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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on March 08, 2015, 10:36:20 AM
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Thats because you are.
sorefeet (726 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026330862
I feel like a ****ing criminal
Mom Is in Illinois and dying so I have to get there. I am a legal medical marijuana user and will take some cannabis with me. I have to go thru Wyoming and Nebraska, both are exploiting the marijuana situation. By exploiting the marijuana issue you mean it is illegal to have marijuana in those states. Trying to say they are overwhelmed with all the drug trafficking. The cops are saying it plays on their conscience because it is illegal federally. It is illegal int eh staes,DUmbass. Bring weed into Nebraska pay your fine. Bring over an ounce, go directly to jail. Since when did a cop have a conscience??? Why don't it bother the blue states conscience. Because the RED states are a bunch of CHICKENSHIT, RIGHT WING, ANTI-AMERICAN, UNEDUCATED,SUPERSTITIOUS,ZEALOTS. I highly suggest you drive around my state, DUmbass, because if I stop you I will show you exactly how much I care about my state and it's laws, and your issues with not beying them. The hypocrite bastards claim they want government out of your life, but they are the main culprits that want to control my morals but not theirs. I will give them zero reasons to pull me over, so I'll see how this goes. All they will have on me is an out of state tag that has legal marijuana user behind the wheel, who will not be impaired in any way. Except for fear. 62 years old driving across American, in fear of my protectors.
Something creepy about this picture.
Sure- sure... you won't be under the influence of Marijuana as you drive... You can't go a day without it even though you know it's illegal to have- even if you are going to see your 'dying mother'. Go **** yourself, DUmbass.
Man from Pickens (1,026 posts)
1. I see the problem you still view them as protectors... change that to predators and the picture becomes coherent again, if somewhat darker
We protect decent people from people like you. I can see how that colors your view of the world. Tough shit.
rurallib (37,278 posts)
2. sorry about your mother. I surely understand your situation.
Mrs. Lib and I have some problems we feel some cannabis oil could help, but we live in an ass backward state.
The only laws that the DUmpmonkiez support are those that support the DUmpmonkiez world views. All other laws are oppression. Leftists laws are 'settled science'.
strawberries (375 posts)
5. Sorry to hear about your mom Put the pot between your tire rims or behind the back seat by the trunk. Sad I have to say that.
Take care
We have dogs for that kind of shinanigans...
Bugenhagen (94 posts)
7. Watch out for cops pulling over any car they see from a pot state. At least I read an article about (Wyoming?) cops doing that to cars with Colorado plates. Maybe its just rumors, but it rings true.
Let's see... I am on patrol and see a Colorado plated car with a shit load of marijuana bimperstickers and Barry bumperstickers odds are I am going to follow that car waiting for them to **** up. They will. Went they are stopped they will smell like marijuana smoke. Step out of the car, please. Fail the field sobriety test but blow 0.00 on the PBT? No problem. Call in the drug dog. Find the stash. Escort for a blood test. Positive THC. I give you a free ride to county jail.
OR- I see a car with no bumperstickers driving fine. I don't stop it. No problems.
DUmpmonkiez always bitch about situations they put themselves into.
handmade34 (12,509 posts)
11. safe travels...I understand...
I have had six drug busts so far this year- five were High School kids. Three were at the High School. All were with Colorado Marijuana brought in. Only one was a long term 'doper'.
Don't know why we'd be pissed off about Colorado's hippy population.
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Now who could of had any idea that legalizing pot in one state was going to cause a problem in another.
When I was a teenager, one joint could get you 15 years in the pen in S.C.. It was mostly low class trash from up north using the stuff back then. But then doctor's, lawyer's and politician's kids started getting caught with the stuff and lo and behold the penalties had to be reduced.
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That's unusual, usually you Libs just feel like ****ing a criminal.
