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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: I_B_Perky on March 21, 2015, 11:41:10 PM
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Oh my!!!! The big guy finally gets some love from the dump!!!
The link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141045632 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141045632)
The OP:
Omaha Steve (48,408 posts)
Train cars hauling methanol derail in central Texas
Source: AP
VALLEY MILLS, Texas (AP) -- Texas authorities are evacuating homes after a dozen train cars derailed near Valley Mills, including five tanker cars carrying methanol.
Department of Public Safety spokesman Trooper D.L. Wilson says no injuries or fires have been reported from the Saturday evening accident. He says one or two of the methanol-hauling tanks have small leaks.
Wilson says that as a precaution, about 10 homes within a thousand feet of the derailment have been evacuated.
FULL short breaking story at link.
Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/T/TX_TRAIL_DERAILMENT_TEXAS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
So has the dying big guy finally hit on the method to get replies? Tune in next week for a new episode of: OS Trolls for Dump Love
I'll just put the 6 replies en masse:
TexasTowelie (12,648 posts)
1. Located to the northwest of Waco on Highway 6
Bosque County sheriff’s officers and Texas Department of Public Safety troopers were investigating the derailment of 12 rail cars reported about 5 p.m. two miles north of Valley Mills.
They had blocked off a a 1,000-foot area around the derailed train and evacuated some residences by about 6 p.m. as they waited for hazardous material teams to arrive and assess the situation, said DPS Senior Trooper D.L. Wilson. He said five of the cars were tankers possibly carrying methanol, a fuel product, and the other seven were carrying pipe.
No injuries or leaks were immediately reported.
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“We might have to close the highway, but won’t know until we investigate further,†he said shortly after 6 p.m.
http://www.wacotrib.com/news/train-derails-in-bosque-county-creates-haz-mat-situation/article_791ba0ae-64b2-5a54-9c9b-90dfce0a0335.html
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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 08:48 PM
Star Member vt_native (370 posts)
2. A train derailed in Essex Junction, VT.
It was carrying liqueified propane.
Fortunately, it did not explode.
http://www.wcax.com/story/28279870/train-derailment-snarls-traffic-in-essex-jct
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Response to vt_native (Reply #2)
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 08:55 PM
Star Member Omaha Steve (48,408 posts)
3. I doubt it is natural gas
I wouldn't have known without this story.
From an LBN story Thursday: http://www.omaha.com/money/railroads/u-p-aims-to-be-first-railroad-to-haul-liquefied/article_ea761863-bd80-511d-8f87-e60245daa492.html
POSTED: THURSDAY, MARCH 19, 2015 1:00 AM
By Russell Hubbard / World-Herald staff writer
Union Pacific Railroad has applied for permission to haul liquefied natural gas, which would add another combustible cargo to a U.S. rail network already being criticized for transporting ethanol and crude oil through populated areas.
The Omaha-based railroad said the application for a permit from the Federal Railroad Administration is in response to a request for liquefied natural gas transportation from an existing customer. Union Pacific operates 32,000 miles of track in the western United States, which is home to many natural gas production and storage installations.
If Union Pacific is granted the permit, it would be a first. The Association of American Railroads said none of the six other Class I freight railroads are hauling liquefied natural gas.
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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 09:00 PM
Cryptoad (2,427 posts)
4. Sure seems like derailments are becoming more and more common place! nt
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Response to Cryptoad (Reply #4)
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 09:37 PM
Igel (21,305 posts)
5. Non-random samples.
They happen.
But if it's an isolated incident, it's not national news. It happens in VT, a month later it happens in TX, a month later in WY.
Once it's established that it's something Worth Noticing, then every derailment of everything gets reported. Memory serves to remember what's important and relevant, so you then remember "10 derailments" and that 3 had petroleum products, and your mind says, "lots of derailments with petroleum products." The number "10" may be lost; the number "3" will be lost.
It's the same with plane crashes. If there's a plane crash, for a while we hear about every plane incident in the entire country. A two-seater crashes, it's a plane crash. And the frequency of plane crashes increases, as far as we remember.
Even worse is when the frequency does increase. To some extent the occurrence is random. Random doesn't mean "evenly distributed." It's like flipping a coin. Do it 1000 times it's very close to 50% heads and 50% tails. But it would be damned strange if it alternated heads and tails. Sometimes you get a number of heads in a row; sometimes a number of tails in a row.
Derailments probably have increased a bit. The increased petroleum product shipments have actually increased rail traffic. But it's hit a ceiling in some areas, even as it increases a bit elsewhere--a number of rail corridors are maxed out. What has happened is that more shipments include petroleum products; and those are more likely, given the politics of petroleum production and shipment in the US, to attract media attention. Which gets us back to my third paragraph.
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Response to Cryptoad (Reply #4)
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 09:42 PM
Ilsa (35,677 posts)
6. I would imagine the KXL pipeline creeps like it.
They believe it makes pipelines look safer.
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Response to Cryptoad (Reply #4)Sat Mar 21, 2015, 09:42 PM
Ilsa (35,677 posts)
6. I would imagine the KXL pipeline creeps like it.
They believe it makes pipelines look safer.
For good reason.
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Finally ! OS gets more than Zero replies.
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For good reason.
Exactly. That oil goes right down I-787 in Albany, with excess tank cars (probably loaded), put along the I-787 interchange with I-90. A pipeline has been proposed to bring the stuff down from Canada--going right along the same route.
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Response to Cryptoad (Reply #4)
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 09:42 PM
Ilsa (35,677 posts)
6. I would imagine the KXL pipeline creeps like it.
They believe it makes pipelines look safer.
Well, pipelines are safer.
It never ceases to surprise me how readily - or even eagerly - DU-folk resort to conspiracy-theory: it's like a zero-thought involuntary reflex.
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10 cc's of Thorazine brings the bearded one home ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026399565
<Omaha Steve>
With my neck and shoulder problems I'll never be able to put on a red suit again. Helping others in their new situation might just fill that void.
OS
</Omaha Steve>
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With my neck and shoulder problems I'll never be able to put on a red suit again.
Wait a minute! Neck and shoulder? How does that keep the Big Guy out of a suit?
And he promised he was terminal, not just a few lousy aches and pains. Dead.
Does this mean he's planning to campaign until the Top Dummy election?
He'd better clarify before DUmmies start seeing through his scam.
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Wait a minute! Neck and shoulder? How does that keep the Big Guy out of a suit?
And he promised he was terminal, not just a few lousy aches and pains. Dead.
Does this mean he's planning to campaign until the Top Dummy election?
He'd better clarify before DUmmies start seeing through his scam.
I think it means that there'll be no playing Santa for girls' HS basketball teams this year. :whistling:
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^Heh heh.
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10 cc's of Thorazine brings the bearded one home ...
Okay, I had to look it up.
Really; it's always just been a word to me with no particular significance, other than a vague awareness that it's apparently a mood-altering drug.
<<<not a pharmacist, like most primitives tend to allege themselves to be.
Chlorpromazine (CPZ) — marketed, as chlorpromazine hydrochloride, in the United States as Thorazine and elsewhere as Largactil and Megaphen — is a dopamine antagonist of the typical anti-psychotic class of medications possessing additional anti-adrenergic, anti-serotonergic, anti-cholinergic and anti-histaminergic properties used to treat schizophrenia. First synthesized on December 11, 1951, chlorpromazine was the first drug developed with specific antipsychotic action and would serve as the prototype for the phenothiazine class of drugs, which comprises several other agents. The introduction of chlorpromazine during the 1950s has been described as the single greatest advance in the history of psychiatric care, improving the prognosis of people in psychiatric hospitals
Chlorpromazine is classified as a low-potency typical antipsychotic and in the past was used in the treatment of both acute and chronic psychoses, including schizophrenia and the manic phase of bipolar disorder, as well as amphetamine-induced psychoses. Low-potency antipsychotics have more anticholinergic side effects, such as dry mouth, sedation, and constipation, and lower rates of extrapyramidal side effects, while high-potency antipsychotics (such as haloperidol) have the reverse profile.
Chlorpromazine has also been used in porphyria and as part of tetanus treatment. It still is recommended for short-term management of severe anxiety and psychotic aggression. Resistant and severe hiccups, severe nausea/emesis, and preanesthetic conditioning are other uses. Symptoms of delirium in medically-hospitalized AIDS patients have been effectively treated with low doses of chlorpromazine.
Chlorpromazine is occasionally used off-label for treatment of severe migraine. It is often, particularly as palliation, used in small doses to reduce nausea suffered by opioid-treated cancer patients and to intensify and prolong the analgesia of the opioids as well.
Chlorpromazine is the most effective substance against human infection by the brain-eating amoeba. One study concluded: "Chlorpromazine had the best therapeutic activity against Naegleria fowleri in vitro and in vivo. Therefore, it may be a more useful therapeutic agent for the treatment of primary amoebic meningoencephalitis than amphotericin B."
In Germany, chlorpromazine still carries label indications for insomnia, severe pruritus, and preanesthesia. It is also used during heroin withdrawal under medical supervision.
