ChuckJ on April 04, 2015, 11:34:56 AM
When we are talking about the bakery we’re talking about someone providing or denying a service. Let’s just forget about the bakery and focus on providing or denying a service.

I claim to have been born right-wing just like a homosexuals claims to have been born homosexual. Should DU be allowed to deny me a service based on my right-wingism? If so, why?
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: docstew on April 04, 2015, 12:26:20 PM
no

Why not? What is your reasoning for denial? Take into consideration that the WBC's "religious beliefs", repugnant as they are, are Constitutionally-protected. Are you saying that service providers have a right to refuse service if they find the service personally offensive?

Since you stated that the design of the cake would be obscene, let's change the scenario. It's just a regular cake, one that could be purchased at any particular supermarket with a bakery, but the WBC has come to THIS specific bakery due to the sexual orientation of the owner, in order to add insult to injury. Is the baker within their rights to refuse service?
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Carl on April 04, 2015, 12:37:52 PM
Pretty weak, Big Dog. Maybe this should be in the Mind Numbing Stupidity forum. But, since you squeezed it out here, I'll answer:

The pizza parlor announced that they were going to take advantage of the new Indiana law and discriminate against gays when it came to providing services. Refusing to construct a cake that you describe doesn't fall under the same category of discrimination. Bakers are not obligated to put whatever level of obscenity on a cake a customer wants. Refusing to put "God Hates Fags" or the other sh*t you described is within the baker's rights.

There's my answer.

As for running away -- I'm still here. If you post something interesting (or dirt stupid), I might reply. Or not.

No they didn`t,you are a ****ing liar.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Undies on April 04, 2015, 12:46:49 PM
No they didn`t,you are a ****ing liar.

Bha-ha-ha-ha..........That's like telling a dog he is ****ing furry.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: BuzzClik on April 04, 2015, 12:52:22 PM
No they didn`t,you are a ****ing liar.

Uh, yeah, they did. I provided the video of an interview and the transcription of the exact quote on another thread. Read my words carefully, Carl: they portray what was said with 100% accuracy.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: docstew on April 04, 2015, 01:00:47 PM
Pretty weak, Big Dog. Maybe this should be in the Mind Numbing Stupidity forum. But, since you squeezed it out here, I'll answer:

The pizza parlor announced that they were going to take advantage of the new Indiana law and discriminate against gays when it came to providing services. Refusing to construct a cake that you describe doesn't fall under the same category of discrimination. Bakers are not obligated to put whatever level of obscenity on a cake a customer wants. Refusing to put "God Hates Fags" or the other sh*t you described is within the baker's rights.

There's my answer.

As for running away -- I'm still here. If you post something interesting (or dirt stupid), I might reply. Or not.

The word "announced" implies that they intended to make an official policy change, something along the lines of posting signs in the door of "effective such and such date, we will no longer serve pizza to the gheys".

There was no announcement. They were targeted by this TV "reporter"/liberal activist (BIRM). You may dispute targeting, but by a quick google search, there are over 200 restaurants in South Bend, the home base of that TV station. I wouldn't expect a reporter from Raleigh to come to Fayetteville where I live for a story unless they were looking for a specific story. You shouldn't either. It's not a reasonable expectation. Therefore, this "reporter" went there looking for this response.

Words mean things, Buzz. When you learn that, you may start to hold your own against us.

BTW, still waiting on your response to the questions I asked. Are you scared to answer them? Or do you concede that your arguments are untenable?
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Skul on April 04, 2015, 01:21:10 PM
Uh, yeah, they did. I provided the video of an interview and the transcription of the exact quote on another thread. Read my words carefully, Carl: they portray what was said with 100% accuracy.
Again a lie.  Do stew beat me to the exposure.
It's a shame that you continue to attempt to deliberately distort the truth.
You're just a troll, buzzy. You're wildly stroking your little nubbin under the table, while pecking at the keyboard with the other hand.
We know you're trolling, DUmmie. We also know you are under the delusion that you're doing a fabulous job. We're deliberately feeding you buzzy. We have a camera under that table, and it's showing any visitors what a true jerkoff, you really are.
Please don't leave, the camera is still running.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: BuzzClik on April 04, 2015, 01:32:22 PM
The word "announced" implies that they intended to make an official policy change, something along the lines of posting signs in the door of "effective such and such date, we will no longer serve pizza to the gheys".

There was no announcement...
You don't like the word "announcement"? Fine, but they said what they said. Period.


