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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: I_B_Perky on March 14, 2015, 10:42:29 PM
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The Link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026365701 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026365701)
The OP:
DemocratSinceBirth (49,962 posts)
So tell my why I should fear Scott Walker
Let me preface my remarks by saying I am aware of the admonition that it is dangerous to "misunderestimate" your opponent.
He is a charmless governor from a small homogeneous state. Barack Obama did worse among caucasian voters than any Democratic candidate since Walter Mondale who lost forty nine states but was re-elected comfortably riding a wave of Latino, African American, Asian, and moderate and liberal caucasian voters.
I do not see Scott Walker making inroads into those groups.
The only Republicans that concern me are John Ellis Bush and Marco Rubio because they offer the possibility of mitigating Republican losses among Latinos without which a path to victory is not clear.
Something tells me Walker scares the living shit out of the dump.
Some comments:
HuckleB (28,970 posts)
1. One name: George W. Bush.
He was "elected" twice. It makes no sense to pretend Walker is not a threat.
Walker is Bush!!!!
HuckleB (28,970 posts)
16. Probably. Though that's what everyone thought would happen with GWB.
We are not in a place to underestimate anyone. Ever. The damage they do is beyond the pale.
Petrified? I think so.
DemocratSinceBirth (49,962 posts)
6. Bush* had the cowboy mystique even if it was of the drug store variety and he was the scion...
Bush* had the cowboy mystique even if it was of the drug store variety and he was the scion of a powerful political family. He also was the governor of a large heterogeneous state, knocked off a political heavyweight for governor in the name of Ann Richards, and demonstrated an ability to capture Latino votes in his home state of Texas.
Bush!!!
HuckleB (28,970 posts)
8. And?
Obama hasn't won Texas, so it's not like that is a big game changer.
It's time to realize that GWB isn't that different from Walker, and letting him go is exactly what happened in '99 and '00.
Not again!
Walker is Bush!!!
DemocratSinceBirth (49,962 posts)
10. Bush* received 35% of the Latino vote in 00 and 44% in 04.
If Walker hits those numbers you can turn off the lights but he won't.
Stirring up the hive?
HuckleB (28,970 posts)
12. Citizens United was not in play back then.
We should not fool ourselves.
Yep!
DemocratSinceBirth (49,962 posts)
17. Unless the Koch Bros, can buy Scott Walker a different electorate I'm not going to worry...
Unless the Koch Bros, can buy Scott Walker a different electorate I'm not going to worry my "beautiful mind."
Will a dummie bite?
HuckleB (28,970 posts)
23. I was here in 2000. We should worry.
We are at risk, if we do not.
Yep. Same one.
trumad (38,183 posts)
2. No repub scares me...
They will eat each other during the primaries.
Obeekaaybe.
Fred Sanders (11,316 posts)
5. Republican controlled States are preparing to rig the Electoral College?
All your states are belong to us!!!
PowerToThePeople (5,047 posts)
7. He is doing very bad things to Wisconsin
You need to fear all of these Republican scum, because they want you dead. You are just a useless drain on their capital.
Hmmm... how many times have I seen the dump wish death upon their political enemies?
PowerToThePeople (5,047 posts)
11. Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker Signs Right-To-Work Bill
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2015/03/09/391901732/wisconsin-gov-scott-walker-sighs-right-to-work-bill
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker signed a right-to-work measure Monday that makes his state the 25th in the nation with such a law. That effectively means that mandatory union membership and dues are banned at privately owned businesses — a move strongly opposed by unions, which say it restricts collective bargaining.
Shawn Johnson of Wisconsin Public Radio reports: "Walker signed the bill at an invitation-only ceremony Monday morning at Badger Meter, north of Milwaukee. He was surrounded by company officials and others who supported the divisive proposal, including Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch, Assembly Speaker Robin Vos and Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald."
Before the signing, Walker, a likely Republican presidential candidate for 2016, said the law "sends a powerful message across the country and around the world."
The message is, "we are putting our slaves in check."
The message is people should have a choice to join a union. Nothing more.
DemocratSinceBirth (49,962 posts)
15. Don't worry... He won't be harming anybody except the innocent people of Wisconsin./NT
Screw the idiots in Wisconsin!!!! They voted against their best interest and now we are throwing them under the bus!
PowerToThePeople (5,047 posts)
18. Well,
the innocent people of Wisconsin are NOT acceptable collateral damage to me.
