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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on February 14, 2015, 10:41:50 AM
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EEO (982 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251395235
A president without a diploma?
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/president-without-diploma?cid=sm_fb_maddow
...Alan Flippen recently looked at recent history and noted that Walker, whether he wins or loses, would be the “first major candidate†to run for president without at least a Bachelor’s degree since then-Sen. Paul Simon (D-Ill.) in 1988.
If Walker gets the GOP nomination, he’d be the first major-party nominee to not have a college degree since then-Sen. Barry Goldwater’s (R-Ariz.) unsuccessful campaign in 1964.
And if Walker is elected to the White House, he’d be the first president without a degree since Harry Truman. (Truman is also the only president since the 19th century to serve as president without at least a Bachelor’s. Truman, of course, was elevated to the office after FDR died. The last time Americans elected a new president who didn’t have a degree? McKinley in 1896.)
Whether or not this is an important part of the campaign is largely up to voters – people will either care or they won’t...
if it is so improtaint that a college education is a must to be president why don't we see Barry's college transcripts? Surely that would prove he is the most intellegent man ever to be president!
Jamaal510 (7,835 posts)
2. At last...a potential presidential candidate who never caved to the liberal college professor elites.
OR--- a potential president who is like over 60% of the citizens of this country.
Downwinder (10,118 posts)
8. Shrub had degrees from Yale and Harvard.
Look at what that got us.
MADem (108,158 posts)
9. His daddy bought those, though--and his sheepskin from Phillips Andover, too.
His teachers make no bones about how stooo-pid he was.
President Bush, who is routinely derided as a "moron" by embittered Democrats, earned slightly better grades at Yale University than Sen. John Kerry, the supposed Massachusetts intellectual.
According to college transcripts from the top Ivy League school obtained by the Boston Globe, Kerry was well on his way to flunking out during his freshmen year, receiving no fewer than four D's.
Kerry's intellectual deficit revealed itself in geology, two history courses and, most surprisingly for a top politician, political science. "I always told my dad that D stood for distinction," the failed presidential candidate told reporters.
He showed a slight improvement in subsequent semesters, topping out with an 81 average his senior year. Kerry had a cumulative average of 76, or what some might call "a gentleman's C."
The president received just one D in his freshman year - a 69 in astronomy - to Kerry's four. His cumulative grade point average was 77 - a point higher than Kerry's.
Last year, when an analysis of Kerry's Navy aptitude test showed that Bush actually had a higher IQ, the top Democrat blamed his lackluster performance on drinking.
"I must have been drinking the night before I took that military aptitude test," Kerry told NBC anchorman Tom Brokaw.
President Bush suffered the same type of derision during the 2000 campaign, when critics regularly portrayed him as intellectually inferior to Al Gore.
Gore attended divinity school after graduating from Harvard in June of 1969 with a Bachelor of Arts degree. But transcripts from Vanderbilt University showed that he received F's in five of the eight classes he took over the course of three semesters.
Gore left Vanderbilt without receiving a degree.
Thor_MN (7,083 posts)
13. From what I have read, he left during the last semester of his senior year.
He obviously would have had to pay for it, so money isn't likely the reason. No one seems to know, or at least isn't coming forward at this point to say why he left. Some have speculated that he was asked to leave for cheating (would not be surprising, given his record in politics), but I don't know that has been confirmed.
I seriously doubt he will make it through the debates. He always looks like he just ran into a sigh post, his eyes are too close together and often seem to not track together. Then again, with the anti-education conservatives, he might be a hit.
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/article/2013/dec/18/scott-walker-early-years/
Twenty-five years later, the state Democratic Party’s website alleges that "Scott Walker was kicked out of student elections at Marquette University after masterminding a scheme that destroyed newspapers critical of him."
The post adds: "Walker either dropped out or was forced out not long after."
Let’s start with "forced out" of school.
Mike Tate, chairman of the state Democrats, told us the party based its post on unnamed sources who he said had privately passed on information about possible "nefarious activity" that Tate did not describe.
Those parties would be reluctant to talk to a reporter, he said. The allegation is defensible, said Tate, because the party is trying to raise questions about the "mystery" of Walker’s departure.
