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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: CC27 on February 23, 2015, 04:50:38 PM
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Star Member riqster (12,692 posts)
Note to the lurking Righties:You are NOT a Conservative. Stop calling yourself one.
https://bluntandcranky.wordpress.com/2015/02/23/you-are-not-a-conservative-stop-calling-yourself-one/
Lots of source info at the link.
Unless you actually fit the definitionof a “Conservativeâ€:
noun
1: a person who believes in the value of established and traditional practices in politics and society : a person who is politically conservative.
2: a: one who adheres to traditional methods or views
b :a cautious or discreet person.
Sadly, most “conservative†Americans bear little or no resemblance to the agreed-upon meaning of the word. Some examples:
Number A: The “Reagan Revolutionâ€. Helpful hint: there is no such thing as a “conservative revolutionaryâ€. Real conservatives abominate the very idea of radical change. So all you NRA machine-gun nuts, anti-abortion screechers, morals policemen and theocrats are not one damned bit conservative.
Letter 2: Intentional ignorance is not at all “conservativeâ€, because existing knowledge is something built up over history, and thus part of our intellectual tradition. People who pretend that facts are debatable are not conservative; they are radicalized f***wits.
Thirdly: real conservatives respect the Constitution and its amendments. They do not advocate sedition, the violent overthrow of the government, secession, or unconstitutional disenfranchisement and/or discrimination against women, LGBT citizens, or non-whites.
And shut up with the “words can mean something different to me than you†horses***. The word means what it means, and all the NeoCons are doing is rebranding themselves so that people won’t see them as the violent, hateful, extremist, treasonous scum that they are. By changing the meaning of the word, a’la Orwell, the Raging Righties in Their Tightie Whities are trying to (and succeeding at) conning the populace into supporting them as they slowly slice our government’s throat.It’s lying, propagandizing, anti-American crap.
The crowning irony of all this: it is the Liberals who are actually trying to stop the right-wing, libertarian, teabagging revolutionaries from burning down and blowing up our democracy. Yes. Liberals (along with the few true centrists and other antidisestablishmentarianists remaining) have become modern America’s true conservatives, because they fit the definition.
Ain’t that some f***ed-up s***? But not as f***ed as all the crapnozzles who lie when they call themselves “conservativesâ€.
You caught us DUmmies. :whatever:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026266025
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OK, let's see what "Progressive" yields:
[pruh-gres-iv]
Spell Syllables
Synonyms Examples Word Origin
adjective
1. favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, especially in political matters:
Since DUmpmonkeys want to keep Blacks on the plantation, keep People of Colour on the dole and stop their possible success and wish to change the USA to the old Feudal system at best but more accurately fascism wherein their guy shoves dicta down the proletariat's throats, I would suggest they are REGRESSIVE, not PROGRESSIVE.
They are Pro-nothing.
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bluntandcranky.wordpress.com
Did anyone else stop reading after that?
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Sadly, most “conservative†Americans bear little or no resemblance to the agreed-upon meaning of the word. Some examples:
Number A: The “Reagan Revolutionâ€. Helpful hint: there is no such thing as a “conservative revolutionaryâ€. Real conservatives abominate the very idea of radical change. So all you NRA machine-gun nuts, anti-abortion screechers, morals policemen and theocrats are not one damned bit conservative.
You saying so does not make it a fact. It makes you a liar.
Letter 2: Intentional ignorance is not at all “conservativeâ€, because existing knowledge is something built up over history, and thus part of our intellectual tradition. People who pretend that facts are debatable are not conservative; they are radicalized f***wits.
WTF? Do you even know what you are trying to say? That was just a word salad, nothing more.
Thirdly: real conservatives respect the Constitution and its amendments. They do not advocate sedition, the violent overthrow of the government, secession, or unconstitutional disenfranchisement and/or discrimination against women, LGBT citizens, or non-whites.
The entirety of the Constitution, and the Declaration of Independence give us the right for secession and violent overthrow of the government if it is needed.
Besides, more of you lunatics talk about "the revolution" to come than on our side.
Show me where it says anything about carpet-munchers or poop-punchers in the US Constitution?