I agree that he will likely not make it to the national stage as President.
Pssst dummie? He is already on the national stage.
PowerToThePeople (5,047 posts)
22. * was successful?
Star Member DemocratSinceBirth (49,953 posts)
21. All politics is local so you know his appeal better than me. What is It?
I didn't like Reagan or Bush* at all but I can see why they were successful.
I think his handlers were successful at stealing two elections and propagandizing the population into some support for an illegal war, but HE was certainly not.
I can not even believe I see a post on DU claiming * was successful. This just blows my mind. Oh wait, this is the new right wing DU, I guess it was just a matter of time before positive * posts started showing up.
:lmao: :lmao:
PowerToThePeople (5,047 posts)
27. selected and elected are not the same thing.
Wait for it...
DemocratSinceBirth (49,962 posts)
29. Ronald Reagan was selected??? He won 44 states in 1980 and 49 states in 1984./NT
OUCH!!!!!
That particular subthread is very interesting. A little taste...
DemocratSinceBirth (49,962 posts)
31. I did my part...I went to one of the most impoverished part of my hometown and drove poor folks...
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I did my part...I went to one of the most impoverished part of my hometown and drove poor folks to the polls...Don't blame me...In the precincts I worked Gore literally got near 100% of the vote.
To suggest I empathize with Republicans is as nonsensical as suggesting Mussolini empathized with the Abyssinians.
There's a poster in this thread who is from Central Florida...Ask Trumad what Midway is like.
PowerToThePeople (5,047 posts)
33. I never blaimed you.
I just have issue with you claiming the two, especially * were successful Presidents. Definitions of success differ from person to person I guess.
HereSince1628 (30,654 posts)
37. He isn't doing it alone, he COULDN'T do it alone
The teahadists control all branches of elected government and the brothers who lead both houses of the legislature are really about 70% of why Wisconsin is getting ALEC boiler plate shoved down it's throat.
On his own, Walker would really be nothing.
All your government are belong to us!
Kalidurga (7,083 posts)
19. Fear is a mind killer
So I would not tell you to fear Walker. But, we better make sure our nominee is stellar and as scandal free as possible.
The wheels of the bus go 'round and 'round... over top of Hillary.
Raine1967 (6,313 posts)
25. IT's the Koch money and advertising that I am concerned with.
Walker is nothing more than a puppet paid to say anything they want.
It the advertising and the shadow campaigns that we should all be concerned about. WAlker is a result of the cancer of big money in politics.
Sure you can remove a polyp. That doesn't mean the cancer is gone.
Walker is a polyp!!! Walker is cancer!!!
That is it for now. Dunno if it will grow.
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The DemocratAfterbirth primitive is so frightened, he made a puddle under his chair.
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You should fear Walker. You would be a fool not to.
Looking at the posts above the DUmmies have no clue as to why they should fear him.
1) Walker is a fighter. Unlike Bush he will fight back.
2) Walker knows how to handle a liberal press.
3) Democrats in WI have pulled every speck of dirt from his past and found nothing. Every dirty trick failed. Falsely accusing him of criminal misdeeds backfired.
---in short, the standard democrat play book FAILED.
Walker showed the people of Wisconsin what the democrats had to offer, and the people rejected it.--that is why you should fear him.
As always DUmmies have no clue about REAL conservative motivations.
We know our enemy well. But all you DUmmies have are propaganda phantoms-how can you plan to counteract a Walker campaign when you don't know who you are fighting.
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HuckleB (28,970 posts)
12. Citizens United was not in play back then.
We should not fool ourselves
Yeah, you DUmbasses are so stupid you let other people fool you....much to the detriment to the US and also the world.
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I am bracing myself for...It's all Walker's fault !
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The main thing that will stop the election of a Republican President is the Republican party.
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misunderestimate
:thatsright:
I can not even believe I see a post on DU claiming * was successful. This just blows my mind. Oh wait, this is the new right wing DU, I guess it was just a matter of time before positive * posts started showing up.
(http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/right%20wing%20conspiracy.bmp)
Watch out.
The main thing that will stop the election of a Republican President is the Republican party.
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The main thing that will stop the election of a Republican President is the Republican party.
Dead on, and H5 given.
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I am bracing myself for...It's all Walker's fault !
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I am bracing myself for...It's all Walker's fault !
WDS just doesn't have the same ring as BDS.