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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Carl on February 05, 2015, 09:44:38 AM
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Wed Feb 4, 2015, 11:45 PM
Star Member MannyGoldstein (30,339 posts)
Burning people to death. Didn't Christians do that a few years back?
For being "witches" and whatnot?
And my own peeps, the Jews, had a few episodes way back that sound roughly in line with what ISIS is doing, e.g. Samuel 15:
"Thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘I have noted what Amalek did to Israel in opposing them on the way when they came up out of Egypt. Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’ â€
No, I'm not saying that killing for the Lord is OK. Rather, I don't think that killing for the Lord is exclusive of any particular religion. In fact, I don't think it's part of any real religion; killing is killing, and some religious claptrap is sometimes used as an excuse, just as "God's will" is used to explain away all sorts of suffering and exploitation.
I prefer Abraham Lincoln's religion, it avoids this kind of suffering:
"When I do good, I feel good. When I do bad, I feel bad. That's my religion."
- Abraham Lincoln
Peace.
God these slugs are idiots.
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 11:49 PM
Star Member cwydro (15,357 posts)
1. Suspected witches were never burned in this country,
despite popular belief.
However, Queen Mary did a lot of nasty burning of Protestants (not witches) during her reign.
But that was more than "a few years back."
Yeah,but what do facts have to do with anything at the DUmp?
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 11:53 PM
hugo_from_TN (1,038 posts)
5. Yes in the 13th century
Which is why most of us would like the Muslim religion (extremists, excuse me), to move to the 21st century post haste.
Response to hugo_from_TN (Reply #5)
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 07:26 AM
MattSh (2,459 posts)
34. There were very few Muslim extremists until...
the USA started creating them by the thousands beginning about 30 years ago.
The Iranian hostage situation was in 1979-1980.
Who was President then?
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 12:32 AM
Star Member whathehell (14,619 posts)
15. If by a "few" years you mean 500 or so..
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 01:00 AM
cpwm17 (2,545 posts)
20. Many Christians still fantasize about non-believers burning in Hell
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 01:37 AM
Dragonfli (7,366 posts)
21. Christians are doing it now, with hellfire missiles and white phosphorous upon occassion
I am willing to bet some of them follow other "faiths" as well. Our killers are hired without prejudice regarding what fairy tails they use to justify how what they do is holy and good.
Sometimes they even hit the odd one or two that are actually combatants used to justify the burnings along with the civilians.
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 04:43 AM
JVS (61,815 posts)
31. Tu quoque is a shitty and fallacious argument and using it to defend burning people alive is...
so mindblowingly stupid that I cannot fathom why you'd do it.
Look around you and then ask yourself what should you expect.
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 05:16 AM
leftynyc (14,138 posts)
33. If you consider hundreds of years
a few years back - which I don't. Just another thread trying to downplay what isis is all about because Islam must be protected at all costs.
leftynyc has recently begun to sense that the smell of shit might just be from the sewer it is living in.
Response to leftynyc (Reply #33)
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 08:05 AM
Star Member MannyGoldstein (30,339 posts)
42. First off, the KKK lynched thousands of Americans much more recently
A self-proclaimed Christian group with a (burning) cross as their symbol.
Second - which Christian scriptures have changed over the past 500 years?
Shut up Manny,you have already shown that a worm drying on a sunny sidewalk is smarter then you.
They show their evil more and more every day.
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Soo much stupid, where to start...
Star Member MannyGoldstein (30,339 posts)
Burning people to death. Didn't Christians do that a few years back?
For being "witches" and whatnot?
And my own peeps, the Jews, had a few episodes way back that sound roughly in line with what ISIS is doing, e.g. Samuel 15:
"Thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘I have noted what Amalek did to Israel in opposing them on the way when they came up out of Egypt. Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’ â€
And what happened, Minimind Manny?
Saul DIDN'T do as God commanded, because he spared "the best of the sheep, and of the oxen, and of the fatlings, and the lambs, and all that was good, and wold not utterly destroy them, but every thing that was vile and refuse, that he utterly destroyed." (Samuel 15:9)
As a result, Saul never became king of Israel, because he disobeyed the Lord. God wanted everything destroyed, because it was unclean, and as such, would corrupt the people of Israel.