That’s a flimsy case, at best. At worst, it suggests a possible fictional smear.
Others who have publicly pushed theories of a cheating scandal or of Walker flunking out also provide no proof or admit they have only questions.
"I wish I could say definitely why he never graduated," wrote Glen Barry in an often-quoted May 2012 blog post in which he endorsed the "caught cheating" theory of Walker’s exit.
We asked Walker if he was "forced out" of Marquette for any reason.
"I can say unequivocally that isn’t true," Walker said.
Many of Walker’s friends from the period declined interviews for this story, but we spoke with Quigley, Walker and other students, teachers and administrators -- Walker critics and backers alike -- and examined volumes of university files on the election and other matters from the period.
We heard nothing -- and found no evidence -- suggesting Walker was pushed out of the university.
But publicly available documents cannot fully resolve the question, in part because a federal privacy law blocks release of information on former students unless the person consents. In addition, Walker told us he was sticking to an earlier decision not to release his transcript.
With that in mind, we asked Walker if he would allow Marquette to comment on his academic and conduct record. He did.
"Gov. Scott Walker was a student at Marquette from fall of 1986 until spring 1990 and was a senior in good standing when he voluntarily withdrew from Marquette," the university said in a statement.
That means that no conduct issues, academic or otherwise, blocked Walker from continuing in school at the time of his departure, MU spokesman Brian Dorrington told us in early December 2013.
When we asked Dorrington whether any conduct issues were on Walker’s earlier school record, he said Walker would have to permit release of that information. Walker did so in response to our request.
"Governor Walker was in good standing each term while he was enrolled at Marquette University and when he left Marquette University," Associate Vice Provost Anne Deahl said in a letter. "Governor Walker was not expelled or suspended from the university at any time."
Finally, there’s another problem with the Democratic Party’s claims.
According to MU, Walker left school after the spring semester in 1990. That’s more than two years after the 1988 election, instead of the "not long after" the Dems claim.
angrychair (619 posts)
14. What a slug
To think him and his cadre of asshats who run his agencies lack the most basic requirement for the lowest IT tech at their department of health to the director of finance at their dept of natural resources...a college degree. Most people would not even have the ability to interview for a job without a degree. In f**king Wisconsin they make you governor....
All Rebublicans must be painted by the left as idiots and frauds. It's the only way that the idiots and frauds on the left can win.
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Hey Proglodytes,
Which is worse:
Being under-educated?
Constantly losing to the under-educated?
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One of the most unhinged individuals in our country Howard "Yeeawwww" Dean is raising a stink.
The guy is a physician, allegedly.
Proving yet again, it's not what you have it's what you do with it.
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From a group of creatures that daily admit they can`t make it through life without someone or some government entity holding their hands. :whatever:
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Response to EEO (Original post)Fri Feb 13, 2015, 11:13 PM
Star Member jwirr (27,562 posts)
1. JFK could have done a good job without one simply because of the way he chose to rule. He
surrounded himself with brilliant advisers and heads of agencies. I cannot imagine Scott Walker being about to find that many brilliant Rs.
That's how the braindead bootlicking DUmmies see the president--a ruler.
(http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i475/Delmar59/imperial-obama-decree_zpsd76c3fd8.jpeg) (http://s1095.photobucket.com/user/Delmar59/media/imperial-obama-decree_zpsd76c3fd8.jpeg.html)
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And what has owebuma "surrounded" himself with ?
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And what has owebuma "surrounded" himself with ?
mirrors
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And what has owebuma "surrounded" himself with ?
Servile morons who serve do his bidding without question who also double as impeachment insurance.
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Response to EEO (Original post)Fri Feb 13, 2015, 11:13 PM
Star Member jwirr (27,562 posts)
1. JFK could have done a good job without one simply because of the way he chose to rule. He
surrounded himself with brilliant advisers and heads of agencies. I cannot imagine Scott Walker being about to find that many brilliant Rs.
His arrogant little brother as AG.
McNamara as Defense Secretary.
Really?
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For people who want to brag about how smart their own field is, they seem strangely reluctant to have Hitlery's grad work released, or see Emperor Obozo's grades.