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sorefeet (726 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026330862
I will give them zero reasons to pull me over, so I'll see how this goes. All they will have on me is an out of state tag that has legal marijuana user behind the wheel,
Oh yeah. you are sooooooo getting pulled over.
Jail. It is a real possibility for you. I suggest doing without the weed for your trip. (I know, I'm talking to a DUmmy. Its just the only way he won 't meet Bubba, the lonely inmate...Cause you just know who will be the b!tch.)
edit to add:
Emails sent warning Illinois, Wyoming and Nebraska highway patrols. Tags with "legal marijuana user behind the wheel" means he has a two week stash in the car.
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Another 62 year old useless stoner mongrel from the 60s.
Yet they say we are the party of old white guys. :lmao:
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sorefeet (729 posts)
21. Okay friends I'm gone
I'll let you know how it went. And I promise to bite my tongue if I do get pulled over. It's hard to do when you know you are not a bad person, cause no one harm and are passionate in their beliefs in the value of marijuana. Plus I just don't like cops.
Time to run the gauntlet.
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DUmmy sorefeet, I have an idea that will prevent you from being targeted for being from a "weed friendly " state. Remove your license plates before you enter a backwards thinking red state and you won't be profiled as a stoner by "The Man"
Safe travels. ..
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Now who could of had any idea that legalizing pot in one state was going to cause a problem in another.
Bingo! It was CO that changed its law, not NE and WY. It was this DU-member who chose "medical" marijuana instead of legal - and often better - medications (assuming he has a real medical condition rather than a phony pretext for recreational use). And is declining to use legal medications for the duration of his trip.
Choices and actions have consequences, and whining about potential consequences that you dislike is childish. Make sure all your tail lights and turn signal lights work, obey traffic laws, and NE and WY troopers, sheriffs, and police have better things to do than follow a car just because it has CO plates.
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Bingo! It was CO that changed its law, not NE and WY. It was this DU-member who chose "medical" marijuana instead of legal - and often better - medications (assuming he has a real medical condition rather than a phony pretext for recreational use). And is declining to use legal medications for the duration of his trip.
Choices and actions have consequences, and whining about potential consequences that you dislike is childish. Make sure all your tail lights and turn signal lights work, obey traffic laws, and NE and WY troopers, sheriffs, and police have better things to do than follow a car just because it has CO plates.
This right here. Being a Colorado resident, I've lost count of how many people I've met that use weed for "medical" reasons. I'm sure this lib is cut from the same cloth. No mention of condition at all but whatever it is, I'm sure medical science came up with a much better treatment for it before the dispensaries started popping up all over the place here.
My diagnosis? This is just another dope head having a tantrum because they can't just haul ass around the country with a bag full of MJ. I hope they do pull you over prick.
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I guess the OP never heard the old adage, "when in Rome..."
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Now who could of had any idea that legalizing pot in one state was going to cause a problem in another.
There wouldn't be a problem if the jug-eared muslim enforced federal drug laws.
Marijuana is illegal in the United States.
If all the money saved by ignoring immigration laws was put into drug enforcement, we could get a hell of a lot more democrats off the street.
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They are bragging about it. Even DUmber. :mental:
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That sounds like a sound argument for having reciprocating CC laws in the USA. Wait. What? That's a different story because of the Second Amendment that must be ignored? Gotcha.
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If weed is the great healing drug the DUmmies claim it to be, why do we need to invest billion$ of $$ on obamacare?
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This right here. Being a Colorado resident, I've lost count of how many people I've met that use weed for "medical" reasons. I'm sure this lib is cut from the same cloth. No mention of condition at all but whatever it is, I'm sure medical science came up with a much better treatment for it before the dispensaries started popping up all over the place here.
My diagnosis? This is just another dope head having a tantrum because they can't just haul ass around the country with a bag full of MJ. I hope they do pull you over prick.
I live in CA. Anyone who thought about it would have known that "medical marijuana"was a false-flag back-door means of hindering enforcement of the law. A lot of Californians didn't think, and together with the minority who already favored legalization, they passed that ballot proposition.