BTW, didn't the Romans lay waste to all the territory they concurred? I seem to recall they would poison the wells and salt the earth as they left, so as to insure the land stayed barren.
cpwm17 (2,545 posts)
20. Many Christians still fantasize about non-believers burning in Hell
What fantasy? You don't believe there is a Heaven or a Hell? Would you prefer to live life as if there IS a God, and find out that there isn't, or would you prefer to live life as if there is no God, and find out that He is?
Pascal's Wager set out to prove the existence of God thru logic, it goes something like this:
"If you believe in God, and there is no God, you've lost nothing."
"If you believe in God, and there is a God, you've gained everything."
"If you don't believe in god, and there is a God, you've lost everything."
Dragonfli (7,366 posts)
21. Christians are doing it now, with hellfire missiles and white phosphorous upon occassion
First, Barry is the finger on the trigger of the Hellfire missiles, and,
second, what makes you think Barry is a christian?
Star Member MannyGoldstein (30,339 posts)
42. First off, the KKK lynched thousands of Americans much more recently
A self-proclaimed Christian group with a (burning) cross as their symbol.
First off, the KKK was a self-proclaimed DEMOCRAT group, regardless of what symbol they used. ISIS could use a fuzzy kitten as their symbol, it wouldn't make them any less despised, or deadly.
Second - which Christian scriptures have changed over the past 500 years?
Answer, none. Many different translations have transpired over the years, but the scriptures (and their messages) have remained the same.
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Response to hugo_from_TN (Reply #5)
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 07:26 AM
MattSh (2,459 posts)
34. There were very few Muslim extremists until...
the USA started creating them by the thousands beginning about 30 years ago.
The Iranian hostage situation was in 1979-1980.
Who was President then?
The Munich massacre was in '72. What US policies "caused" that terrorist act?
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The Munich massacre was in '72. What US policies "caused" that terrorist act?
And don't forget the Mufti of Jerusalem being all buddy - buddy with Mr. Hitler back in the 30's and 40's because he agreed with what old Adolph had planned for the Jewish people.
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I have never seen so many unAmerican pieces of crap in my life. Mnd Boggling! :(
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I can go kill someone in the Name of Joe Biden if I want. Does that mean Joe Biden commanded me to do so or has even set a precedent by example of doing so? No....
So lets look at the two religions and their Prophets and ask ourselves a few simple questions:
Did Jesus ever command or set a precedent by example of killing or violent acts? No
Did Mohammed ever command or set a precedent by example of killing or violent acts? Yes
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Manny is the man.
With a little perseverance he could put himself in the running for the coveted DOTY.
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Manny is the man.
With a little perseverance he could put himself in the running for the coveted DOTY.
Now, you know my good pal Manny's just got a sense of humor, and is trying to twit the primitives.
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Manny's post fails because he failed to highlight the Crusades or the Inquisition.
He also failed to try and link Nazism to Christianity like other Dummies do.
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Manny's post fails because he failed to highlight the Crusades or the Inquisition.
He also failed to try and link Nazism to Christianity like other Dummies do.
Really, essentially it failed because the primitives are a bunch of sour-assed prissy self-righteous rectal apertures who don't have a sense of humor.
Damn, the primitives make Ebenezer Scrooge look jovial.
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I can go kill someone in the Name of Joe Biden if I want. Does that mean Joe Biden commanded me to do so or has even set a precedent by example of doing so? No....
So lets look at the two religions and their Prophets and ask ourselves a few simple questions:
Did Jesus ever command or set a precedent by example of killing or violent acts? No
Did Mohammed ever command or set a precedent by example of killing or violent acts? Yes
Would that be via Joe's preferred method, double barreled shotgun blast through the door?
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Would that be via Joe's preferred method, double barreled shotgun blast through the door?
Naah--it'd be a double-barreled shotgun blast off a balcony into the air. :whistling: :fuelfire: :tongue: