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Title: Canadian Court Orders U.S. Army Deserter To Be DEPORTED
Post by: Bluesuiter-Retired on July 15, 2008, 10:10:21 AM
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080714.wwardeserter0714/BNStory/National/?page=rss&id=RTGAM.20080714.wwardeserter0714

'bout damned time!

When he gets to Ft Knox, the armor school folks ought to tie to 4 M-1s and pull his arms and legs off, then send his family a bill for the fuel and the rope they used.
Title: Re: Canadian Court Orders U.S. Army Deserter To Be DEPORTED
Post by: BlueStateSaint on July 15, 2008, 10:31:51 AM
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080714.wwardeserter0714/BNStory/National/?page=rss&id=RTGAM.20080714.wwardeserter0714

'bout damned time!

When he gets to Ft Knox, the armor school folks ought to tie to 4 M-1s and pull his arms and legs off, then send his family a bill for the fuel and the rope they used.


Using four horses would be much cheaper.  It would probably take longer, too.  :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Canadian Court Orders U.S. Army Deserter To Be DEPORTED
Post by: JohnnyReb on July 15, 2008, 10:50:55 AM
Take a look at that loser.....we should have let them keep him.

I guess after the invasion of a 100,000 Viet Nam era losers they don't want to encourage another run on their country. I can't help but wonder how much they paid Jimmy to give those losers amnesty.
Title: Re: Canadian Court Orders U.S. Army Deserter To Be DEPORTED
Post by: thundley4 on July 15, 2008, 11:06:05 AM
More than likely he won't get much more than a slap on the wrist.

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In her ruling Monday, Federal Court of Canada Justice Anne Mactavish said Long did not provide enough convincing evidence that he will face irreparable harm if he's sent back to the United States.

She noted that the percentage of American military deserters prosecuted in the U.S. has increased since 2002. However, she said the vast majority were not prosecuted, let alone jailed for desertion.

Between 2002 and 2006, Mactavish said about 94 per cent of U.S. deserters only received "a less than honourable discharge from the military."
Title: Re: Canadian Court Orders U.S. Army Deserter To Be DEPORTED
Post by: Lord Undies on July 15, 2008, 11:15:21 AM
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Canada to deport U.S. war deserter

Side benefit:  Liberals are dizzy and incoherent with rage.

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Mr. Long asserted he would face significant jail time and suffer adverse consequences as a result of a dishonourable discharge from the military.

Yes, Canada is much more reasonable and sophisticated than the USA.  They just want normal people who may have unpleasant things to say about muslim terrorists to "suffer adverse consequences" (see "Mark Steyn")

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The vast majority of American deserters have not been prosecuted for desertion, according to evidence before the court, the judge stated in a four-page decision. About 94 per cent of U.S. deserters from 2002 to 2006 were being dealt with administratively, receiving a less-than-honourable discharge from the military.

Yeah, that'll teach'em.  Give them a liberal resume enhancer.

Title: Re: Canadian Court Orders U.S. Army Deserter To Be DEPORTED
Post by: jtyangel on July 15, 2008, 11:35:23 AM
He's either a liar or an idiot too based on this small snippet:
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Mr. Long concluded the abuse was systemic and condoned by the U.S. administration, Mr. Moss said. After some soul-searching, Mr. Long decided he would not go to Iraq and would not participate or be complicit in what he believed were war crimes, the lawyer said.

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Caroline Christiaens, a lawyer with the federal Department of Justice, told the court that Mr. Long voluntarily joined the army, was not deployed to Iraq and did not apply to be recognized as a conscientious objector while in the United States.

So it basically sounds like he just made this decision one day and didn't even try any other options except to up and leave. Something tells me based on his age at the time that he was also attending college at the same time and being that he's still about as mature as a boy, he buckled under the pressure. Either way, he's weak. Probably a net gain for the military and those who actually serve out their time. Who would want someone so weak and pliable on the battlefield?
Title: Re: Canadian Court Orders U.S. Army Deserter To Be DEPORTED
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on July 15, 2008, 11:38:18 AM
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The vast majority of American deserters have not been prosecuted for desertion, according to evidence before the court, the judge stated in a four-page decision. About 94 per cent of U.S. deserters from 2002 to 2006 were being dealt with administratively, receiving a less-than-honourable discharge from the military.

I'm not sure how accurate that really is currently, I suppose it depends on where they end up, but my experience with the Army at a divisional post over the past year was that virtually all of them who ended up there got court-martialed, their requests for a "Chapter 10" (Administrative discharge with an Other-Than-Honorable characterization in lieu of court-martial) were rarely if ever granted.  In the past couple of years the Army seems to have taken a harder line with these dirtbags rather than let them slime out without jail time (usually get one or two years in jail and a Dishonorable Discharge if it goes to court).  I suspect the data is a bit old or perhaps the other services and non-Forces Command posts have a softer touch with it. 
Title: Re: Canadian Court Orders U.S. Army Deserter To Be DEPORTED
Post by: Bluesuiter-Retired on July 15, 2008, 11:54:51 AM
Anyone wanna bet that if Borat Osama is elected he will pull a Jimmy Karter and pardon those deserters?
Title: Re: Canadian Court Orders U.S. Army Deserter To Be DEPORTED
Post by: CG6468 on July 15, 2008, 01:27:57 PM
One bullet, one shot.
Title: Re: Canadian Court Orders U.S. Army Deserter To Be DEPORTED
Post by: Chris_ on July 15, 2008, 01:33:01 PM
One bullet, one shot.

Aren't there usually 5 shooters in a firing squad?
Title: Re: Canadian Court Orders U.S. Army Deserter To Be DEPORTED
Post by: Airwolf on July 15, 2008, 03:02:10 PM
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The vast majority of American deserters have not been prosecuted for desertion, according to evidence before the court, the judge stated in a four-page decision. About 94 per cent of U.S. deserters from 2002 to 2006 were being dealt with administratively, receiving a less-than-honourable discharge from the military.

I'm not sure how accurate that really is currently, I suppose it depends on where they end up, but my experience with the Army at a divisional post over the past year was that virtually all of them who ended up there got court-martialed, their requests for a "Chapter 10" (Administrative discharge with an Other-Than-Honorable characterization in lieu of court-martial) were rarely if ever granted.  In the past couple of years the Army seems to have taken a harder line with these dirtbags rather than let them slime out without jail time (usually get one or two years in jail and a Dishonorable Discharge if it goes to court).  I suspect the data is a bit old or perhaps the other services and non-Forces Command posts have a softer touch with it. 

Some commanders think it's easier to just get rid of them rather then go through the motions of a trial. The sad thing is that it used to be hard to get a job outside of the military when someone got a less then honorable discharge. The ass that broke into my room 3 days after I got a new stereo got a Less Then Honorable and no jail time.
Title: Re: Canadian Court Orders U.S. Army Deserter To Be DEPORTED
Post by: CactusCarlos on July 15, 2008, 03:03:33 PM

Aren't there usually 5 shooters in a firing squad?

5 shooters, only one with a real bullet. 
Title: Re: Canadian Court Orders U.S. Army Deserter To Be DEPORTED
Post by: Chris_ on July 15, 2008, 03:06:55 PM

Aren't there usually 5 shooters in a firing squad?

5 shooters, only one with a real bullet. 

Well, I guess when ammo is your stock in trade, you don't waste it on piles of shit that can't dodge.