BTW, still waiting on your response to the questions I asked. Are you scared to answer them? Or do you concede that your arguments are untenable?
I have no idea what questions you asked. I either missed them or ignored them. Repeat them here or tell me where to look, and I consider answering them.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Carl on April 04, 2015, 01:34:37 PM
Uh, yeah, they did. I provided the video of an interview and the transcription of the exact quote on another thread. Read my words carefully, Carl: they portray what was said with 100% accuracy.

The exact ambush/gotcha situation is well known fool.
They did not seek a camera to declare "Hallelujah,we will not serve the gays".
To represent what happened in the pizza place as anything different is an out and out lie.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Carl on April 04, 2015, 01:36:24 PM
You don't like the word "announcement"? Fine, but they said what they said. Period.

I have no idea what questions you asked. I either missed them or ignored them. Repeat them here or tell me where to look, and I consider answering them.

No asshole,you misrepresented what happened and declared a falsehood and were called on it.
That makes you a ****ing liar as I said.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Mr Mannn on April 04, 2015, 01:39:57 PM
No asshole,you misrepresented what happened and declared a falsehood and were called on it.
That makes you a ****ing liar as I said.
All DUmmies lie...all the time.
This is why we are better than them
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: BuzzClik on April 04, 2015, 01:54:41 PM
No asshole,you misrepresented what happened and declared a falsehood and were called on it.
That makes you a ****ing liar as I said.

Nope. I merely restated what the young woman said on camera, and nothing more. You created to different and incorrect context for my comments in an attempt to disprove me.

She said what she said. That is an indelible fact. She said that if gays came into her pizza place and asked them to sell them pizzas for a gay wedding, they would refuse. That's it. She said it, I quoted her.

There is NOTHING inaccurate in the way I quoted her.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Carl on April 04, 2015, 01:59:58 PM
Nope. I merely restated what the young woman said on camera, and nothing more. You created to different and incorrect context for my comments in an attempt to disprove me.

She said what she said. That is an indelible fact. She said that if gays came into her pizza place and asked them to sell them pizzas for a gay wedding, they would refuse. That's it. She said it, I quoted her.

There is NOTHING inaccurate in the way I quoted her.

You are not even too clever by half mutt.
You said she announced,that is far different then answering a set up,hypothetical question designed to be a "gotcha".

Even in this statement you lie as they were not asked if they would just randomly sell them but if they would provide a catering service.
You are so far in over empty head it is hilarious.  :rotf:
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Bad Dog on April 04, 2015, 02:02:12 PM
Nope. I merely restated what the young woman said on camera, and nothing more. You created to different and incorrect context for my comments in an attempt to disprove me.

She said what she said. That is an indelible fact. She said that if gays came into her pizza place and asked them to sell them pizzas for a gay wedding, they would refuse. That's it. She said it, I quoted her.

There is NOTHING inaccurate in the way I quoted her.

Partial (out of context) quote - accurate, characterization - inaccurate (actually a conscious lie).
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: BuzzClik on April 04, 2015, 02:03:04 PM
You are not even too clever by half mutt.
You said she announced,that is far different then answering a set up,hypothetical question designed to be a "gotcha".

Even in this statement you lie as they were not asked if they would just randomly sell them but if they would provide a catering service.
You are so far in over empty head it is hilarious.  :rotf:
Okay. I get it.

You're not interested in a discussion at any level.

Done and done.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Bad Dog on April 04, 2015, 02:09:36 PM
Buzzy, back when you voted for Regan (two times), were you a "Log Cabin" Republican?
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Skul on April 04, 2015, 02:10:32 PM
Like a moth to flames.
The camera continues to run.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Carl on April 04, 2015, 02:13:55 PM
Okay. I get it.

You're not interested in a discussion at any level.

Done and done.

Nice try to run away when you idiotically talk yourself into a corner.
Try to answer this then.


Did the pizza place provide a catering service...yes or no?

Did the question asked of them apply to a service they did not provide...yes or no?

Did they ever say they would refuse to sell a pizza to a person for any reason in the course of their normal business operations...yes or no?


Three simple questions,three simple answers,can you do it?
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Bad Dog on April 04, 2015, 02:21:34 PM
Buzzy, how do you feel about Ron Paul?
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Big Dog on April 04, 2015, 02:30:52 PM
no

There, that wasn't so difficult, was it?

You previously stated that you believe Christian business owners have no right to refuse service to anyone based on their (the Christians') moral beliefs. You were consistent in stating the same about Muslim businesses, at least Muslim bakeries.

Now, it is reasonable to conclude that the homosexual baker is morally opposed to the Westboro Baptist Church's religious beliefs. It is also reasonable to conclude that the Christian pizza people in Indiana are morally opposed to participating in a homosexual wedding (or wedding reception). 

So, why do you believe the homosexual's moral opposition is a valid reason to discriminate, but the Christians' is not?
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: BuzzClik on April 04, 2015, 02:33:09 PM
Buzzy, how do you feel about Ron Paul?
Interesting question.

I voted for Paul in 1988 because I was in a libertarian phase (still there in part), and he offered an alternative to Bush. I liked Paul's message at the time, but I've drifted further left since that time. Most of the libertarian candidates after Paul were a bit unhinged.

Paul's political views have wandered about over the years. He was outspoken against the invasion of Iraq in 2002, which was good, but the hard-core libertarian approach is not as appealing to me now as it once was. I admit that I lost track of him during the later years of his terms in the House.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Bad Dog on April 04, 2015, 02:42:49 PM
Interesting question.

I voted for Paul in 1988 because I was in a libertarian phase (still there in part), and he offered an alternative to Bush. I liked Paul's message at the time, but I've drifted further left since that time. Most of the libertarian candidates after Paul were a bit unhinged.

Paul's political views have wandered about over the years. He was outspoken against the invasion of Iraq in 2002, which was good, but the hard-core libertarian approach is not as appealing to me now as it once was. I admit that I lost track of him during the later years of his terms in the House.

Neckbeard!  Pats self on back.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Movie buff- The Sequel on April 04, 2015, 03:01:13 PM
I have no idea what questions you asked. I either missed them or ignored them. Repeat them here or tell me where to look, and I consider answering them.

Buzz, it was Docstew slightly amending the hypothetical question he asked you:
Let's say that the cake in question did not have any obscene or blatantly offensive content  on it, just a regular- looking cake, but someone from Westboro Baptist Church deliberately made the request from a homosexual- run bakery, as a way to add insult to injury? In that case, do you believe the baker would have the right to refuse service?
btw, I'm equally interested in how you'll answer this question.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Carl on April 04, 2015, 03:02:05 PM
Nice try to run away when you idiotically talk yourself into a corner.
Try to answer this then.


Did the pizza place provide a catering service...yes or no?

Did the question asked of them apply to a service they did not provide...yes or no?

Did they ever say they would refuse to sell a pizza to a person for any reason in the course of their normal business operations...yes or no?


Three simple questions,three simple answers,can you do it?

You responded on this thread which means you saw this...where are your discussion worthy yes or no answers?
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: BuzzClik on April 04, 2015, 03:10:49 PM
You previously stated that you believe Christian business owners have no right to refuse service to anyone based on their (the Christians') moral beliefs. You were consistent in stating the same about Muslim businesses, at least Muslim bakeries.

Now, it is reasonable to conclude that the homosexual baker is morally opposed to the Westboro Baptist Church's religious beliefs. It is also reasonable to conclude that the Christian pizza people in Indiana are morally opposed to participating in a homosexual wedding (or wedding reception). 

So, why do you believe the homosexual's moral opposition is a valid reason to discriminate, but the Christians' is not?
The gay baker is refusing to make a cake bearing a hateful slur. If the baker refused to bake the cake because he hates Baptists, that would be unacceptable. But, I'm guessing the same hypothetical baker would refuse to similarly decorate a cake ordered by Nazis or a cake ordered by Will Pitt saying, "F*ck you, Karl Rove, you f*cking f*ck." If he provided the Pitt/Rove cake and not the Nazi/Westboro cake, he'd be in trouble.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: HawkHogan on April 04, 2015, 03:24:16 PM
The gay baker is refusing to make a cake bearing a hateful slur. If the baker refused to bake the cake because he hates Baptists, that would be unacceptable. But, I'm guessing the same hypothetical baker would refuse to similarly decorate a cake ordered by Nazis or a cake ordered by Will Pitt saying, "F*ck you, Karl Rove, you f*cking f*ck." If he provided the Pitt/Rove cake and not the Nazi/Westboro cake, he'd be in trouble.

You claimed that you were once a libertarian but you think the government can compel businesses to provide services against their will. 

Quite the libertarian!
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Carl on April 04, 2015, 03:28:32 PM
The gay baker is refusing to make a cake bearing a hateful slur. If the baker refused to bake the cake because he hates Baptists, that would be unacceptable. But, I'm guessing the same hypothetical baker would refuse to similarly decorate a cake ordered by Nazis or a cake ordered by Will Pitt saying, "F*ck you, Karl Rove, you f*cking f*ck." If he provided the Pitt/Rove cake and not the Nazi/Westboro cake, he'd be in trouble.

So leftists would then make false claims about his business to try to shut him down?
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Carl on April 04, 2015, 03:29:56 PM
Why can`t you answer my yes or no questions above?

