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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: Lord Undies on July 16, 2008, 08:23:54 AM
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http://www.ocala.com/article/20080715/NEWS/304629854
OCALA — A Summerfield woman said she blurted without thinking a couple choice words for a county judge during jury selection at the Marion County Courthouse Monday morning—ones which had landed her in jail by the end of the day.
“Sometimes I get upset and I say things,†Sarah E. Muller said during an interview with the Star-Banner at the Marion County Jail Booking Center late Monday afternoon. “I didn't know I would go to jail for freedom of speech.â€
Faced with the prospect of serving as a juror and upset that County Judge R. James McCune Jr. denied her request for dismissal, the 23-year-old insulted the presiding judge by calling him a two-syllable curse word—a crude term referring to the anus (she called him a "Feces Exit"??) — within earshot of several of the other 178 potential jurors seated in the Jury Assembly Room.
When the judge asked Muller to clarify her remark, Muller repeated it. He charged her on the spot with direct criminal contempt of the court — a second-degree misdemeanor— and Muller was promptly handcuffed by a court bailiff and taken into custody.
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I wonder if it would help if maybe perhaps a written explanation and definition of "Free Speech" could maybe be included in the next mass "stimulus package" mailing?
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The Founding Fathers would be shocked and appalled at how so many people today are misusing the phrase "freedom of speech."
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The Founding Fathers would be shocked and appalled at how so many people today are misusing the phrase "freedom of speech."
They'd probably Bitch-slap half of us for misusing it, and then the other half for allowing the misuse to become common practice unchallenged.
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Time and place lady. Time and place. You can call him everything under the sun. Once you're safely done with the court and jury duty. Go stand on a street corner. As long as you're not telling lies and want to take the chance on being sued, knock yourself out. But in front the judge in his courtroom? Do so at your own peril moron.
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Time and place lady. Time and place. You can call him everything under the sun. Once you're safely done with the court and jury duty. Go stand on a street corner. As long as you're not telling lies and want to take the chance on being sued, knock yourself out. But in front the judge in his courtroom? Do so at your own peril moron.
Or at least have the sense to preface your rant with the phrase: "With all due respect, your honor". It's not foolproof (which, admittedly in your case, probably means you're screwed anyway), but it at least gives the judge a - thin - pretext for not locking your ass up for contempt of court.
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When he asked her "excuse me? what did you just say?" she should have begged for the courts mercy and explained that it was an excited utterance, apologies, apologies, etc... But, I don't think she was smart enough to realize that.
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Wonder what her DU screenname is?
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Wonder what her DU screenname is?
well, we have no proof she's on DU... she didn't say "fascist asshole"
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Incidentally if you ever want to get out of jury duty just act like a nazi during the selection process.
Tell them you think jaywalkers ought to be flogged in public and that drunk drivers need to be on chain gangs or do hard labor for three years. Ask how come they don't publically whip people for shoplifting.
Surprisingly they WILL pass on you. :)
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Wonder what her DU screenname is?
well, we have no proof she's on DU... she didn't say "fascist asshole"
Considering all the editing the article did to her actual comments...
Faced with the prospect of serving as a juror and upset that County Judge R. James McCune Jr. denied her request for dismissal, the 23-year-old insulted the presiding judge by calling him a two-syllable curse word—a crude term referring to the anus
...and the fact that she wasn't a defendant, but simply trying to evade doing a civic duty she apparently felt was beneath her - an attitude held by many over at the DUmp, though not exclusively - it is reasonable and prudent to assume her DUmp membership, as well as her status as 'Donating Member' at that organization.
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Time and place lady. Time and place. You can call him everything under the sun. Once you're safely done with the court and jury duty. Go stand on a street corner. As long as you're not telling lies and want to take the chance on being sued, knock yourself out. But in front the judge in his courtroom? Do so at your own peril moron.
Or at least have the sense to preface your rant with the phrase: "With all due respect, your honor". It's not foolproof (which, admittedly in your case, probably means you're screwed anyway), but it at least gives the judge a - thin - pretext for not locking your ass up for contempt of court.
Or she could have said "I said you have a vast mole!" :-)
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What a moron!
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Anytime I hear this "freedom of speech" bullshit from an ignorant retard, I ask them to recite for me the first five words of the First Amendment. I have yet to have it quoted back by these self proclaimed constitutional experts.
As far as young Sarah, that's the kind of stupid that even cup size couldn't overcome.
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Here is what our lovely free speech lady looks like...curtesy of the marion County Sheriff's Office web site
(http://www.marionso.com/image/cur/names/90/0800010290.001)
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Here is what our lovely free speech lady looks like...curtesy of the marion County Sheriff's Office web site
(http://www.marionso.com/image/cur/names/90/0800010290.001)
She looks like what comes out of assholes.
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Incidentally if you ever want to get out of jury duty just act like a nazi during the selection process.
Tell them you think jaywalkers ought to be flogged in public and that drunk drivers need to be on chain gangs or do hard labor for three years. Ask how come they don't publically whip people for shoplifting.
Surprisingly they WILL pass on you. :)
Or that you can spot gulity people...just like that! :-){Thank you George Carlin!}
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http://www.ocala.com/article/20080715/NEWS/304629854
OCALA — A Summerfield woman said she blurted without thinking a couple choice words for a county judge during jury selection at the Marion County Courthouse Monday morning—ones which had landed her in jail by the end of the day.
