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Title: Blagojevich: Chicago May Need National Guard Help
Post by: TheSarge on July 17, 2008, 05:53:57 AM
CHICAGO -- As Governor Rod Blagojevich on Wednesday signed a new law that will put in place tougher penalties for selling guns to minors, he also announced he's got a new idea to help combat the violence that Chicago is experience: he's talking to the Illinois State Police and the National Guard to see if they could help.

"Violent crime in the city of Chicago is out of control," Blagojevich said at the bill signing ceremony. "I'm offering resources of the state to the city to work in a constructive way with Mayor Daley to do everything we can possibly do to help stop this violence," said the governor.
The summer of 2008 will be remembered as especially violent. Blagojevich said there's been a child shot nearly every day since June 26. Bringing in state troopers -- even National Guard helicopters to high-crime areas -- is still very much in the planning stages.

"It might be able to free up some resources that the Chicago police uses for capital needs, to be able, to maybe to, hire more police officers, or possibly ask some to come out of retirement, to put them into these violent zones, hot zones, where, clearly, I think, part of the challenge is that gangbangers outnumber police officers five to one," Blagojevich said.

http://www.nbc5.com/news/16901117/detail.html
Title: Re: Blagojevich: Chicago May Need National Guard Help
Post by: docstew on July 17, 2008, 06:07:48 AM
two words: posse comitatus
Title: Re: Blagojevich: Chicago May Need National Guard Help
Post by: JohnnyReb on July 17, 2008, 06:48:25 AM
two words: posse comitatus

Well, I got one word, "JAIL".

How much you want to bet that most all their crime problem is caused by joo-V-niles with a rap sheet longer than both my arms.
Title: Re: Blagojevich: Chicago May Need National Guard Help
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on July 17, 2008, 08:22:41 AM
If by "Child" he means 15-year-old street thug hoodlum, maybe so.  He can use the Guard for it as long as they're on his dime as Governor, not the Federal one, and avoid the posse comitatus issue.  Of course if he does, it's going to eventually result either in some gang members getting shot and all the "Police state/poor little Ja'ama'a'al" news coverage, or some Guardsman getting his ass beat to a pulp by gangstas looking for a free M16 or SAW.
Title: Re: Blagojevich: Chicago May Need National Guard Help
Post by: CG6468 on July 17, 2008, 09:22:29 AM
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The federal courts have had several opportunities to define what behavior by military personnel in support of civilian law enforcement is permissible under the act. The test applied by the courts has been to determine whether the role of military personnel in the law enforcement operation was “passive” or “active.” Active participation in civilian law enforcement, such as making arrests, is deemed a violation of the act, while taking a passive supporting role is not.[7] Passive support has often taken the form of logistical support to civilian police agencies. Recognizing that the military possesses unique equipment and uniquely trained personnel, the courts have held that providing supplies, equipment, training, facilities, and certain types of intelligence information does not violate the act. Military personnel may also be involved in planning law enforcement operations, as long as the actual arrest of suspects and seizure of evidence is carried out by civilian law enforcement personnel.[8]

http://www.homelandsecurity.org/journal/articles/Trebilcock.htm (http://www.homelandsecurity.org/journal/articles/Trebilcock.htm)
Title: Re: Blagojevich: Chicago May Need National Guard Help
Post by: Peter3_1 on July 17, 2008, 09:31:19 AM
NYC's Mayor Rudy managed with foot pTROL, COMMUNITY PATROLLING,  extednsive undercover work, zero drug tollerance, long prison terms and zoning changes with no "grandfathering".  Think Chi should try that first?
Title: Re: Blagojevich: Chicago May Need National Guard Help
Post by: EastFacingNorth on July 17, 2008, 10:01:07 AM
If by "Child" he means 15-year-old street thug hoodlum, maybe so.  He can use the Guard for it as long as they're on his dime as Governor, not the Federal one, and avoid the posse comitatus issue.  Of course if he does, it's going to eventually result either in some gang members getting shot and all the "Police state/poor little Ja'ama'a'al" news coverage, or some Guardsman getting his ass beat to a pulp by gangstas looking for a free M16 or SAW.