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DU, an island were all are educated beyond their means.
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Education has nothing to do with intelligence, obviously.
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A lot of people are waking up to the fact that perhaps college is a load of crap. Like all the people with $200K in debt, taking orders at Starbucks. I learned way more accounting my first year on the job, than I ever did getting my bachelors in accounting. Scott Walker is just a damn good manager. He's competent and he executes. He gets results.
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Education has nothing to do with intelligence, obviously.
Obviously.
(http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i475/Delmar59/6a00d8341c630a53ef013486a73dbf970c-500wi_zpsac2e09ce.jpg) (http://s1095.photobucket.com/user/Delmar59/media/6a00d8341c630a53ef013486a73dbf970c-500wi_zpsac2e09ce.jpg.html)
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The MSM tried this with Regan and Bush and it failed miserably. They should try something new, maybe a Rethuglican war on puppies or somesuch.
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EEO (982 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251395235
A president without a diploma?
yeah DUmmy and for all his alleged college years obama thinks there are 57 states in the United States. ::)
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Response to EEO (Original post)Sat Feb 14, 2015, 06:09 AM
Thor_MN (7,090 posts)
13. From what I have read, he left during the last semester of his senior year.
He obviously would have had to pay for it, so money isn't likely the reason. No one seems to know, or at least isn't coming forward at this point to say why he left. Some have speculated that he was asked to leave for cheating (would not be surprising, given his record in politics), but I don't know that has been confirmed.
I seriously doubt he will make it through the debates. He always looks like he just ran into a sigh post, his eyes are too close together and often seem to not track together. Then again, with the anti-education conservatives, he might be a hit.
:rotf: "sigh post". Idiot.
The MSM tried this with Regan and Bush and it failed miserably. They should try something new, maybe a Rethuglican war on puppies or somesuch.
The MSM is also trying the "gotcha" game over evolution but only on their opponents, of course.
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Obama supposedly has college degrees, but has never proven it. Still, when he is without his teleprompter, he sounds and is a
SCOAMF
Stuttering Cluster**** of a Miserable Failure.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SCoaMF
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A lot of people are waking up to the fact that perhaps college is a load of crap. Like all the people with $200K in debt, taking orders at Starbucks. I learned way more accounting my first year on the job, than I ever did getting my bachelors in accounting. Scott Walker is just a damn good manager. He's competent and he executes. He gets results.
Not to mention with the cost of education, students and often their parents are essentially demanding that they "get" good grades too. No matter the performance in class or actually earning good grades.
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Servile morons who serve do his bidding without question who also double as impeachment insurance.
From an insufferable douchebag who repeatedly considers himself a better (Insert Anything Here) than (Insert Anyone Here).
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Walker is smart, vetted and conservative. He's been vetted 6 ways to Sunday. I so want to see him run against anyone the dems put up. He'll wipe the floor with them. I've played this game before. Walker could easily be this generation's Reagan.
Cindie
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OK, three points, in (hopefully) brief:
Governor Walker was smart enough to figure out that government unions were a big of WI's budget woes, and do something about it.
Governor Walker was smart enough to defeat a union-paid recall election, and a union-paid reelection campaign.
After two failed efforts to oust Governor Walker, if there was dirt to be had on him, the unions would have found it! The union researchers probably know more about Governor Walker and his family than he does.
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OK, three points, in (hopefully) brief:
Governor Walker was smart enough to figure out that government unions were a big of WI's budget woes, and do something about it.
Governor Walker was smart enough to defeat a union-paid recall election, and a union-paid reelection campaign.
After two failed efforts to oust Governor Walker, if there was dirt to be had on him, the unions would have found it! The union researchers probably know more about Governor Walker and his family than he does.
Won't matter. The MSM will hint around, make up stuff wholesale with the disclaimer "unnamed sources say", etc. until it takes it's toll on Walker's campaign.
What all this really means is that the dems are scared to death of him.
