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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on February 19, 2015, 01:53:11 PM
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Trick question- we all know it's anyside but ours.
Turborama (21,578 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141018109
RAF jets intercept Russian bomber aircraft off Cornwall (UK)
Demeter (77,749 posts)
1. Turnabout is fair play
They aren't breaking any rules. They are doing EXACTLY what the US and NATO does, and all of a sudden, it's an international incident?
Such hypocrisy!
Russia threatening Britian was they overrun the Ukraine... turn about is fair play!
Fred Sanders (10,254 posts)
3. It is the media forwarding government war talk and creating tension..it is what they do to control thought.
Sound familiar?
Only the West is allowed to test rival perimeter security..the fact Russia is NOT a military enemy anymore is give NATO a great sad...no enemies, no NATO.
Russia is not our enemy. The west is our enemy! [/DU]
olddad56 (4,197 posts)
50. we do that every day, and have since the 50s.
::)
Number9Dream (769 posts)
42. Yes, they are breaking rules...
"Sources said the Russian planes were flying without their transponders turned on, making them invisible to civilian aircraft. A number of flights arriving in Britain had to be diverted to avoid potential disaster."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/defence/11378119/UK-summons-Russian-ambassador-after-dangerous-bombers-disrupt-civil-aircraft.html
Any proof / links that "NATO is doing exactly the same thing"?
oh, dear... you fell into the mole trap of supporting the west with facts and reality...
Fred Sanders (10,254 posts)
11. When exactly did Russia become a mortal enemy again and the Cold War start anew? Sabre rattling in Maui is.....strange. And it only seems to be Russia.
they never stopped. You leftists just 'forgot'
Android3.14 (2,036 posts)
47. Fred is uninterested in actual dialogue
He equates a nuclear capable bomber encroaching on Cornwall as an appropriate response to our supposed flights into Russian air space, without even showing we've been doing that lately. I'm sure if Russia caught us or the RAF doing these types of maneuvers, they would be squawking left and right. So where is the proof, Fred?
I wonder how Mr. Sanders would react if someone armed with a bazooka was sneaking around in his back yard. Would he think that was just hunky-dory?
Of course not, unless he is a crazy person.
I'm betting he is other-motivated.
MattSh (2,541 posts)
26. A lot of people are channelling a well known Republican...
they might not see Russia, but they certainly see this....
maybe because republicans are not blinded by their politics.
MattSh (2,541 posts)
28. So would the USA....
Game Over !!!
Besides, that's certainly NOT what the Brits are concerned about. Electronic eavesdropping is the name of the game.
And, the USA restarted the Cold War Crap.
But but... Barry had Hillary push the reset button!
Fred Sanders (10,254 posts)
36. America has a military presence or actual bases in 133 countries and spies on them all.
The world is far more concerned about America's 10 fold military advantage over Russia. Who should be more frightened?
The world is actually a lot bigger than America, some places even have different opinions about America than Americans do.....shocking, but true.
Fred Sanders (10,254 posts)
18. Why are you a MIC apologist? Why not question the propaganda? On Russia and Putin only, the media is telling the gospel truth? Everything else they lie about?
"The scary Russians, the scary ISIS, the scary Iran...etc. etc." Same con game, same exploitation of the reptilian brain.
That is called "tunnel vision".
I am consistent in questioning the media information, across the board, across all the issues, some are not.
Fred Sanders (10,254 posts)
23. Are you scared? Then mission accomplished for the UK con government.
America has 6000 nuclear weapons, thousands surrounding Russia..maybe this routine incident should spark a conversation on another issue?
France and UK hundreds more....Israel, hundreds more....
JPZenger (6,601 posts)
60. The Brits should have sent up Sophwith Camels to deal with prop bombers
The Russian Bears are ancient propeller-drive planes. I'm amazed they are still able to fly to the UK.
They work. Why waste money on new shit if the old shit works. We still fly A-10s.
:whistling:
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Having a weak president in the White Mosque has emboldened commies the world over and made this a less safe world.
Japan for the first time since WWII, is seriously strengthening their only military in response to aggression from China, because Barry sides with our enemies instead of our allies.
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MattSh (2,541 posts)
28. So would the USA....
Game Over !!!
Besides, that's certainly NOT what the Brits are concerned about. Electronic eavesdropping is the name of the game.
And, the USA restarted the Cold War Crap.
Who is the (P)resident of the United States, DUmmy?
Your fellow primitives are mashing that "report" button as we speak. You ain't long for the DUmp, monkey.
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JPZenger (6,601 posts)
60. The Brits should have sent up Sophwith Camels to deal with prop bombers
The Russian Bears are ancient propeller-drive planes. I'm amazed they are still able to fly to the UK.
Well, you are an idiot. The Tu95 maxes out at 575 mph, with a one-way range of over 9,000 miles. The B52 only goes 70 mph faster with a similar range but supported by a midair refueling fleet structure the Russians lack. Neither one can outrun even a high-subsonic interception, let alone a missile or a true supersonic interceptor. Its biggest drawback is that it's reportedly as noisy inside as it is outside, but the Russians have never given a rat's ass about crew comfort.
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Well, you are an idiot. The Tu95 maxes out at 575 mph, with a one-way range of over 9,000 miles. The B52 only goes 70 mph faster with a similar range but supported by a midair refueling fleet structure the Russians lack. Neither one can outrun even a high-subsonic interception, let alone a missile or a true supersonic interceptor. Its biggest drawback is that it's reportedly as noisy inside as it is outside, but the Russians have never given a rat's ass about crew comfort.
That's even if it's a Bear. It could be a Blinder, Badger, Buffalo etc.
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That's even if it's a Bear. It could be a Blinder, Badger, Buffalo etc.
Supposedly, they were Bears.
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Supposedly, they were Bears.
With Dummies you never know.
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They work. Why waste money on new shit if the old shit works. We still fly A-10s.
:whistling:
We still fly B-52's, which have been around since the 50's.
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We still fly B-52's, which have been around since the 50's.
C-130's, KC-135, P-3, U-2, T-38
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dd & CH, people in the US have their minds in the consumer mentality of having the latest whatever. Most DU-folk are probably tapping away on their new or year-old iMacs, Mac Books, iPhones, and iPads, little thinking that many USAF and USN assets are 1950s designs built in the 1960s and 1970s. And the A-10s are a 1960s design built into the early 1980s. They couldn't imagine commuting daily to work - those who have jobs - in a mid-60s Chevy Impala or a mid-70s Toyota Corona.
Bear or Stratofortress, if it's operational and can deliver its payload, its age doesn't much matter.
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DUmmie Solution: Get in front of the Russian bear and drop pots of honey.
Rightwing solution: Shoot it down and claim they were stealing your bullets and got overloaded.