“Sometimes I get upset and I say things,†Sarah E. Muller said during an interview with the Star-Banner at the Marion County Jail Booking Center late Monday afternoon. “I didn't know I would go to jail for freedom of speech.â€
Faced with the prospect of serving as a juror and upset that County Judge R. James McCune Jr. denied her request for dismissal, the 23-year-old insulted the presiding judge by calling him a two-syllable curse word—a crude term referring to the anus (she called him a "Feces Exit"??) — within earshot of several of the other 178 potential jurors seated in the Jury Assembly Room.
When the judge asked Muller to clarify her remark, Muller repeated it. He charged her on the spot with direct criminal contempt of the court — a second-degree misdemeanor— and Muller was promptly handcuffed by a court bailiff and taken into custody.
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I wonder if it would help if maybe perhaps a written explanation and definition of "Free Speech" could maybe be included in the next mass "stimulus package" mailing?
Ahhhh LU, I'm disappointed. You missed it. She called him a 'sphincter'. :-)
KC
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Ahhhh LU, I'm disappointed. You missed it. She called him a 'sphincter'. :-)
KC
My use of four syllables was misplaced humor. :-)
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Ahhhh LU, I'm disappointed. You missed it. She called him a 'sphincter'. :-)
KC
My use of four syllables was misplaced humor. :-)
You used 4 syllables?! Well, you know we are syllabically challenged where we live. Damn has at the very least 2 syllables.
:lmao:
KC
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Incidentally if you ever want to get out of jury duty just act like a nazi during the selection process.
Tell them you think jaywalkers ought to be flogged in public and that drunk drivers need to be on chain gangs or do hard labor for three years. Ask how come they don't publically whip people for shoplifting.
Surprisingly they WILL pass on you. :)
So...ah...I should just be myself then? :-)
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Tell them you think jaywalkers ought to be flogged in public and that drunk drivers need to be on chain gangs or do hard labor for three years. Ask how come they don't publically whip people for shoplifting.
They all sound fair to me :-)
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Here is what our lovely free speech lady looks like...curtesy of the marion County Sheriff's Office web site
(http://www.marionso.com/image/cur/names/90/0800010290.001)
That's what 23 looks like nowadays, huh? What could this girl have had to do that was more pressing? Did she think her job as the local scarecrow was going to be outsourced?
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Jury pools and jury call & selection are a strange phenomenon. I know some folks that have been called up and seated numerous times through out the yrs. I have only been called up 2 times and never selected.One time I was queried by both lawyers and even the judge for about 20 minutes but alas never selected. Guess they don't want anyone that can't be sidetracked by a song and dance and will just go with the evidence presented ??
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Jury pools and jury call & selection are a strange phenomenon. I know some folks that have been called up and seated numerous times through out the yrs. I have only been called up 2 times and never selected.One time I was queried by both lawyers and even the judge for about 20 minutes but alas never selected. Guess they don't want anyone that can't be sidetracked by a song and dance and will just go with the evidence presented ??
Yup. Those people who can keep their eye on the ****in' ball are going to be the death of the Justice system as we know it.
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Here is what our lovely free speech lady looks like...curtesy of the marion County Sheriff's Office web site
(http://www.marionso.com/image/cur/names/90/0800010290.001)
That's what 23 looks like nowadays, huh? What could this girl have had to do that was more pressing? Did she think her job as the local scarecrow was going to be outsourced?
And to think this was after she tried to make herself presentable enough to go downtown to court.
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Here is what our lovely free speech lady looks like...curtesy of the marion County Sheriff's Office web site
(http://www.marionso.com/image/cur/names/90/0800010290.001)
That's what 23 looks like nowadays, huh? What could this girl have had to do that was more pressing? Did she think her job as the local scarecrow was going to be outsourced?
And to think this was after she tried to make herself presentable enough to go downtown to court.
Shaved her legs, armpits and everything...
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Here is what our lovely free speech lady looks like...curtesy of the marion County Sheriff's Office web site
(http://www.marionso.com/image/cur/names/90/0800010290.001)
That's what 23 looks like nowadays, huh? What could this girl have had to do that was more pressing? Did she think her job as the local scarecrow was going to be outsourced?
And to think this was after she tried to make herself presentable enough to go downtown to court.
I think she missed.
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You can also ask "The Police arrested them, right? Why would they do that unless they'd done SOMETHING wrong?" The defence won't want you in spades, but 'ya gotta seem sincere, not wiseass!
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Lest we forget:
updated 8:01 a.m. ET, Tues., July. 10, 2007
BARNSTABLE, Mass. - A Cape Cod man who claimed he was homophobic, racist and a habitual liar to avoid jury duty earned an angry rebuke from a judge on Monday, who referred the case to prosecutors for possible charges.
“In 32 years of service in courtrooms, as a prosecutor, as a defense attorney and now as a judge, I have quite frankly never confronted such a brazen situation of an individual attempting to avoid juror service,†Barnstable Superior Court Judge Gary Nickerson told Daniel Ellis, according to a preliminary court transcript of the exchange.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11909495/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11909495/)