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Response to EEO (Original post)Fri Feb 13, 2015, 11:13 PM
Star Member jwirr (27,562 posts)
1. JFK could have done a good job without one simply because of the way he chose to rule. He
surrounded himself with brilliant advisers and heads of agencies. I cannot imagine Scott Walker being about to find that many brilliant Rs.
Yeah, like Robert McNamara and the Dulles Brothers...all of whom brilliantly managed the Bay of Pigs fiasco and the gigantically lethal Charlie Foxtrot of Viet Nam, with ten times the American dead of the War on Terror.
:banghead:
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Won't matter. The MSM will hint around, make up stuff wholesale with the disclaimer "unnamed sources say", etc. until it takes it's toll on Walker's campaign.
What all this really means is that the dems are scared to death of him.
I'm surprised they haven't brought up all the bogus investigations that were fueled by liberal DAs or whatever. The investigations that went nowhere because they were unfounded and politically motivated.
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I'm surprised they haven't brought up all the bogus investigations that were fueled by liberal DAs or whatever. The investigations that went nowhere because they were unfounded and politically motivated.
Just wait... if Walker gets the GOP nomination expect to see it every nite on the ABC,CBS,NBC 6:30pm news until after the election. :cheersmate:
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Won't matter. The MSM will hint around, make up stuff wholesale with the disclaimer "unnamed sources say", etc. until it takes it's toll on Walker's campaign.
What all this really means is that the dems are scared to death of him.
He's already proved he can take them on and is willing to go around him. They tried to do it already, even on a national level during his election, his recall election and reelection. He won't let them get away with it. That's part of the reason for his success. It's like that stupid evolution question. He just told them he wasn't there to discuss it and went on. They tried to make hay about it but it didn't work. He's smart enough to not fall into their trap. Now they're on to his lack of college education. Rather than be a drawback, I think this will actually be an asset. The entire country is damn tired of elites who want to rule instead of govern. He's one of us and that could be his biggest asset. He's nowhere near an inside the beltway guy. No one they could run on the left, even the fake Indian and that socialist Bernie Sanders can touch that. Hell, with the exception of Rick Perry, no one on our side can either. I don't think a Senator or Representative can win. That's where 0bama came from and he can't govern. That body will be suspect for a while. Though there are plenty that would make good VP candidates.
Cindie
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Just wait... if Walker gets the GOP nomination expect to see it every nite on the ABC,CBS,NBC 6:30pm news until after the election. :cheersmate:
They would be stupid to do that because it shows how vicious and vindictive they are. Ordinary people had police bust open their doors and take their computers and other belongings. Imagine a commercial just like the "Romney killed my wife" one, only substitute DA's & union thugs. As long as Walker doesn't allow himself to be handled by the losers who ran the McCain Romney campaigns he'll be fine.
Cindie
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The owebumaManiaMedia long knives are really starting to come out...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2015/02/14/gail-collins-ny-times-op-ed-scott-walker-cut-teachers-jobs-2010-he-was (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2015/02/14/gail-collins-ny-times-op-ed-scott-walker-cut-teachers-jobs-2010-he-was)
The more they attack Walker, impotently I might add, the more admiration I have for him and a potential presidential run.
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The owebumaManiaMedia long knives are really starting to come out...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2015/02/14/gail-collins-ny-times-op-ed-scott-walker-cut-teachers-jobs-2010-he-was (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2015/02/14/gail-collins-ny-times-op-ed-scott-walker-cut-teachers-jobs-2010-he-was)
The more they attack Walker, impotently I might add, the more admiration I have for him and a potential presidential run.
Story proved false but allows the left splash a screen shot of the op-ed "Walker cut teachers jobs" in commercials during the general election.
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Story proved false but allows the left splash a screen shot of the op-ed "Walker cut teachers jobs" in commercials during the general election.
If libs didn't have false narratives, they would be left with nothing but the truth to tell.
And we can't have that now, can we ?
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Story proved false but allows the left splash a screen shot of the op-ed "Walker cut teachers jobs" in commercials during the general election.
Exactly. Anything dissing Walker will be on the front page, retraction will be on page 14e.
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Exactly. Anything dissing Walker will be on the front page, retraction will be on page 14e.
The 5 on FOX talked about the retraction today. It was a couple of sentences.