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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: CC27 on February 23, 2015, 12:45:20 PM
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Star Member madfloridian (82,957 posts)
Liberals have been right on so many things. We have not deserved to be marginalized.
I know what one response will be. Something along the line of "what's right is relative."
No, not always.
We spoke up before the Iraq invasion. We said it was based on lies. We often made the point that invading a country that had not harmed us, hanging it's leader, killing his sons and parading their bodies on TV was a dangerous thing to do. We said it would destabilize the middle east.
Guess what?
We pointed out that cutting taxes during an invasion/war would be harmful to our country.
We have said it is wrong to balance our budget on the backs of seniors, the needy, the disabled. We forgot to beg them to take care of our returning veterans...we just assumed they would. Cuts have been made, more are coming. Democrats mostly went along with the right wing thinking they would win elections that way.
They didn't.
It is wrong to use the rights of women as a political football. We have yelled and screamed about their trying to restrict access to birth control and abortion. Too many Democrats allowed the right to use that issue, and some even went along with the draconian restrictions.
I won't include the free and equal public school issue. Even I realize that the damage is done. I just never believed that our party would join the GOP in making public school teachers the enemy.
In 1998 the head of one of the centrist think tanks said:
I've got bad news for the President's opponents in both parties: New Democrats are winning the battle for their party's soul. New Democrats, not liberals, will be the party's dominant force in the 21st century.
I say to remember 2010 and 2014. Didn't look so dominant.
Another centrist Democrat, Evan Bayh, said in 2003:
“The Democratic Party is at risk of being taken over by the far left,†he told DLC members in 2003. “We have an important choice to make: Do we want to vent, or do we want to govern?â€
Well, Evan Bayh, you can't govern if you don't win. We have vented, no one listened because liberals are the lesser.
These same folks began to use the word "elitist" to refer to the left. My long ago comments on that:
A concerted effort to put down those in the party who are educated, informed, and financially okay....is showing me that something is wrong our party's health.
Observe one thing...the ones using this derogatory term are themselves the wealthiest, the most powerful financially.
The "elite" are calling the ones who want to start bringing the people back into the party's decisions and structure....elitist.
When I go to the Google News page I can see the drums beating for a Middle East war. I don't watch TV news stations because the drums beat louder there. Seems the media is leading us into a new war, shock and awe all over again.
This time I hear some Democratic voices talking back about it. I believe they are doing it because in spite of the scorn they have had for liberals, they are hearing our voices a little louder now.
Another high post count DUmmie i have never seen before.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026263808
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It looks like analysis to me but from some alternate world. The liberals are clearly setting the agenda and even if they don't get everything they want, they are still moving the country further left.
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I've got bad news for the President's opponents in both parties: New Democrats are winning the battle for their party's soul. New Democrats, not liberals, will be the party's dominant force in the 21st century.
That's fine. I am ok with a democrat in office as long as they don't go all liberal on the country. You also have to admit the Republican's were right about everything on Obama. Healthcare for example. We told you how bad it was going to be but you didn't believe it. :rant:
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Liberals say this country is headed to hell in a hand basket...and they're right....they should know because they're the ones carrying the hand basket.
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The unheard of high post count DUmmie claims to be part of the democratic party.
That party is non existent and only imaginary in a virulent lib's mind.
The rest of his/her/it's story is equally as real.
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When you start off with the basis of your thesis is 1+1=POTATO everything following is wrong.
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When you start off with the basis of your thesis is 1+1=POTATO everything following is wrong.
How about 2 + 2 ?...
http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2015/02/23/225-dhs-secretary-says-dems-are-not-blocking-his-funding-bill/ (http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2015/02/23/225-dhs-secretary-says-dems-are-not-blocking-his-funding-bill/)
They are saying that dems aren't blocking legislation so that it will look like conservatives want to shut down the government.
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Another high post count DUmmie i have never seen before.
I've seen said DUmmie. Pretty much run-of-the-mill for them.