Child in this context likely means anyone under the age of 18, or possibly even 21.
Title: Re: Blagojevich: Chicago May Need National Guard Help
Post by: Chris_ on July 17, 2008, 10:15:40 AM
two words: posse comitatus
..

(http://www.dougmacaulay.com/kingspud/photos/gdsprdln.jpg)

Did you just call him a "***** Communist"?
Title: Re: Blagojevich: Chicago May Need National Guard Help
Post by: PatriotGame on July 17, 2008, 02:02:24 PM
two words: posse comitatus
..

(http://www.dougmacaulay.com/kingspud/photos/gdsprdln.jpg)

Did you just call him a "***** Communist"?

Looks to me that shoe fits perfectly!
H5!
Title: Re: Blagojevich: Chicago May Need National Guard Help
Post by: PatriotGame on July 17, 2008, 02:03:56 PM
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CHICAGO -- As Governor Rod Blagojevich on Wednesday signed a new law that will put in place tougher penalties for selling guns to minors, he also announced he's got a new idea to help combat the violence that Chicago is experience: he's talking to the Illinois State Police and the National Guard to see if they could help.

"Violent crime in the city of Chicago is out of control," Blagojevich said at the bill signing ceremony. "I'm offering resources of the state to the city to work in a constructive way with Mayor Daley to do everything we can possibly do to help stop this violence," said the governor.
The summer of 2008 will be remembered as especially violent. Blagojevich said there's been a child shot nearly every day since June 26. Bringing in state troopers -- even National Guard helicopters to high-crime areas -- is still very much in the planning stages.

Butt...butt...butt...in the village utopia of liberal land this doesn't naturally happen!
What evil rethug could be behind this? Maybeeee *?
Title: Re: Blagojevich: Chicago May Need National Guard Help
Post by: Airwolf on July 17, 2008, 04:44:35 PM
What ? It's not Bush putting troops in the street!!!!! . Now he has the Democrats doing his bidding?(DU mode off)
Title: Re: Blagojevich: Chicago May Need National Guard Help
Post by: JohnnyReb on July 17, 2008, 05:42:44 PM
Who's the facist party now DUmmies.
Title: Re: Blagojevich: Chicago May Need National Guard Help
Post by: TheSarge on July 17, 2008, 05:50:28 PM
Who's the facist party now DUmmies.

The same party we ALL know it is....only the DUmmies refuse to see the truth.
Title: Re: Blagojevich: Chicago May Need National Guard Help
Post by: Chris_ on July 17, 2008, 11:31:15 PM
If this, and by the way, New Orleans, are how Democrats run cities, how can anyone want them running the country?
Title: Re: Blagojevich: Chicago May Need National Guard Help
Post by: djones520 on July 17, 2008, 11:34:05 PM
If this, and by the way, New Orleans, are how Democrats run cities, how can anyone want them running the country?

(http://www.coverups.com/scans/waco2.jpg)

Thats what happens when they run countries.
Title: Re: Blagojevich: Chicago May Need National Guard Help
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on July 18, 2008, 12:48:55 AM
On edit - Chicago is a mess of a city.....  :banghead:
Title: Re: Blagojevich: Chicago May Need National Guard Help
Post by: Randy on July 18, 2008, 11:38:37 AM
Nope, gotta call  :bs: on this one. There's no way with the strict gun control laws in effect in Shitcago for there to be such a grave emergency.
Title: Re: Blagojevich: Chicago May Need National Guard Help
Post by: Chris_ on July 18, 2008, 11:42:51 AM
Hey when Hussien loses the election, his "supporters" in Chitown are going to burn the place to the ground.

And probably get mowed down by the hundreds by the Illinois National Guard.  Sounds like a win-win to me.