Are you unable to honestly?
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Big Dog on April 04, 2015, 03:37:40 PM
The gay baker is refusing to make a cake bearing a hateful slur. If the baker refused to bake the cake because he hates Baptists, that would be unacceptable. But, I'm guessing the same hypothetical baker would refuse to similarly decorate a cake ordered by Nazis or a cake ordered by Will Pitt saying, "F*ck you, Karl Rove, you f*cking f*ck." If he provided the Pitt/Rove cake and not the Nazi/Westboro cake, he'd be in trouble.

So you believe it is not the actions of the business owner which are "unacceptable", it is his motive. As long as he can justify his discrimination to your satisfaction, it's OK. Good for me, bad for thee, right?

Note: The baker is not hypothetical, Buzz. There is a homosexual cake baker in Topeka- I know him. To my knowledge, Shirley Phelps Roper (whom I have a history with; which you would already know if you had done some "opposition research"- your friend Pitt can help you with that, BTW) has not demanded a cake from his business.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Big Dog on April 04, 2015, 03:39:52 PM
You claimed that you were once a libertarian but you think the government can compel businesses to provide services against their will. 

Quite the libertarian!

Yeah, I call double bullshit on that one. I guess when ol' Buzz "drifted to the left", to use his words, he fell off the edge of the free world.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: ChuckJ on April 04, 2015, 03:47:10 PM
I'm beginning to wonder if Buzz has some sort of S&M fetish because I've treated him nothing but politely, and I don't think he's answered my question.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: BuzzClik on April 04, 2015, 03:47:37 PM
So you believe it is not the actions of the business owner which are "unacceptable", it is his motive. As long as he can justify his discrimination to your satisfaction, it's OK. Good for me, bad for thee, right?
Certain forms of discrimination are acceptable under the law; "no shirt, no shoes, no service", for example. You cannot, however, discriminate against entire groups of people (race, color, religion, sexual orientation).


...which you would already know if you had done some "opposition research"- your friend Pitt can help you with that...
First, I do not consider you the opposition (life is too short), and I'm too lazy to do such research (ditto). Second, Will Pitt is a dick. I've told him so many times. I'm pretty sure the feeling is mutual.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Carl on April 04, 2015, 03:50:38 PM
Since you won`t answer my first question and in light of you being proven a liar regarding the pizza place video,maybe you can deal with similar hypotheticals.

Let`s say you run a graphic design business (and just fired Atman McGrath) and three people enter your building.

The first one says they are an atheist and they want 500 posters saying "God is an evil myth"

The second one says that they are a Muslim and they want 750 posters saying "Christians and Jews are the enemy of peace"

The third one says that they are a devout Christian and they want 500 posters saying "Abortion and homosexuality are a perversion"


What do you do buzzy?
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Big Dog on April 04, 2015, 04:09:31 PM
Certain forms of discrimination are acceptable under the law; "no shirt, no shoes, no service", for example. You cannot, however, discriminate against entire groups of people (race, color, religion, sexual orientation).

Do you believe "law" = "morality"?  Does the State define right and wrong for you?

And you have a Las Vegas Leviathan sized hole in your argument. Do you know what it is?

Quote
First, I do not consider you the opposition (life is too short), and I'm too lazy to do such research (ditto). Second, Will Pitt is a dick. I've told him so many times. I'm pretty sure the feeling is mutual.

There may be hope for you yet.

If you had looked before you leaped, you would have learned that I was one of the founding members of the Patriot Guard in Kansas, and was the National Captain (like the national commander of the American Legion or the VFW) from 2007-2008.

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/conscave/Interview03_zpsshcyjz0p.jpg)
CNN interview, 2008

I have a long history with the Westboro Baptist Church.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: obumazombie on April 04, 2015, 04:13:54 PM
Certain forms of discrimination are acceptable under the law; "no shirt, no shoes, no service", for example. You cannot, however, discriminate against entire groups of people (race, color, religion, sexual orientation).

First, I do not consider you the opposition (life is too short), and I'm too lazy to do such research (ditto). Second, Will Pitt is a dick. I've told him so many times. I'm pretty sure the feeling is mutual.

One aspect of libs that conservatives (and libertarians hate) is you won't admit when you are wrong, and you won't admit when you have been caught red handed in a lie.
You denying that you're lying when you were caught red handed does not persuade a conservative to your assertions of innocence.
That only works on your fellow libs.
We call it grubering.