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Everytime I listen to a lib or DUmmie my life suffers.
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WTF? Do you even know what you are trying to say? That was just a word salad, nothing more.
He's telling us that because we debate global cooling warming climate change and the THEORY of evolution we're bad people.
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He's telling us that because we debate global cooling warming climate change and the THEORY of evolution we're bad people.
That they have to keep changing the goals on the climate debate tells people that they are wrong.
As for the THEORY of evolution, you are right. It's still a theory with no rock solid proof. In fact there are more arguments against it than for it.
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Nitpicky Word Games, Take 932!
Just another form of ad hominem attack, the resort of those who cannot or will not argue based on facts.
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And shut up with the “words can mean something different to me than you†horses***. The word means what it means, and all the NeoCons are doing is rebranding themselves so that people won’t see them as the violent, hateful, extremist, treasonous scum that they are. By changing the meaning of the word, a’la Orwell, the Raging Righties in Their Tightie Whities are trying to (and succeeding at) conning the populace into supporting them as they slowly slice our government’s throat.It’s lying, propagandizing, anti-American crap.
Conservatives are originalists. Liberals believe the Constitution is a living document, up for interpretation.
This moron's basic premise is wrong.
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Rickster is the DUmmy who'd find a kernel of corn in his shit, and think it makes him an expert on agriculture.
He is exactly the kind of useful idiot that will be shot and dumped in a ditch if his precious leftist revolution ever happens.
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Star Member riqster (12,692 posts)
Note to the lurking Righties:You are NOT a Conservative. Stop calling yourself one.
https://bluntandcranky.wordpress.com/2015/02/23/you-are-not-a-conservative-stop-calling-yourself-one/
Real conservatives abominate the very idea of radical change. So all you NRA machine-gun nuts, anti-abortion screechers, morals policemen and (removed due to inaccuracy, no one wants theocracy) are not one damned bit conservative.
Ignoring the very real truth that all these things have been changed in the last few decades, making us the ones upholding the traditional, historic values.
Letter 2: Intentional ignorance is not at all “conservativeâ€, because existing knowledge is something built up over history, and thus part of our intellectual tradition. People who pretend that facts are debatable are not conservative; they are radicalized f***wits.
No, actually they are leftists. Conservatives win all the arguments with real facts, not "true-for-me" statements. LOL
Thirdly: real conservatives respect the Constitution and its amendments. They do not advocate sedition, the violent overthrow of the government, secession, or unconstitutional disenfranchisement and/or discrimination against women, LGBT citizens, or non-whites.
Well, you actually got one mostly right. Way to go!And shut up with the “words can mean something different to me than you†horses***. The word means what it means, and all the Libs are doing is rebranding themselves so that people won’t see them as the violent, hateful, extremist, treasonous scum that they are. By changing the meaning of the word, a’la Orwell, the Raging Lefties in Their Tightie Whities are trying to (and succeeding at) conning the populace into supporting them as they slowly slice our government’s throat.It’s lying, propagandizing, anti-American crap.
Fixed it for you. :-)
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Isn't it amazing how liberals like to redefine words in the midst of debate.
For lurking liberals: You do not get to define who is or is not conservative. we do, not you.
here is a more accurate depiction
Liberal--> :hammer: <---Conservative
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Conservative = slower on the Reacharound ... :popcorn:
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Did anyone else stop reading after that?
...and started laughing.
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A liberal, in the truest sense of the word would not want any government regulation and would take the broadest interpretation of existing law. It could be claimed that gun control, as practiced by modern liberals, is not a liberal position.
To make my point, take any liberal discussion of gun control and exchange the word gun for abortion.
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Did anyone else stop reading after that?
I read about 3 lines farther, to see if the guy was going to try the moldy-oldy tack I thought he was. He did and I Face-Palmed. I think I first saw this "reasoning" the year I first started participating in Internet news/politics discussion sites, 1998, though I'm sure it wasn't original even back then. Moldy thread-bare stupidity is still stupidity.
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Fail. We're so conservative that we're going to keep calling ourselves Conservatives. Stick it in your ear and twist, riqster.
