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Title: Being opposed to enemy of the US is UnAmerican!
Post by: dutch508 on February 04, 2015, 06:48:33 AM
No, silly! Not that enemy! The Venzuelians!

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Ken Burch (35,123 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026177950

The Venezuela-bashing on DU is ugly, right-wing and sickening.

Yes, Venezuela is in crisis at the moment(as is most of the world).

Yes, Maduro has made some mistakes.

Yes, they should have diversified their economy more than they did(although that may not be so easy when you are umder external economic siege).

But the huge number of anti-Venezuela spite-threads posted here on DU lately, gloating about Venezuela's current problems and Maduro's shortcomings, and the obsession some DU'ers have with attacking and trying to delegitimize the freely-elected PSUV government is a disgrace to this forum and a betrayal of what we supposedly stand for.

This is not supposed to be a board that pushes for the overthrow of democratic governments.

This is not supposed to be a board where we seek the destabilization of any government in Latin America(especially any government of the left-since we, of all people, ARE supposed to remember that every coup against a left government in Latin American history has produced a bloodsoaked military takeover that brought nothing but agony to the majority of people in the country where the coup was staged).

This is not supposed to be a board that ever tries, in any way at all to push any other countries on the planet to the right and towards the kinds of economic-royalist policies we fight against in THIS country.

This is not supposed to be a board where DU'ers are berated and insulted for the sole offense of defending a good-faith attempt to create a humane alternative to the idea that life should be driven by nothing but greed and arrogance.

And more than anything else, we are supposed to be better people than the kinds of folks who cheer when other people experience hard times.

If people want to offer real, progressive, socially and economically democratic alternatives to what Maduro is doing, that's fine. But it's not cool and it can never be progressive to post threads that just celebrate Venezuela's problems while offering no positive suggestions at all(I.E., the kinds of threads Henry Kissinger and the CIA would have paid people to start about Allende if DU and the Internet had existed in 1973).

Enough with the spite. Enough with the snark. Enough with the enjoyment of another nation's pain already.

And it's not as if those who post such things have any better ideas.


Another socialist government sucks. Who woulda thunk it?

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nikto (2,200 posts)
1. Agreed. And so is the Russia-bashing. You'd think it was rural America, 1955, around here, the way some folks sound.
McCarthy LIVES!
(at least in spirit)


And those enemies!

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pampango (18,840 posts)
15. Is there something even vaguely liberal or progressive about Russia today? Most of us did not 'bash' Russia until it started annexing parts of neighboring countries and oppressing gays and lesbians.


Pango tries to bring out some truth...

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billhicks76 (2,169 posts)
16. CIA Fake Sock Puppet Profiles. Just like their supplanted news articles like the German editor with life ending disease that admitted half his articles were written by the CIA and he just out his name on them. They are just like the redcoats...selfish and not real Americans.


uh... what?

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leftynyc (14,090 posts)
13. I'm betting you don't bitch when the OP is about something the US did - I'm betting you pile on and may even consider the US to be the source of all evil in the world. Because nobody does anything wrong, nobody does anything against democracy other than us. Let's pretend the rest of the world lives lives of rainbows and unicorns because the US isn't perfect.


 O-)
Title: Re: Being opposed to enemy of the US is UnAmerican!
Post by: Carl on February 04, 2015, 09:30:03 AM
An authoritarian,marxist,centrally planned economy that "spread the wealth" until there was none is bankrupt.
Shocking. 
Title: Re: Being opposed to enemy of the US is UnAmerican!
Post by: obumazombie on February 04, 2015, 10:07:40 AM
An authoritarian,marxist,centrally planned economy that "spread the wealth" until there was none is bankrupt.
Shocking.

A decent idea in theory.
In practice all it does is spread misery around somewhat equally.
Title: Re: Being opposed to enemy of the US is UnAmerican!
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 04, 2015, 11:36:29 AM
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And more than anything else, we are supposed to be better people than the kinds of folks who cheer when other people experience hard times.

Hard to believe the big DUmmie could write that one with a straight face.  They have less self-awareness than a coral polyp.
Title: Re: Being opposed to enemy of the US is UnAmerican!
Post by: jukin on February 04, 2015, 12:43:56 PM
Ever notice how leftists always blame outside forces for when there belief system fails?

To the DUchebags, socialism/fascism/communism/etc have failed every time it has been tried. Not only economically but in the 20th century alone your beloved ideology has been responsible for 230 million people's deaths and billions put in misery.

Leftism. It. Just. Doesn't. Work.
Title: Re: Being opposed to enemy of the US is UnAmerican!
Post by: thundley4 on February 04, 2015, 06:16:35 PM
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The $755 Condom Pack Is the Latest Indignity in Venezuela

The impact of reduced access to contraceptives is far graver than frustration over failed hookups. Venezuela has one of South America’s highest rates of HIV infection and teenage pregnancy. Abortion is illegal.
Title: Re: Being opposed to enemy of the US is UnAmerican!
Post by: Ptarmigan on February 04, 2015, 11:29:24 PM
Ever notice how leftists always blame outside forces for when there belief system fails?

To the DUchebags, socialism/fascism/communism/etc have failed every time it has been tried. Not only economically but in the 20th century alone your beloved ideology has been responsible for 230 million people's deaths and billions put in misery.

Leftism. It. Just. Doesn't. Work.

Leftists need strawmen and enemies to survive.