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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Lord Undies on July 15, 2008, 09:30:55 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3625522
steve2470 (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-15-08 10:14 PM
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I need debunking here, please, of RW propaganda....
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Then there are the “right wing critics†who question his insanely convoluted answer to the question “why don’t you wear a flag pin?â€; that his wife said she wasn’t proud of her country until it became obvious that her husband had a good shot at the White House; that he’s had a close relationship with Bill Ayers, an unrepentant domestic terrorist. Okay, fine those were the work of “right wing critics†— and they had some legitimate concerns on those counts.
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http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NWY3MmEyNzcyNWQ1OT...
The terrorist thing is total BS, correct ? And this article distorts Ms. Obama, correct ? Hopefully the Obama campaign is addressing this stuff too.
Warpy (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-15-08 10:17 PM
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1. First, Google Bill Ayers, find out who he is
and who he's become in the 35 years since his "terrorist" days.
Second, Google Mrs. Obama's entire statement, context and all. It's not hard to find.
That's the way you counter "right wing critics" being parroted by somebody else who is too lazy to do his/her own research.
IOW, Warpy isn't going to be risking any tombstones by helping you out here, sparky
babylonsister (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-15-08 10:17 PM
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2. I'm done googling for others tonight, but look forward to responses. nt
babylonsister isn't gonna be the bearer of truth either. Too risky.
steve2470 (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-15-08 10:24 PM
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5. research
video of Michelle Obama:
http://www.breitbart.tv/html/49244.html
Bill Ayers:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/17/us/politics/17truth.h...
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/02/oba...
Sparky found himself some liberal links to poison his mind.
AZDemDist6 (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-15-08 10:22 PM
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3. Obama has a 'stop the smear' page here
Edited on Tue Jul-15-08 10:23 PM by AZDemDist6
www.fightthesmears.com
bookmark it
Still no information - just outside links to dubious unsubstaniated liberal bullshit.
DinahMoeHum (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-15-08 10:23 PM
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4. Two more allies for you: FightTheSmears and Snopes
http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/fightthesmearsho...
http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=barack+Obama&getit...
Good luck and happy debunking.
It's a frickin' conspiracy of silence.
liberalmuse (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-15-08 10:28 PM
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6. Well, you've just about got step 1 down pat.
Edited on Tue Jul-15-08 10:29 PM by liberalmuse
That is, assuming whenever someone claiming to be from the right wing opens their mouth, that lies will spill forth. Step 2 is just a matter of finding the truth to counter all their bullshit with, which is easily found with a good search engine, which someone else has already suggested. Step 3 is being so armed with the facts that they aren't able to argue anymore so they start sulking in silence. These days I just go to Step 3 and shut the ****ers down before they can even start spilling their Fox-news-collected garbage. I did that today, when a 'pub was trying to tell me that the reason the economy is so bad right now is because of the terrorist attack back in 2001. Riiiiight.
Riiiight. Still no answers. Just dreams and delusions.
No one wants to risk being banned for answering the plea for help. I wonder why that is.
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Jukin has still never lost an argument with a liberal. In fact, it is they that leave spitting mad.
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I think debunking is "code" for sump'n else. :evillaugh:
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-15-08 10:17 PM
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1. First, Google Bill Ayers, find out who he is and who he's become in the 35 years since his "terrorist" days.
That's the way you counter "right wing critics" being parroted by somebody else who is too lazy to do his/her own research.
Sorry moonbat, he STILL isn't disassociating himself from it. From your fellow moonbat's link:
In the months before Ayers' memoir was published on September 10, 2001, the author gave numerous interviews with newspaper and magazine writers in which he defended his overall history of radical words and actions. Some of the resulting articles were written just before the September 11 terrorist attacks and appeared immediately after, including one often-noted article in The New York Times, and another in the Chicago Tribune. Numerous observations were made in the media comparing the statements Ayers was making about his own past just as a dramatic new terrorist incident shocked the public.
"We weren't terrorists," Ayers told an interviewer for the Chicago Tribune in 2001. "The reason we weren't terrorists is because we did not commit random acts of terror against people. Terrorism was what was being practiced in the countryside of Vietnam by the United States.
Damn you idiots are stupid. :whatever: