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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on March 27, 2015, 11:14:19 AM
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UCmeNdc (1,629 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251400608
Ted Cruz is Canadian
Cruz’s official Canadian birth certificate, as posted by the Dallas Morning News, shows that Rafael Edward Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta, on December 22, 1970. Oddly, however, the birth was not registered until December 31, leaving an unexplained gap of nine days. But where was baby Ted over Christmas, an astute birther might ask. Donald Trump could build a casino in a hole that size. His mother would have to go to the American Embassy and file for his American citizenship. Where are those papers?
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BAPhill (180 posts)
1. CRBA/Consular Report of Birth Abroad
Both of my kids were born out of the country. A CRBA is what the Embassy issued me after I processed the documents.
It, effectively, is a birth certificate.
That won't last long.
UCmeNdc (1,629 posts)
3. This is exactly the point of questioning Ted Cruz's citizenship......When President Obama's proof was presented over and over again, something was always questioned. By Hillary
Ted Cruz's path is more strange but FOX News accepts all explanations with a "nothing to see here folks" attitude.
Maybe it's because there is nothing to see here...
Buzz Clik (30,990 posts)
6. Just stop. Seriously.
Maybe this is some sort of irony on your part, but stop.
No No... do carry on!
awake (997 posts)
11. There are still unanswered questions around Ted's citizenship
1. All U.S. citizens are required to file Tax retunes no mater where they live were they filed by Ted's mom while she lived in Canada.
2. When did Ted receive conformation of his U.S. citizenship, just having one U.S. citizen as a parent does not automatically make someone a U.S. citizen, forms must be filled out and filed.
To give Ted a pass on these questions will not help, it may well turn out that every thing is in order but if all of the appropriate documentation is not available we must assume that Ted entered this country as a undocumented alien. All too often Democrats are afraid to put hard questions to Republicans and there actions, it is time that we hit hard with question and not fall back on "nothing to see hear move on". With all of the shit storm that will be coming at our candidate we need to raise question about anything we can of candidates on there side.
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whopis01 (1,829 posts)
9. You are incorrect
The is no requirement to file anything with the embassy. Citizenship is acquired at birth in such a case.
http://travel.state.gov/content/travel/english/legal-considerations/us-citizenship-laws-policies/citizenship-child-born-abroad.html
Spitfire of ATJ (20,693 posts)
12. Birthers don't CARE....
He's WHITE.
He is White Hispanic...
tavalon (27,249 posts)
17. Funny thing is......He's not, actually. He just looks white. He's a mixture, just like that guy who ran/is running the White House, right now.
cali (98,041 posts)
45. ****. I really dislike this stupid shit.
:-)
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UCmeNdc (1,629 posts)
3. This is exactly the point of questioning Ted Cruz's citizenship......When President Obama's proof was presented over and over again, something was always questioned.
There was also some questions as to Obamamama's age and time in the US when she gave birth.
But all that aside, I don't like Obama because he doesn't like the US or any of its citizens.
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Mrs. SVPete was born outside of the US, had a birth certificate from that country (which she later had to have translated for some government purpose), but was a US citizen from birth. Because her parents were US citizens.
I guess DU-folk don't follow the skews. Ted Cruz renounced any claim he might have had to Canadian citizenship many months (years?) ago. not that facts matter in their world of Prog-fantasy.
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Mrs. SVPete was born outside of the US, had a birth certificate from that country (which she later had to have translated for some government purpose), but was a US citizen from birth. Because her parents were US citizens.
I guess DU-folk don't follow the skews. Ted Cruz renounced any claim he might have had to Canadian citizenship many months (years?) ago. not that facts matter in their world of Prog-fantasy.
I think he just renounced his Canadian Citizenship last month.
ETA:
I was wrong, it was last June, but it was in the news again last month.
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Mrs. SVPete was born outside of the US, had a birth certificate from that country (which she later had to have translated for some government purpose), but was a US citizen from birth. Because her parents were US citizens.
I guess DU-folk don't follow the skews. Ted Cruz renounced any claim he might have had to Canadian citizenship many months (years?) ago. not that facts matter in their world of Prog-fantasy.
My "X" wife was born in Germany in 1947 to a U.S. serviceman and his English wife. She had German citizenship and British citizenship but not U.S. citizenship. Over the years as her family moved about all over the world due to her dads service, there were problems. She sometimes had to be left behind with friends until her paper work was worked out. We were married when she finally got U.S. citizenship.
DUmmies should quit fussing about Cruz's citizenship because citizenship doesn't mean anything any more, Obama has set the precedent.
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Hilary was the first birther Dummies. And Trump is/was a Democrat. He just can't stand Obama because Obama epitomizes awfulness.
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They durk ur dur.
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I'm all for any future and the current president being required to release birth info, college entrance applications, college transcripts, and etc. to the public.
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I'm all for any future and the current president being required to release birth info, college entrance applications, college transcripts, and etc. to the public.
Required? I can't find that in the Constitution.
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Required? I can't find that in the Constitution.
That's because it's not in the Constitution, but it's never stopped the DUmp and their ilk before. My thoughts are that if they want info on Cruz or any other candidate it should be made readily available AFTER the current holder of the office does the same.
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Required? I can't find that in the Constitution.
Being required to release birth info most certainly is in the Constitution. It's the basis for both requirements: age and natural-born status.
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Being required to release birth info most certainly is in the Constitution. It's the basis for both requirements: age and natural-born status.
I think Big Dog was probably talking about the college stuff that I mentioned.
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Being required to release birth info most certainly is in the Constitution. It's the basis for both requirements: age and natural-born status.
Doc,
Please be so kind as to cite the section of the Constitution which requires a candidate for office to release his 'birth info' to the public, and the method by which said 'info' must be released.
I think Big Dog was probably talking about the college stuff that I mentioned.
You are correct, sir. The Constitution does not require it for Presidential eligibility, and the 4th Amendment specifically protects a person's papers.
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Doc,
Please be so kind as to cite the section of the Constitution which requires a candidate for office to release his 'birth info' to the public, and the method by which said 'info' must be released.
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
ARTICLE II, SECTION 1, CLAUSE 5
That right there can be construed to provide a birth certificate. Any government agency that requires proof of age and where you were born require a birth certificate. I had to provide mine when I got my first driver's license and also when I joined the Navy.
The federal government literally changed the name on my certificate of birth in the official records.
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That right there can be construed to provide a birth certificate. Any government agency that requires proof of age and where you were born require a birth certificate. I had to provide mine when I got my first driver's license and also when I joined the Navy.
The federal government literally changed the name on my certificate of birth in the official records.
I am familiar with your citation :fuelfire:
It says nothing about releasing information to the public as a precondition to eligibility. There is a legal process to question the eligibility of a nominee, and it does not involve releasing 'birth info' to the public.
You, and I, provided birth certificates for driver licenses and enlistment because it was required by state law or Federal law or regulation. Neither of us were required to make iur information public.
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Response to UCmeNdc (Original post)Thu Mar 26, 2015, 10:41 AM
cascadiance (15,984 posts)
27. Perhaps we should encourage Jennifer Granholm to run in the primaries...
... to see if Republican jerks take the bait of questioning her eligibility to be president, and if they do, then ask them why they only support Canadians running for president if they are Republican!
Thanks for the warning, DUmmy. I might have fallen into your diabolical trap.
What a bunch of idiots.