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No, no, no - Whitefish, MT:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002520108
Disabled/Retired at None
Whitefish, Montana Information Technology and Services
SSDI leech for years:
Aluminum Boat Restoration
Feather Craft
Estimator, Project Manager
ASRC
1995 – 1996 (1 year)
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No, no, no - Whitefish, MT:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002520108
SSDI leech for years:
Another one of those pot-bellied grey-haired pony-tailed old hippies.
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And what does he do with the charity dollars we give him?
I did get him pain pills illegally until we got him to Illinois.
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I'm seeing a lot of people questioning the medical value of marijuana. Are you folks that question the whole concept of medical marijuana 100% convinced that it has absolutely no medical use at all?
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Medical marijuana has very rare and limited legitimate medical use.
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Medical marijuana has very rare and limited legitimate medical use.
If that. A use for pain. Of course there are other medications that does the same thing.
Can you show me other uses that have been tested and proved to be effective?
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I'm seeing a lot of people questioning the medical value of marijuana. Are you folks that question the whole concept of medical marijuana 100% convinced that it has absolutely no medical use at all?
If that. A use for pain. Of course there are other medications that does the same thing.
Can you show me other uses that have been tested and proved to be effective?
Maybe Reality vs DU could tell you better.
He is the one who seems to have doubts.
The only legitimate treatments I have heard of for medical marijuana are glaucoma, appetite disorders, and late term cancer treatments.
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If that. A use for pain. Of course there are other medications that does the same thing.
Can you show me other uses that have been tested and proved to be effective?
Hi Dutch,
Real quick anecdotal story and then I have to run. I will get back to you on this later.
My wife was in a car accident 17 years ago. She was in the back seat of the car and was the only one that survived. The driver was decapitated. The passenger, her best friend, was also killed. This was a very serious accident.
She was obviously seriously injured and required months of treatment. One of the nagging issues still to this day is neck pain that causes severe migraines. She has had surgery for this twice, and a ton of therapy. It has helped considerably, however the neck pain and subsequent migraines do still happen. These migraines usually get so bad that they put her on the floor and make her basically not able to function. Sometimes they bring her to tears. She is left to basically lay on the floor in in misery.
She has tried an assortment of proscribed drugs for this and none of them did any good. The only drug that has done any good...you guessed it...marijuana. The effect is nearly miraculous. It does not completely cure the headache, but provides instant relief to the point that she can function and deal with a much more manageable (normal) headache.
I challenge anyone to witness a loved one go through that much pain, get the cure with marijuana, and then still say that they should be criminal for it.
I love my wife. I think it's bullshit that what she has to do for this extreme pain is considered illegal.
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The proggy just needs to drive far enough north, then he can catch highway 20, across the roof of Nebraska. Nobody will suspect anything.
Yup, that's the ticket.
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Hi Dutch,
Real quick anecdotal story and then I have to run. I will get back to you on this later.
My wife was in a car accident 17 years ago. She was in the back seat of the car and was the only one that survived. The driver was decapitated. The passenger, her best friend, was also killed. This was a very serious accident.
She was obviously seriously injured and required months of treatment. One of the nagging issues still to this day is neck pain that causes severe migraines. She has had surgery for this twice, and a ton of therapy. It has helped considerably, however the neck pain and subsequent migraines do still happen. These migraines usually get so bad that they put her on the floor and make her basically not able to function. Sometimes they bring her to tears. She is left to basically lay on the floor in in misery.
She has tried an assortment of proscribed drugs for this and none of them did any good. The only drug that has done any good...you guessed it...marijuana. The effect is nearly miraculous. It does not completely cure the headache, but provides instant relief to the point that she can function and deal with a much more manageable (normal) headache.
I challenge anyone to witness a loved one go through that much pain, get the cure with marijuana, and then still say that they should be criminal for it.
I love my wife. I think it's bullshit that what she has to do for this extreme pain is considered illegal.
Sorry to hear about your wife. That has got to suck.
Me? I really do not see what's the big deal about pot. I have heard of the gateway drug argument before and I think it is BS. Those that are inclined to let drugs rule/ruin their life will do it whether pot is legal or not. Example one is booze.
I smoked it back in the day, everybody did around here, and the only thing it ever really did for me was give me the munchies. Made music more interesting to listen to. Made my lungs ache. Gave it up in my mid twenties. I'm the type of person that errs on the side of freedom. If someone wants to do it, fine. Don't take my money when said someone turns out to be a loser.
Just my 2 cents.
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I live in PA but work in NJ. PA is a gun friendly state, NJ is one of, if not the worse state for gun owners. The police in NJ are always pulling over cars from PA in hopes of finding a gun. A handgun on the person in NJ will find you in jail, there is not carry permit in NJ.
Of course the DUmmies would consider that a great use of the taxpayers money; arresting and ruining the lives of gun owning Pennsylvanians who stray over the state line. But when your a DUmmy and not a taxpayer, all is well with your soul.
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I live in PA but work in NJ. PA is a gun friendly state, NJ is one of, if not the worse state for gun owners. The police in NJ are always pulling over cars from PA in hopes of finding a gun. A handgun on the person in NJ will find you in jail, there is not carry permit in NJ.
Of course the DUmmies would consider that a great use of the taxpayers money; arresting and ruining the lives of gun owning Pennsylvanians who stray over the state line. But when your a DUmmy and not a taxpayer, all is well with your soul.
That happened to some black woman recently, but i don't remember how the case turned out.
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I recall reading a study where they tested the composition of marijuana smoke and found pretty much the same carcinogens as tobacco smoke. THC can be extracted or synthesized much like they do with nicotine and might be a better option for those who seem to be helped by it.
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That happened to some black woman recently, but i don't remember how the case turned out.
IIRC, it eventually got dropped.
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IIRC, it eventually got dropped.
Yes correct. The charges were dropped several days after her story was featured in the various NRA publications, cover story in Americas First Freedom. The NJ affiliate of the NRA, The Association of New Jersey Rifle and Pistol Clubs took up her case. Her legal council is Evan Nappen who is probably the best, he literally wrorte the book on living in NJ as a gun owner.
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But we digress, the reason why the OP feels like a criminal is because the Dummy is going to partake in illegal activity, knowing it is illegal. Putting it out on the interwebs ahead of time, shows a lack of respect for the laws of the state. Personally I think it all a BS Dummy bouncy attempt.
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But we digress, the reason why the OP feels like a criminal is because the Dummy is going to partake in illegal activity, knowing it is illegal. Putting it out on the interwebs ahead of time, shows a lack of respect for the laws of the state. Personally I think it all a BS Dummy bouncy attempt.
Maybe the DUmmy was encouraged by Hitlery to flaunt the law...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/cheri-jacobus/2015/03/06/cnns-gloria-borger-instructs-dems-your-job-defend-hillary-clinton-not (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/cheri-jacobus/2015/03/06/cnns-gloria-borger-instructs-dems-your-job-defend-hillary-clinton-not)
Quit attacking libs who want to break the law and get away with it.
Start supporting libs who want to break the law and get away with it !
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I'm seeing a lot of people questioning the medical value of marijuana. Are you folks that question the whole concept of medical marijuana 100% convinced that it has absolutely no medical use at all?
No, you're not. You're seeing a lot of people disgusted with phantom medical conditions being an excuse to get high. There is not a sane, rational, thoughtful person who disputes there being medical value in marijuana; but it's not the wonder drug that its advocates claim it to be.
My wife was in a car accident 17 years ago. She was in the back seat of the car and was the only one that survived. The driver was decapitated. The passenger, her best friend, was also killed. This was a very serious accident.