Consuming food prior to taking chlorpromazine orally limits its absorption, likewise cotreatment with benztropine can also reduce chlorpromazine absorption. Alcohol can also reduce chlorpromazine absorption. Antacids slow chlorpromazine absorption. Lithium and chronic treatment with barbiturates can increase chlorpromazine clearance significantly. Tricyclic antidepressants (TCAs) can decrease chlorpromazine clearance and hence increase chlorpromazine exposure. Cotreatment with CYP1A2 inhibitors like ciprofloxacin, fluvoxamine or vemurafenib can reduce chlorpromazine clearance and hence increase exposure and potentially also adverse effects. Chlorpromazine can also potentiate the CNS depressant effects of drugs like barbiturates, benzodiazepines, opioids, lithium and anaesthetics and hence increase the potential for adverse effects such as respiratory depression and sedation.
At regular intervals the treating physician should evaluate whether continued treatment is needed. The drug should never be discontinued suddenly, due to unpleasant withdrawal-symptoms, such as agitation, sleeplessness, states of anxiety, stomach pain, dizziness, nausea and vomiting. Preferably the dose should be gradually reduced.
Wow.
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^Explains a lot, doesn't it ?
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How difficult is it to fit into a ******* Santa costume? They're made for the morbidly obese.
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^Explains a lot, doesn't it ?
I really had no idea; I'd always just casually dismissed it as just another mood-altering drug, an easy way out for people to deal with their problems, rather than dealing with them.
From the looks of things, it seems the big guy, poor dear Marta, his children, and humanity in general would be better off, if the big guy were simply permanently locked up in a small room with soft walls, kept out of harm's way.
One couldn't pay franksolich to run into the big guy, when he's suffering like that. I'd be chopped liver in no time flat.
I had an older brother, God have mercy on his soul, who was into all of this "better living through chemistry" bullshit, and his consumption of s-o-o-o-o-o many other drugs for s-o-o-o-o-o-o many other ailments caused s-o-o-o-o-o-o-o many side effects he was, towards the end, put on some anti-psychotic drug.
What always mystified me was how "anti"-psychotic drugs seemed to make one more psychotic, not less psychotic. I had to stay out of his way, as it was painfully obvious I was a "trigger" for him, and it wasn't pleasant.
This is only a guess, but franksolich was probably a "trigger," being the drug-free youngest brother, and as we all know, the youngest brother doesn't know a damned thing. I'd predicted such a deplorable outcome when still just a teenager, and he always seemed angry that I'd been right. After all, it is written that the youngest brother doesn't know a damned thing about anything, especially a "handicapped" one who's perceived as not being very bright.
It was all very sad, but it's been over for a while now.
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Sun Mar 22, 2015, 01:34 PM
Star Member KMOD (2,705 posts)
1. You amaze me, Steve.
You are so courageous, strong, and kind.
That reminded me of Wyatt Earp's theme song.
Like the Big Guy, Earp was a city employee (in Dodge City and Tombstone).
Unlike the Big Guy, Earp worked into his seventies, never campaigned for disability, and is remembered decades after his death.
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brain-eating amoeba
Speaking of Steve Dawes...
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Okay, I had to look it up.
Really; it's always just been a word to me with no particular significance, other than a vague awareness that it's apparently a mood-altering drug.
<<<not a pharmacist, like most primitives tend to allege themselves to be.
Wow.
WOW is right. That stuff is dangerous. 40+ years ago I had an extreme inner ear infection that caused me to be very unstable and very sick on the stomach. The doctor prescribed a large dose of Thorazine daily. Back then they didn't give you the little paper with what it was for and the side effects like they do today. I took it for about 2 weeks and it was driving me crazy. One morning I stepped out the backdoor and threw the bottle of pills in the woods....started feeling better right away.
Awhile later I saw my uncle the doctor and told him about the Thorazine and the amount I had been taking. He went up the wall, telling me I should sue the doctor. Then I told him how I had just cold turkey threw the pills away and he got even more upset. Seems you were supposed to come off them gradually or they would cause some form of damage. So, if you think I am crazy now, it's not my fault.... :-)....can I get a disability check?
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WOW is right. That stuff is dangerous.....
I tell you what; now that I'm aware the big guy has psychosis, if he ever shows up here in northeastern Nebraska, in the eastern foothills of the Sandhills, franksolich is going to be way over on the other side of Yellowstone National Park faster than one can say "Skins's island."
Not that I'm a coward; I'm merely sensible.
Psychotics are pretty dangerous people, and best to keep one's distance from them.
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??Where does the Big Guy claim to be on thorazine?