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If we are not conservative does that mean we need to change the domain name of this place to Right-WingLibertarianTeabaggingRevolutionariesCave.com?
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If we are not conservative does that mean we need to change the domain name of this place to Right-WingLibertarianTeabaggingRevolutionariesCave.com?
That would take a while to initially type in . . .
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Note to the communist asshole rigster :You are NOT a liberal/progressive. Stop calling yourself one.
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And shut up with the “words can mean something different to me than you†horses***. The word means what it means, and all the NeoCons are doing is rebranding themselves so that people won’t see them as the violent, hateful, extremist, treasonous scum that they are. By changing the meaning of the word, a’la Orwell, the Raging Righties in Their Tightie Whities are trying to (and succeeding at) conning the populace into supporting them as they slowly slice our government’s throat.It’s lying, propagandizing, anti-American crap.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4XT-l-_3y0[/youtube]
Nuff said!
Cindie
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Does the rickity primitive have the courage to say this at the DUmp?
riqster
Note to the lurking Trannies: you were born with a penis and testicles. Every cell in your body, every drop if your blood contains Y chromosomes.
You are NOT a Woman. Stop calling yourself one.
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Nuff said!
Cindie
I know, right ?
The last time I checked libs used any number of techniques from historical revision to political correctness to change the plain meaning of words.
Conservatives are accurate with their words and rely on their plain meaning.
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Everytime I listen to a lib or DUmmie my life suffers.
And a puppy dies.
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Bill & Monica / Huma & Hillery / Barack & Reggie :popcorn:
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Star Member riqster (12,692 posts)
Note to the lurking Righties:You are NOT a Conservative. Stop calling yourself one.
https://bluntandcranky.wordpress.com/2015/02/23/you-are-not-a-conservative-stop-calling-yourself-one/
Lots of source info at the link.
Unless you actually fit the definitionof a “Conservativeâ€:
noun
1: a person who believes in the value of established and traditional practices in politics and society : a person who is politically conservative.
2: a: one who adheres to traditional methods or views
b :a cautious or discreet person.
Sadly, most “conservative†Americans bear little or no resemblance to the agreed-upon meaning of the word. Some examples:
Number A: The “Reagan Revolutionâ€. Helpful hint: there is no such thing as a “conservative revolutionaryâ€. Real conservatives abominate the very idea of radical change. So all you NRA machine-gun nuts, anti-abortion screechers, morals policemen and theocrats are not one damned bit conservative.
Letter 2: Intentional ignorance is not at all “conservativeâ€, because existing knowledge is something built up over history, and thus part of our intellectual tradition. People who pretend that facts are debatable are not conservative; they are radicalized f***wits.
Thirdly: real conservatives respect the Constitution and its amendments. They do not advocate sedition, the violent overthrow of the government, secession, or unconstitutional disenfranchisement and/or discrimination against women, LGBT citizens, or non-whites.
And shut up with the “words can mean something different to me than you†horses***. The word means what it means, and all the NeoCons are doing is rebranding themselves so that people won’t see them as the violent, hateful, extremist, treasonous scum that they are. By changing the meaning of the word, a’la Orwell, the Raging Righties in Their Tightie Whities are trying to (and succeeding at) conning the populace into supporting them as they slowly slice our government’s throat.It’s lying, propagandizing, anti-American crap.
The crowning irony of all this: it is the Liberals who are actually trying to stop the right-wing, libertarian, teabagging revolutionaries from burning down and blowing up our democracy. Yes. Liberals (along with the few true centrists and other antidisestablishmentarianists remaining) have become modern America’s true conservatives, because they fit the definition.
Ain’t that some f***ed-up s***? But not as f***ed as all the crapnozzles who lie when they call themselves “conservativesâ€.
Wait... what? **scratches head** So is the Dummie trying to say they are conservatives and we are liberals now? :mental:
I guess I need to take a refresher course on DumpLogic.
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Wait... what? **scratches head** So is the Dummie trying to say they are conservatives and we are liberals now? :mental:
I guess I need to take a refresher course on DumpLogic.
Anything to avoid being called proglodytes.