She was obviously seriously injured and required months of treatment. One of the nagging issues still to this day is neck pain that causes severe migraines. She has had surgery for this twice, and a ton of therapy. It has helped considerably, however the neck pain and subsequent migraines do still happen. These migraines usually get so bad that they put her on the floor and make her basically not able to function. Sometimes they bring her to tears. She is left to basically lay on the floor in in misery.
She has tried an assortment of proscribed drugs for this and none of them did any good. The only drug that has done any good...you guessed it...marijuana. The effect is nearly miraculous. It does not completely cure the headache, but provides instant relief to the point that she can function and deal with a much more manageable (normal) headache.
I challenge anyone to witness a loved one go through that much pain, get the cure with marijuana, and then still say that they should be criminal for it.
No one is saying your wife is a criminal, they're mocking a DUmmie that thinks it cannot live without its stash while it goes to see its dying mother in another state.
I love my wife. I think it's bullshit that what she has to do for this extreme pain is considered illegal.
(http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/archive/2006/05/1_123125_122981_2134691_2141090_marinol.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg)
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No, you're not. You're seeing a lot of people disgusted with phantom medical conditions being an excuse to get high. There is not a sane, rational, thoughtful person who disputes there being medical value in marijuana; but it's not the wonder drug that its advocates claim it to be.
Well stated! It was sold to the people of CA as a wonder drug for genuine medical conditions, but cooperative doper-abetting doctors have made it what it was intended to be, a back-door legalization (after, IIRC, two unsuccessful attempts at an outright legalization). I can re-read that sentence as many times as RvDU wishes - or he can - but there's no denial in that sentence that marijuana - or THC - may have some medical value for some people. Whether it is the best treatment available is another question, and depends on the treated condition and the individual patient.
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No one has proven that weed will do anything for you that you can't get legally from a six-pack of PBR.
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No one has proven that weed will do anything for you that you can't get legally from a six-pack of PBR.
In my current condition, I can do that after three O'Doul's. :lmao:
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No, you're not. You're seeing a lot of people disgusted with phantom medical conditions being an excuse to get high.
I'll concede the point that no one here explicitly stated that there is absolutely no benefit to medical marijuana. Some of the statements do seem to imply that.
I fully understand that there is abuse of medical marijuana laws and understand the frustration of people who witness said abuse. However the abuse does not seem like a particularly good reason to deny access to people who legitimately need it.
There is not a sane, rational, thoughtful person who disputes there being medical value in marijuana;
I agree. Every once in a while, I do see people who flat out deny any medical benefit to marijuana.
but it's not the wonder drug that its advocates claim it to be.
That would depend on who you ask. There again, I've witnessed its potential first-hand with my wife when no other drugs did much of anything.
Also, have you heard about the strain for seizures called Charlotte's Web? I imagine the parents of Charlotte Figi would tell you it's an absolute wonder drug that may have saved her life. At the very least it made a dramatic improvement in her health and quality of life since she was having 300 grand mal seizures a week, and now only has about four a month with controlled, regular use of that strain. Their family story is heartwarming and worth looking up if you haven't heard it.
No one is saying your wife is a criminal, they're mocking a DUmmie that thinks it cannot live without its stash while it goes to see its dying mother in another state.
Actually a lot of people are saying my wife is a criminal. The law in my state says it. Anyone who doesn't support medical marijuana legalization is saying my wife is and should be a criminal. It's true that no one in this thread has said it.
I'm right there with you an everyone else on mocking DUmbasses!
(http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/archive/2006/05/1_123125_122981_2134691_2141090_marinol.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg)
I know very little about Marinol so thanks for the suggestion. The real quick reading I just did on it indicate that it's targeted for cancer patients. I do not know near enough about it at this point to have an opinion, but I'd be surprised if it did the same thing for the headaches. It appears to be of the same origin but of course not the same thing.
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That would depend on who you ask. There again, I've witnessed its potential first-hand with my wife when no other drugs did much of anything.
Also, have you heard about the strain for seizures called Charlotte's Web? I imagine the parents of Charlotte Figi would tell you it's an absolute wonder drug that may have saved her life. At the very least it made a dramatic improvement in her health and quality of life since she was having 300 grand mal seizures a week, and now only has about four a month with controlled, regular use of that strain. Their family story is heartwarming and worth looking up if you haven't heard it.
It may be semantics, it may be polemics, but the definition of "wonder drug" or "miracle drug" is probably different also depending on who you ask.
Before you could gain agreement, you would have to agree on terms.
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Scuba (44,323 posts)
25. State cops aren't required to enforce federal laws. It's all a charade.
they don't call them DUmb for no reason.
roody (8,946 posts)
27. It is always good to drive in such a way as to give no,reason to be pulled over. I wish everyone did so. You could mail your pot.
Lochloosa (8,978 posts)
37. Mailing pot is not a good idea. Now you are talking Federal charges.
progressoid (33,910 posts)
31. I just talked to someone who was stopped in NE coming from Colorado.
They were only going five over the limit but they were driving a "suspicious" looking vehicle. They were just moving someone's belongings and had a rental van filled with stuff, including black garbage bags. Cop thought he was going to make a big score. After a half an hour of questions he eventually wrote a warning ticket for five over the limit.
OMG! The guy was speeding. That's agains the law. Got pulled over for no reason. Other than speeding. Of course they said it was only 5 miles over the limit. No DUmbie is going to tell you the truth.
backscatter712 (22,725 posts)
33. If you're going from Colorado to Illinois...
I hear the pigs in Nebraska are especially obnoxious. They openly target Colorado plates, detain them for hours, make arrests if a bit of marijuana the size of a grain of pepper is found, and generally behave like authoritarian pricks.
Be careful...
You are the reason we act like Police Officers. Less than an ounce is a citation. Don't let teh facts bother your story though.
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I fully understand that there is abuse of medical marijuana laws and understand the frustration of people who witness said abuse. However the abuse does not seem like a particularly good reason to deny access to people who legitimately need it.
Then I believe your beef is with those who ruin it for everyone else.
That would depend on who you ask.
Yeah, I know.
There again, I've witnessed its potential first-hand with my wife when no other drugs did much of anything.
Also, have you heard about the strain for seizures called Charlotte's Web? I imagine the parents of Charlotte Figi would tell you it's an absolute wonder drug that may have saved her life. At the very least it made a dramatic improvement in her health and quality of life since she was having 300 grand mal seizures a week, and now only has about four a month with controlled, regular use of that strain. Their family story is heartwarming and worth looking up if you haven't heard it.
Short term gain for a whole host of debilitating long term effects. What you trade now, you'll pay 4 times in the future.
Anyone who doesn't support medical marijuana legalization is saying my wife is and should be a criminal.
That's quite a broad brush.
I know very little about Marinol so thanks for the suggestion. The real quick reading I just did on it indicate that it's targeted for cancer patients. I do not know near enough about it at this point to have an opinion, but I'd be surprised if it did the same thing for the headaches. It appears to be of the same origin but of course not the same thing.
I'd suggest you read more, and talk to your doctor, before she makes a lifelong habit of setting a plant on fire and inhaling all of the carcinogens that come with it.
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A buddy of mine is a probation officer. He ran into a couple of his former clients that clearly smelled like weed. His ex-clients told him "it's legal, we have medical cards now" and he replied "but you still can't get a job." The PO went on to tell them that "your sacrifice is going to be living in your mom's basement the rest of your life." :-)
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I work with a guy who is eligible for early retirement, but is planning on waiting a couple of more years. However, he said if he tests positive on a piss test, then he's done.
He also plans on making a few trips to Colorado each year after retirement unless he can qualify for medical marijuana in Illinois.
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By rare I mean about 1 in a million.