I have already told you there is no such thing as sexual orientation.
There is only sexual preference.
It is the act that makes the deviant.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: BuzzClik on April 04, 2015, 04:34:07 PM
If you had looked before you leaped, you would have learned that I was one of the founding members of the Patriot Guard in Kansas, and was the National Captain (like the national commander of the American Legion or the VFW) from 2007-2008.
Whoa. Dude, you are a hero.

(http://www.sportbikes.net/forums/images/smilies/salute.gif)
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: thundley4 on April 04, 2015, 04:35:06 PM
Quote
Quote from: BuzzClik on Today at 02:47:37 PM
Certain forms of discrimination are acceptable under the law; "no shirt, no shoes, no service", for example. You cannot, however, discriminate against entire groups of people (race, color, religion, sexual orientation).

Funny thing is though, when communities or businesses have laws or rules against wearing your pants down to your knees, the left starts screaming about racism, even though the rules and laws apply to all people.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 04, 2015, 04:40:56 PM
I'm beginning to wonder if Buzz has some sort of S&M fetish because I've treated him nothing but politely, and I don't think he's answered my question.

I am thinking that too.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Big Dog on April 04, 2015, 04:44:39 PM
Whoa. Dude, you are a hero.

(http://www.sportbikes.net/forums/images/smilies/salute.gif)

No, I am not.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: obumazombie on April 04, 2015, 04:49:18 PM
No, I am not.

You know what ?
I really think Buzzy is mixing up Big Dog and Bad Dog.
Just another good example of how loose of a grip libs have on reality.


edit - g
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: BuzzClik on April 04, 2015, 04:51:21 PM
I am thinking that too.
I don't recall your question. On this thread? Another? Please direct me to your question or, maybe, just re-ask.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: BuzzClik on April 04, 2015, 04:52:47 PM
No, I am not.
Well, okay. You and yours figured out how to minimize the disruption by these awful people in a quiet way that still honored those we lost, and that was awesome. Maybe not heroic to you, but damn. Just damn.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: ChuckJ on April 04, 2015, 05:01:08 PM
I don't recall your question. On this thread? Another? Please direct me to your question or, maybe, just re-ask.

When we are talking about the bakery we’re talking about someone providing or denying a service. Let’s just forget about the bakery and focus on providing or denying a service.

I claim to have been born right-wing just like a homosexual claims to have been born homosexual. Should DU be allowed to deny me a service based on my right-wingism? If so, why?
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Carl on April 04, 2015, 05:21:57 PM
I don't recall your question. On this thread? Another? Please direct me to your question or, maybe, just re-ask.

And now the leftist obtuse game.
You seem really short of intelligent thought buzzy,you will do yourself well to answer questions rather then ignore them.
Or are you just too stupid?
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Bad Dog on April 04, 2015, 05:50:11 PM
You know what ?
I really think Buzzy is mixing up Big Dog and Bad Dog.
Just another good example of how loose of a grip libs have on reality.


edit - g

No chance.  I an urbane strikingly handsome man about town.  And, Buzzy has acknowledged I am the most intelligent member of this board.  Big Dog, on the other hand, is a big dog......a big...dog.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Big Dog on April 04, 2015, 05:54:35 PM
No chance.  I an urbane strikingly handsome man about town.  And, Buzzy has acknowledged I am the most intelligent member of this board.  Big Dog, on the other hand, is a big dog......a big...dog.

That's right, and remember that my dear, sweet Sue called me a Bull Mastiff!
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Bad Dog on April 04, 2015, 05:58:15 PM
That's right, and remember that my dear, sweet Sue called me a Bull Mastiff!

Yes, things were getting pretty steamy in that thread.  Almost told you two to get a room.
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: Big Dog on April 04, 2015, 06:05:52 PM
Yes, things were getting pretty steamy in that thread.  Almost told you two to get a room.

 :whistling:

 :fuelfire:
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: docstew on April 04, 2015, 11:54:14 PM
I have no idea what questions you asked. I either missed them or ignored them. Repeat them here or tell me where to look, and I consider answering them.

Here is the link to them. Looking forward to your answer.

http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=101619.msg1278143#msg1278143 (http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=101619.msg1278143#msg1278143)
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: txradioguy on April 05, 2015, 05:24:10 AM
I answered this one on a previous thread.

No, the Muslim baker -- under laws in most states -- cannot discriminate against people for sexual orientation. They are subject to legal action.
And yet they do discriminate against gays and nothing is done or said and the professional outrage crowd...you included...remain suspiciously silent.

Why is that?
Title: Re: Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.
Post by: txradioguy on April 05, 2015, 05:27:26 AM
 Buzz why is denying the right to service to a gay any different that a business putting up a sign saying "No shoes no shirt no service"? Or a restraunt saying "No pets allowed"?